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    Massive in the USA but not anywhere else?

    On the whole if a band breaks America they usually get some success in other Western territories. However this isnt always the case and The Dave Mathews band is a perfect example! They can't sell a bean in the UK. Many bands in their prime did'nt tour outside of the the USA because they werent such a big drawer outside of it i.e. Van Halen, Journey & Kansas.

    What other artists/bands were massive in the USA but couldnt break out of it?

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    On the whole, Night Ranger's career was similar: they did great in the US and OK in Japan.....thats about it.... I dont think any album or single charted in the UK....."Sister Christian" charted as a mediocre single in Germany.

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    Meatloaf? Just a guess, really. Maybe they loved him in Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    Meatloaf? Just a guess, really. Maybe they loved him in Japan.
    He was a big drawer in the UK & still is!

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    Never knowingly heard a single note of Jimmy Buffett, Hootie and the Blowfish, Dave Matthews Band, Creed.

    Night Ranger I do know 'Sister Christian' but from compilations. In fact most AOR bands when it comes down to it, are largely known for one song here by the public at large. 'Don't Stop Believin', 'More Than A Feeling', 'Keep On Lovin' You' (though 'Can't Fight This Feeling' may be well known), 'Babe'. Foreigner I think are the exception here.

    Of course this goes both ways. Few of the 'Britpop' bands ever meant a light in the US...I think Oasis had a moment.

    The UK was one of the first markets that Meatloaf did take off in.
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    Billy Ray Cyrus

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post
    Never knowingly heard a single note of Jimmy Buffett, Hootie and the Blowfish, Dave Matthews Band, Creed.

    Night Ranger I do know 'Sister Christian' but from compilations. In fact most AOR bands when it comes down to it, are largely known for one song here by the public at large. 'Don't Stop Believin', 'More Than A Feeling', 'Keep On Lovin' You' (though 'Can't Fight This Feeling' may be well known), 'Babe'. Foreigner I think are the exception here.

    Of course this goes both ways. Few of the 'Britpop' bands ever meant a light in the US...I think Oasis had a moment.

    The UK was one of the first markets that Meatloaf did take off in.
    Its like I said in a similar thread about a month or so ago: Some UK bands are too-Anglo to translate well here in the US the same way some US bands are too-American to translate well to European audiences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post
    Never knowingly heard a single note of Jimmy Buffett,
    Of course this goes both ways. Few of the 'Britpop' bands ever meant a light in the US...I think Oasis had a moment.
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    Regarding Buffett, I think he is generally a North American thing, although for some reason he plays Paris France about once per year. I am not aware of him touring much, if at all anywhere else in Europe or the UK. He has toured Austrailia several times and can draw big audiences there.

    Regarding Oasis, yea the "Whats The Story Morning Glory" did pretty well here in the States and had a few hits, but other than that they did not have a lot of success.

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    A lot of those midwest bands... Did REO Speedwagon ever break outside of the U.S.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trurl View Post
    A lot of those midwest bands... Did REO Speedwagon ever break outside of the U.S.?
    Yeah, there were a lot of those heartland bands that I would be surprised if they ever got overseas. Head East, REO, Black Oak, Ozark Mtn Daredevils, etc. I wonder if guys like Mellencamp and Seger ever made much of a dent abroad.
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    I can't imagine the world's a stage for many of the top "country" artists in the states. There can't be that many simple people in the world and for the ones that are, after consuming too much cheap vodka, they couldn't put up with the nonsense. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvyesmusic View Post
    I can't imagine the world's a stage for many of the top "country" artists in the states. There can't be that many simple people in the world and for the ones that are, after consuming too much cheap vodka, they couldn't put up with the nonsense. ;-)
    I've seen Eurovision. The rest of the world has simpletonosity to spare (I made that word up!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus View Post
    Billy Ray Cyrus
    LOL Oh, those UK couples who are all into line dancing probably love him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    Meatloaf? Just a guess, really. Maybe they loved him in Japan.
    that reminded me of this song


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    Quote Originally Posted by trurl View Post
    A lot of those midwest bands... Did REO Speedwagon ever break outside of the U.S.?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post
    Yeah, there were a lot of those heartland bands that I would be surprised if they ever got overseas. Head East, REO, Black Oak, Ozark Mtn Daredevils, etc. I wonder if guys like Mellencamp and Seger ever made much of a dent abroad.
    Outside Ozark, BOA and Head East, most of these Heartland acts (I'll include Southern Rock as well) did have some kind of airplay over here (Continental Europe), and still do on "classic rock" radios (at least in the Benelux and Germany)... I'd suspect thatmost of them could've toured Europe in the late 70's and early 80's and be booked in max 2000 seaters
    Meatloaf, Mellencamp and Seger might even lad doubled that capacity at their height. Meatloaf could still fill that nowadays.
    Let's not forget there were plenty of GIs stationed in that area as well during that Cold War thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    Outside Ozark, BOA and Head East, most of these Heartland acts (I'll include Southern Rock as well) did have some kind of airplay over here (Continental Europe), and still do on "classic rock" radios (at least in the Benelux and Germany)... I'd suspect thatmost of them could've toured Europe in the late 70's and early 80's and be booked in max 2000 seaters
    Meatloaf, Mellencamp and Seger might even lad doubled that capacity at their height. Meatloaf could still fill that nowadays.
    Let's not forget there were plenty of GIs stationed in that area as well during that Cold War thing.
    I subscribe to Classic Rock magazine out of the UK and it seems like U.S. Southern Rock bands are constantly touring over there even today.

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    There were a few UK acts that were far more successful over here than at home. The Outfield come to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trurl View Post
    I've seen Eurovision. The rest of the world has simpletonosity to spare (I made that word up!!)
    Thanks! I missed out on trademarking "three-peat" by just hours but "simpletonosity" is now all mine. Thanks, trurl! ;-) LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    I subscribe to Classic Rock magazine out of the UK and it seems like U.S. Southern Rock bands are constantly touring over there even today.
    Indeed... I'd say that Southern Rock acts have a somwhat devoted fan following in Europe... They'll never play big halls , but can certainly tour the club circuit. Bands like Point Blank, Hatchet, Gov't Mule tour Western Europe if not every year, at least regularly
    Not that I consider Pavlov's Dog as Heartland, Southern or AOR, but they've played Belgium every year at least once over the last decade... But I don't think they've played to a bigger crowd than 500.... unless they played festivals

    Quote Originally Posted by Progbear View Post
    There were a few UK acts that were far more successful over here than at home. The Outfield come to mind.
    I'd say that bands like Savoy Brown and Foghat didn't even try to break at home anymore after a while... but that's because the US was (in the 70's) such a big market, that you could make a fortune alone in the US, not even bothering anywhere else
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post


    I'd say that bands like Savoy Brown and Foghat didn't even try to break at home anymore after a while... but that's because the US was (in the 70's) such a big market, that you could make a fortune alone in the US, not even bothering anywhere else
    Foghat were huge here for a while and remain one of my all time favorite guilty pleasure bands. They have toured here in the midwest U.S. so much that I have seen them more than a dozen times over the years. Savoy Brown did not have nearly as big a profile and never really rose above club status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    Savoy Brown did not have nearly as big a profile and never really rose above club status.
    For a couple of years in the late 60s/70s they did manage to break into the theatre and college circuit. But, yeah, never huge.
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    Rush to an extent.And the whole Neal Peart as one of the greatest drummer ever thing.

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    Renaissance, too, had a big following in the States (and Germany), but were pretty much ignored in the UK until "Northern Lights."
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    Rush to an extent.And the whole Neal Peart as one of the greatest drummer ever thing.
    Rush lost their mojo in the UK after Moving Pictures! Their electro pop albums werent that big & people lost interest. Dont think they toured much outside of the USA in the 80's & 90's?

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    Trans-Siberian Orchestra. They are clearly a North American phenomenon. TSO Head-Honcho Paul O'Neil is trying desperately to break the act in Europe, but they still can only do theaters there (that are not sold out) and they play much more Savatage material and hype up the Savatage connection there since Savatage broke much bigger there than the USA.

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