Aw...., RIP
Aw...., RIP
no tunes, no dynamics, no nosebone
Very sorry to hear about Keith Gemmell; he and Howard Werth were a formidable combination.
Robbie Krieger says there were never any rehearsals with Werth, they "just talked with him one day." And note that this was not right after Morrison's death, but almost two years later, after the Doors had put out two relative flop albums as a trio and had pretty much run out of steam.
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Jac Holzman was apparently the one who wanted Werth fronting the Doors to happen. He was a huge fan of Audience and was apparently crushed that House on the Hill and Lunch weren’t bigger hits. He also claimed a similarity in Werth’s voice to Jim Morrison’s, which I’m afraid I do not hear at all!
But...hey. Couldn’t have been any worse than Full Circle, am I right?
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Played both FFF and HotH last night.
Had never heard of this story, especially The Doors moving to the UK
Other Voices was a rather good album... I can see this being a classic Doors album if Jimbo had sung the songs himself
Lunch: there IS something wrong with that album... can't put my finger on it, but it just doesn't click.
HotH: difficult to believe this was a miss, and even more FFF, which I find even better
Well, TFC might've been an OK album if it hadn't bear the Doors name ... It's just that people expect LA Woman or Strange Days from a Doors album.But...hey. Couldn’t have been any worse than Full Circle, am I right?
I mean if it had been done by dozens of other band, it would've been thought as "on par" with the rest of their discography
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Audience must stick to the formula, Black Sabbath horror kitsch. Priestess, Murderess, Satan devours... the humorless audience just can't take a fun record in the vein of Kevin Ayers, The Bonzos and The Kinks.
Seven Sore Bruises, Barracuda Dan and the incredible speed-feast Trombone Gulch. 'Sorry no video' from the up-loader which is fine as I can visualize the roadrunner and coyote disappearing over the desert hill during the fade-out.
Hula Girl, well I won't describe what I visualize with that 'toon' but I'm certainly in 'Gay Paris' with my striped t-shirt and beret during Party Games. I could blame the song for my latent appreciation of the French accordion sound. I'm back in London with Buy me an Island, how many times have I just washed my car when the first spots of rain fall?
Then there's the 'cuda been contenders' Stand By The Door, Thunder and Lightning and the almost great In Accord (I could have done without the acoustic ending and Werth's slighty disturbing voice) to make the whole thing (cover included) an even more essential album than Odyssey and Oracle.
Bummer, I've just seen that my Virgin Cd doesn't have the excellent Elixir of Youth. Even more reason to get the Esoteric version, folks.
Well, Howard Werth seems to have a different recollection...
This link leads to an interview with Werth where he talks at length about the rehearsals with the Ex Doors in London...
http://newdoorstalk.proboards.com/th...s-disband-1973
I'll tell you what was wrong with it - no Keith Gemmell. At that point, Keith had left to join Sammy, a band featuring Mick Underwood(ex-Quatermass!)and Geoff Sharkey(ex-Ginhouse)among others. Audience enlisted a couple of session players(Bobby Keys and Jim Price IIRC). Decent players, but they were just playing parts and didn't display the passion that Gemmell and few others(Dave Jackson, Mel Collins)could bring. That's why Lunch is so flat.
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The house on the hill is a great album. Got it on cd about 3 years ago.
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I don’t find it quite as horrid as its reputation but it is definitely the most...un-good of their LPs. As you say, just doesn’t click. And as others have said, the dearth of Keith Gemmell probably had something to do with that. Nothing wrong with Bobby Keys, obviously, but Gemmell brought something to the table. For Bobby, it was just another session gig.
Audience were kind of a hard sell, as they weren’t really comparable to any other band. Except maybe Family, also a hard sell. I don’t think FFF was ever released in the States, but you’re right; it might be their best album.HotH: difficult to believe this was a miss, and even more FFF, which I find even better
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^ It does seem odd to me that The House on the Hill didn't even chart in America, as I used to hear it on the radio a lot. The title track, "Nancy," and "Jackdaw" all got airplay in my neck of the woods.
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Lunch was the least of Audience's rekkids, with that I'd agree, but it still has a lot that I like, primarily "In Accord" and "Buy Me An Island". To me it just seems more like the Howard Werth show . . . . . . . not bad, but Audience was better when Gemmell was around and the compositions were spread around a bit.
I'm saddened to hear about Gemmell. RIP
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You said it better than I could have, sir !!
Yup, it's not horrible... I guess a fair bit of bands would've been happy to release a record like Lunch, much like TFC or Other Voices from The Doors weren't nearly as bad as their rep.
The only gripe I have with FFF is Ebony Variations (I don't detest it), which screws its homogeneity and cohesiveness. I mean it really has nothing to do in there (IMHO and YMMV, of course).Audience were kind of a hard sell, as they weren’t really comparable to any other band. Except maybe Family, also a hard sell. I don’t think FFF was ever released in the States, but you’re right; it might be their best album.
Raviole did that a bit less on HotH, but it's passable, because I like it.
But altogether, I think the wild ecstatic mood is stronger in FFF
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.
Okay, the "Island" clip is definitely live vox over the studio backing track. It's wonderful though, if you love that song and album. Sadly there seems to be nothing else from whatever that show was on Youtube (or any live Audience at all, pre-reunion).
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