Presence was (I guess) maybe the 2nd slowest and maybe 2nd worst selling record LZ put out. I don't really consider it to be a flop in every way possible, (it sold more than at least 90% of the stuff I've ever bought) but a fair number of people who bought other LZ records and more than a few critics gave this one a bum rap... that's why I stuck it in. Should have put in some kind of a qualifier for those who might want to debate about various definitions of 'flop', (sorry about that).
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