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    Firth of Fifth - do you ever tire of hearing it?

    As it is the greatest prog tune of all time, I say no.

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    that's a resounding NO from this end.

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    No, because I don't play it to death, and listen to lots of other 'greatest prog tunes of all time'

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    No because i don't play it . Only listen to it on the medleys cos it cuts out all the crap & the band only play the guitAr solo !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus View Post
    No because i don't play it . Only listen to it on the medleys cos its cuts out all the crap & the band only play the guitAr solo !
    I don't tire of hearing Firth Of Fifth. In fact, I'm listening to SEBTP for the second day in a row on headphones. I do tire of Rufus bashing Phil through. FOF, as with most of the Genesis catalog, is a masterpiece that shouldn't be reduced to a medley.

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    I think it's a great song but it's certainly not my favorite Genesis song nor one I think is some fantastic Prog anthem.

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    There are times that I tire of even the greatest songs. Those are times when I need to listen to something new, or listen to some differnt genres other than Prog. Usually that means more "earthy" music, like Blues, Country, RNB, Classic Rock, Folk.

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    I agree with Werbinox - my message is don't over-play your favourites because one day it will spoil them for you. That's why I have a thousand albums (admittedly a tiny number compared to many of you).

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    I guess so. It's a track I usually skip in favor of whatever comes next on whichever album I'm listening to.
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    Oddly enough... no, I don't. I think I've listened to this track 100 times and I never get sick of it. The "Seconds Out" version in particular is my favorite.

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    I don't know that I call it "the greatest prog tune of all time," but it's definitely one of my faves. And Mr. Hackett and his band did a fantastic rendition of it this past Saturday - complete with full piano intro.
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    Don't play ito ften enough to get tired of it.

    Excellent version played at the gig in Oakville last Wed.

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    I don't overplay it, but yes, I'm getting there.

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    No, never. I play SEBTP seldom, once in a year maybe.

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    Went dead tired of it many, many years ago. There are other things by Genesis I don't seem to get tired of, though - still I no longer consider myself anywhere near an all-out fan on the band.
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    I'm pretty much worn out by all things Genesis at this point. The other day, I got half way through Selling England before turning it off and finding something else to listen to. Not that it isn't a great piece, of course, there's just too much out there to discover to dwell on things I've heard hundreds of times before.

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    Truth be told, I'm a little burned on Genesis in general. In fact, all the Big 5 are collecting dust in my collection these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    Truth be told, I'm a little burned on Genesis in general. In fact, all the Big 5 are collecting dust in my collection these days.

    Gabe Genesis were never in the big 5 !

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    I'm still moved by the Seconds Out version. The keyboard solo and guitar solo. Some of the best drumming by Phil ever.

    Those two climatic moments in the guitar solo are still sublime, no matter how many times I've listened to it. I have to be in the right frame of mind and focused though.

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    I've seen so many lists/debates over who the Big 5 were over the years here. I always figured they were. Besides Yes, they're the most talked about band on PE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    I've seen so many lists/debates over who the Big 5 were over the years here. I always figured they were. Besides Yes, they're the most talked about band on PE.

    I agree but I think that's mostly due to the controversy of Selling Out Prog to the Pound & becoming an 80's ballad band!
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    This is destined to be an unpopular opinion, but for me, the big climax of that tune is the full band, multi-keyboard recapitulation of the piano intro. I think that's one of THE great moments out of the whole Genesis catalog! But what follows is kind of a letdown to me, kinda like last 40 minutes or so of Lord of the Rings, i.e. anticlimactic. I know most everybody loves that guitar solo that follows, but I'm pretty indifferent to it. Afaic, the tune had already climaxed and it's kind of like continuing to watch a porn video after you've already had an orgasm... what's the point?! Obviously, ymmv.

    Anyway, I don't listen to much Genesis anymore. I love everything from Foxtrot through W&W, but it's all so permanently etched in my brain that I don't need to listen to it, though I do about once or twice a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Pride View Post
    the full band, multi-keyboard recapitulation of the piano intro
    It's not REALLY full-band, though... Hackett shows up to trill two notes during one section and then goes back to the hallway for a smoke.

    Don't get me wrong, I love that section too... it's just that both those sections go together in a perfect musical marriage.

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    I tire of this one pretty easily. Genesis is my favorite band and SEBtP is probably my favorite record by them, but it's rare that I don't skip over Firth. Songs with less predictable structures seem to age better for me; the "proggy foreshadowing/book-ending" technique is quite effective, but gets tiresome. Also, the drumming/shakers in the quiet moments are distracting; probably the only example of Phil's drumming coming up short, IMHO. The live versions with Phil + Chester have more punch (and I enjoy the sound of Tony's RMI piano [unlike Tony]).

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    I'm in the camp where I've learned not to overplay my favorites. Possibly this and Cinema Show are my favorites on my favorite album, but only play it about once a year these days. There is a beauty there that is more about feeling than chops, and overplaying music can lose the feeling, and all one then has left is the chops.

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