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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Nardelli View Post
    There is a 12 week lead-in time, but let me ask you a question as a vinyl fan (and to all vinyl fans here at PE): if I switched the vinyl release to the original master( there were 2 different masters created) which included a different track listing and used a different album cover to the original release, would that be something that would interest you or would you rather see the cd release exactly duplicated in vinyl? I'd greatly appreciate your comments because they will guide the format of the release.
    Thanks

    So are the options

    1) original master released as analogue vinyl plus original artwork

    2) cd album digital recording released on vinyl plus cd release artwork

    If so would go for option 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecossejay View Post
    Thanks

    So are the options

    1) original master released as analogue vinyl plus original artwork

    2) cd album digital recording released on vinyl plus cd release artwork

    If so would go for option 1
    I don't think I made myself clear in my original post, there were 2 masters of Syndestructible made at Metropolis and we chose one. They have a different feel and also a different track order. I thought it might be interesting to release the unreleased master and change the cover as well, or use the same cover in different colours to represent a the different master. That might be sacrilege to vinyl collectors, that is why I was looking for feedback here. Thanks for the input, it looks like option one gets it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmotron View Post
    I'll have to abstain.
    While I still have most of my old vinyl because I like the 12" x 12" format for the artwork, I remain traumatized from 20 years of playing the darn things.
    During that time in vinyl purgatory, I fantasized about a new format that would be immune to the clicks, pops, distortions, skips, and the other horrible sounds.
    To this day, when I listen to CDs of certain old records, I still expect to hear some of the skips that always happened on specific spots of various records in my collection.

    I think it is logical for you to put out vinyl because there clearly is a market for it. But I will stick to CDs, thank you very much.
    Modern vinyl recordings sound great, Trustworks was released through vinyl specialist Plane Groovy run by Chris Topham and they produce excellent product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aith01 View Post
    For me personally, I really liked the sound and album artwork on the original Syndestructible CD release, so without knowing what the alternate is like I'd be more keen on keeping the original master for a vinyl release. But that's just me.
    Thank you for your input, it looks like the original master is favourite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Nardelli View Post
    Modern vinyl recordings sound great, Trustworks was released through vinyl specialist Plane Groovy run by Chris Topham and they produce excellent product.
    I do have a curiosity about how new vinyl sounds.
    I was always so serious about my approach to LPs. I tried to store them properly, clean them with all the gizmos, obsess over the turntable adjustments, and record them to a tape so that i could preserve at peak condition.

    I bet this vinyl release will do well; you'll garner more attention to the CD as well through the release of the vinyl.

    (Did I mention that I really love colored and picture vinyl? I always thought is was so cool back in the early 80's. One of my favorites is a translucent blue "Spot the Pigeon" EP by a little band called Genesis.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmotron View Post
    (Did I mention that I really love colored and picture vinyl? I always thought is was so cool back in the early 80's. One of my favorites is a translucent blue "Spot the Pigeon" EP by a little band called Genesis.)
    I have that one too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aith01 View Post
    I have that one too.
    I always liked those 12" EPs that were actually 45 rpm. My feeling was that the fidelity could be engineered to be higher because of that higher speed. In the case of this EP, I felt the tune "Inside and Out" exhibited that higher fidelity. The big finish to that song (the "Out" portion) had lots of keys that along with the rest of the band, challenged one's system to produce that mass of sound. Cool stuff.

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    Remembering my friend and band mate Chris Squire on his birthday today with this message I made for Progzilla radio at the time of his sad passing.

    https://www.facebook.com/steve.narde...5928329979358/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Nardelli View Post
    Remembering my friend and band mate Chris Squire on his birthday today with this message I made for Progzilla radio at the time of his sad passing.

    https://www.facebook.com/steve.narde...5928329979358/
    Nice memories, Steve.
    It is still hard to believe the Big Man is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmotron View Post
    Nice memories, Steve.
    It is still hard to believe the Big Man is gone.
    And not to forget The Syn/Yes guitarist Peter Banks who passed on 7h March 2013.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW7OJWMXAVs

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    Another sad date. Peter had such a unique guitar voice.

    And you wrote "Grounded" when you were 14? Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmotron View Post
    Another sad date. Peter had such a unique guitar voice.

    And you wrote "Grounded" when you were 14? Wow.
    It was the first song I ever remember writing and this version was recorded in 2003 along with this track Illusion which I think is Peter at his best with The Syn.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTgacL-w_xc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Nardelli View Post
    Remembering my friend and band mate Chris Squire on his birthday today with this message I made for Progzilla radio at the time of his sad passing.

    https://www.facebook.com/steve.narde...5928329979358/

    Nice story , did they have to send out for more house white ?

    Have been listening extensively to Syndestructible the last few days , his playing with him high in the mix and his wonderful backing of your vocals are astounding.

    For me it was his best work since the Yes hiatus in 2004 till his sad passing

    Roll on the vinyl version

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecossejay View Post
    Nice story , did they have to send out for more house white ?

    Have been listening extensively to Syndestructible the last few days , his playing with him high in the mix and his wonderful backing of your vocals are astounding.

    For me it was his best work since the Yes hiatus in 2004 till his sad passing

    Roll on the vinyl version
    Chris really thought a lot of Syndestructible and the whole process of writing and creating the album together with Jeremy and Paul Stacey and Gerard Johnson and lots of house white. I agree his bass and vocals are stunning throughout and very well produced high in the mix, his vocals are brilliant throughout; I find his vocals at the finale of Cathedral of Love fantastic. You can guess I'm very proud to have been part of that album, my big regret was we didn't make a follow-up. The vinyl version is in the works with the original cover you will be pleased to know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVTHH1MgAzU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Nardelli View Post
    Chris really thought a lot of Syndestructible and the whole process of writing and creating the album together with Jeremy and Paul Stacey and Gerard Johnson and lots of house white. I agree his bass and vocals are stunning throughout and very well produced high in the mix, his vocals are brilliant throughout; I find his vocals at the finale of Cathedral of Love fantastic. You can guess I'm very proud to have been part of that album, my big regret was we didn't make a follow-up. The vinyl version is in the works with the original cover you will be pleased to know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVTHH1MgAzU
    Absolutely! At least for me, the combo of Chris' vocals and your vocals create a lovely, emotive mix. Cathedral of Love and Breaking Down Walls are some of the finest vocals in my record collection. The two voices compliment and accent each other. I love Chris' bass work; it is beyond inventive, powerful, and clever. But if I could only have one element from The Big Man, it would be that voice. It is the secret sauce in Yes. And his "Fish Out of Water" is so glorious because we get lead and backing vocals at the same time. When i discovered Syndestructible I felt like I had uncovered a hidden gem.

    Hey speaking of vinyl versions, the vinyl of Trustworks is wonderful. I didn't think I would ever enjoy spinning platters again but it was really fun. Thanks for convincing me to try it, Steve!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Nardelli View Post
    Chris really thought a lot of Syndestructible and the whole process of writing and creating the album together with Jeremy and Paul Stacey and Gerard Johnson and lots of house white. I agree his bass and vocals are stunning throughout and very well produced high in the mix, his vocals are brilliant throughout; I find his vocals at the finale of Cathedral of Love fantastic. You can guess I'm very proud to have been part of that album, my big regret was we didn't make a follow-up. The vinyl version is in the works with the original cover you will be pleased to know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVTHH1MgAzU
    So looking forward to the vinyl , any sort of time line ?

    Flying to the UK for a couple of AWR shows next Monday , LP is a great bassist does a nice take of The Fish but so wish it was CS that was up there on stage especially during Heart of the Sunrise and The Fish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecossejay View Post
    So looking forward to the vinyl , any sort of time line ?

    Flying to the UK for a couple of AWR shows next Monday , LP is a great bassist does a nice take of The Fish but so wish it was CS that was up there on stage especially during Heart of the Sunrise and The Fish
    AWR shows are getting great reviews, although nobody can replace Chris of course. In the meantime, Einstein has uncovered the theory of Syndestructible. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

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    I've spoken often in the past about this outstanding documentary concept based on the amazing photographic history of the great Melody Maker rock broadsheet in-house photographer Barrie Wentzell. It's called 'Melody Makers, Rock, Press, Pictures!' and it just won the award for the best music documentary of 2017, very well deserved for the lovely Leslie-Anne Coles and her production team. I am very proud to have been interviewed for this movie and that Grounded is featured. I have only seen promo so far but it looks special and a must for fans of rock music history. Prog is very well featured in it covering the years 1965-1975.

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    How did I miss Trustworks? I just ordered it. Thank you for getting this done, I must have been napping when the announcement came of the release. I'm a huge fan of MS (or so I have been thinking) and they worked on this and released it and I didnt know. I have not heard the Syn music before. I do like the sound of the voice of whom I assume is Steve Nardelli. I am really looking foreward to this one. Weird how it slipped by me. You guys here at PE arent doing your job of reaching into, and shop-vacuming my wallet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodelgoat View Post
    How did I miss Trustworks? I just ordered it. Thank you for getting this done, I must have been napping when the announcement came of the release. I'm a huge fan of MS (or so I have been thinking) and they worked on this and released it and I didnt know. I have not heard the Syn music before. I do like the sound of the voice of whom I assume is Steve Nardelli. I am really looking foreward to this one. Weird how it slipped by me. You guys here at PE arent doing your job of reaching into, and shop-vacuming my wallet.
    Late is better than never!
    It is a fine album. Please let us know your thoughts when you give it some spins.

    And Steve, that Melody Maker film looks very cool. MM was an essential part of my musical education when i was in college. We had to work hard to fine it here in Arizona but it was worth the effort.

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    Gizmotron, I was going to make the same reference to Yodelgoat by quoting a track from Trustworks: 'Never Too Late'.
    As far as the Melody Maker movie is concerned, it's a full length feature film and it's a must for music fans of all rock genres from what I've seen of it. Barrie Wentzell photographed just about every iconic musician and band that passed through London in the 60's and 70's and those photos are the foundation of the film. It's a terrific piece of work based on a unique concept and hugely informative about the London music scene of that era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Nardelli View Post
    Gizmotron, I was going to make the same reference to Yodelgoat by quoting a track from Trustworks: 'Never Too Late'.
    As far as the Melody Maker movie is concerned, it's a full length feature film and it's a must for music fans of all rock genres from what I've seen of it. Barrie Wentzell photographed just about every iconic musician and band that passed through London in the 60's and 70's and those photos are the foundation of the film. It's a terrific piece of work based on a unique concept and hugely informative about the London music scene of that era.
    Brilliant! I just now checked for the lyrics on-line but couldn't find them. (I know they are in the CD booklet.)

    I listened to the promo for the movie and Wentzell said it was an amazing time to be working in the field. He said that the musicians used to come to the MM office for interviews, something that is unheard of today.
    1965-1975. It was a very different time and place; I bet the film will be very entertaining and informative.

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    The Syn's Trustworks will be featured tonight on vinyl music guru Nick Kantona's Dinner Music at Prog House Radio (http://www.houseofprog.com)! I'll be following it up with an interview with Nick on his Saturday show Vinyl Confessions when I guess all will be revealed about what I've been doing.
    https://www.facebook.com/events/1520538407980109/

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    Nick Kantona played the entire one side of vinyl Trustworks on his show and it sounded great.

    I met up with Jeremy Paul Carroll who mastered Trustworks for vinyl and I've asked him to do a 2017 remaster of Syndestructible for vinyl and separately for cd to accompany the live dvd of the concert we did at the Marquee in 2005 to launch the album. It will be a special slice of The Syn history and dedicated to Chris Squire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Nardelli View Post
    Nick Kantona played the entire one side of vinyl Trustworks on his show and it sounded great.

    I met up with Jeremy Paul Carroll who mastered Trustworks for vinyl and I've asked him to do a 2017 remaster of Syndestructible for vinyl and separately for cd to accompany the live dvd of the concert we did at the Marquee in 2005 to launch the album. It will be a special slice of The Syn history and dedicated to Chris Squire.
    Very cool!
    Syndestructible is such a fine album. The vinyl version will garner more fans.

    I look forward to hearing about the new project on Saturday.

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