Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally
Russian Ark
Saw Predestination last night. Finally, a good time-travel movie. Probably because the writing was done by the late Robert Heinlein, instead of some Hollywood schmuck. Love me some good science fiction.
We're trying to build a monument to show that we were here
It won't be visible through the air
And there won't be any shade to cool the monument to prove that we were here. - Gene Parsons, 1973
I totally agree Chris, I saw it last night and I wish I hadn't. There was so much wrong with it, I don't know where to begin.
*What college would put up with that teacher's behavior for as much as one day? Cursing at students, humiliating them in front of the whole class, slapping them, calling them "faggots" ... are you kidding me?! It's music school, not boot camp!
*The kid's drumming was great until the teacher asked him to do a specific thing, then he'd sound like it was his first time sitting at a drum kit.
*The three drummers in the class were such shmucks to each other; in the real world most drummers are the best of pals, at least in my experience.
*That story about Jo Jones and Charlie Parker came up at least three times and it was wrong; Jones dropped the cymbal at Parker's feet, he didn't throw it at his head!
*The teacher humiliates the kid by calling a tune the kid's never played... and the chart's not in the book. What band director would sabotage his own concert just to humiliate someone in the band? C'mon!
And that's just a small sampling of all the problems this film had.
I got the impression the director was trying to present the teacher as some kind of an unlikely hero just because he was trying to "push students beyond what's expected of them." Sorry, you don't inspire anybody by being an asshole to them. There's nothing wrong with challenging students, but you've got to give them some semblance of encouragement once in a while.
I liked some of the music, but that's about the only thing positive I can say about it. Three academy awards... really?
Ever seen the movie where Patrick mcGoohan plays a jazz drummer?
I wanna hear Caravan with a drum solo--I enjoyed Whiplash enough, though I thought the portrayal of the music teacher was pretty over the top (never happen). He was more a marine drill instructor.
Thanks Ernie, you stated Whiplash's faults much better than I could have.
no tunes, no dynamics, no nosebone
True.
That movie would have worked better for me if it was set in the late 50s/early 60s.
Alonside the song selections and Buddy Rich worship....don'tcha think?
Another gripe was getting broadsided by a truck, leaving the scene of an accident, and then playing bloody drums for Hitler.
Insane, just totally insane
no tunes, no dynamics, no nosebone
And Teach didn't even remotely appreciate that the kid showed up for class instead of checking into the ER.
I'm not sure setting the film in the '50s or '60s would've made much difference; it sure wouldn't have saved it.
I wonder if the kid knew that his hero, Buddy Rich was almost as much of a bully as his band director.
And what about the romantic subplot that took up about 5 minutes of the movie? Maybe there was more to it that ended up on the cutting room floor, but if you're going to edit it that much, why leave any of it in?
Oh, and then the kid decides to play a long unexpected drum solo and Teach starts conducting it? Would've been funny if it wasn't so stupid.
Oh well, enough; I don't want to even think about that movie anymore. I think it's the worst "musician movie" I've ever seen... and that's saying a lot!
Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?
Whiplash--romantic subplot--actually I found that to be unique--for one, it showed the student's ambition to drop the gf, but also, I thought it was going to be the cliche thing, & they get back together & she nurses his bruised ego, but didn't happen, which I thought was different.
well, of course, reels of film dont go 2 hours
he had to plan for the reel changes and he did it in a very creative way
Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?
Forgot about Rope. I was thinking along the lines of the sweeping shot encompassing a lot of story info/scenery. I remember but cant place some Hitch tracking shot sweeping down a staircase with a huge chandelier. He did do quite a few similar shots but not on the scale of Touch Of Evil. Another film with a fabulous continuos shot was 1998's Snake Eyes. It starts off with a 10 minute plus shot traveling through a casino. The director Brian De Palma did resort to some editing trickery but the shot is amazing. The movie itself is more than decent but could have been a classic, if not for devolving into a formulatic film at the middle .
I think the beginning of Rear Window is all one shot
Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?
Children of Men has two spectacular shots - the scene inside the car when everything goes to hell in an instant (they put a camera on a post in the middle of the car to turn 360 degrees) and of course the climactic battle scene near the end. Just breathless film-making.
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down.'- Bob Newhart
Forrest Gump had a bit with the camara following a windblown leaf. Lots of cgi trickery but the scenery basis of the shot was produced using traditional means.
Also there was a WWII flick, possibly A Bridge To Far, where there was a continuos ariel shot of action in a town with fighting bisected by a canal. The film is to old to have been cgi enhanced, the choreography of men and machine involved in the conflict was fascinatingly complex and executed.
I also remember a D-Day movie with airiel footage of the beach action, again a mighty effort of Hollywood illusion.
The long sweeping shots of currant movies using cgi , while sometimes effective, seem like cheating to me, more like a cartoon, the battle scences of the Lord Of The Rings trilogy come to mind. The old method of assembling a huge cast of extras and the coregraphy of the participants and camara ,if successful ,is an art form IMO.
With the new Winslet film, Insurgent, I wonder how many more they are going to confuse us with. It hit home last week at work when two people thought they were discussing the same film, but no, one was talking about Oblivion (Cruise), the other about Elysium (Damon)
Apart from those three there is also:
Transcendence (Depp)
Divergent
Revenant
Inception (da Caprio)
What amazes me is how often two, or sometimes three films are released in short order with almost identical plots. It seems like ideas float around between studios, one may pass on buying a script only to farm the idea out to another scriptwriter to do a treatment of the same idea.
Exactly, there is not a lot to distinguish Elysium from Oblivion.
How about movies with the same title. A couple years ago there was a movie called The Butler, but supposedly because there had a been a movie in 1912 (or something like that) with the same title, they "had" to tack the author's name onto the title of the picture. I don't think they had to, legally speaking, but some idiot at the studio was probably worried someone might somehow confuse the two movies. (shrug)
With regards to one word movie titles, there's been at least two movies called Crash, with completely different plot lines. One was a David Cronenberg picture (and based on a J.G. Ballard novel) about a woman who becomes sexually fixated on car crashes, while the other was a picture about race relations.
Edit: Wiki says there's be at least five movies titled Crash, and something tells me IMDB would report at several more.
There's at least two movies called Equinox, one a low budget horror movie from the early 70's (starring a young Frank Bonner, several years before he'd become famous as Herb Tarlik on WKRP In Cincinatti), and another that was done in the 90's about twins separated at birth.
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