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    New GG 5-CD live/boot/demo/etc box Memories of Old Days

    Sorry if this has already been discussed here. If so, I somehow missed it! http://www.imwan.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=84287

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    Betcha thought they hadn't totally scraped the barrel...

    Memories of Old Days is a compendium of curios, bootlegs, live tracks, rehearsals and demos across 5 CDs.
    Released 07-29-2013

    Disc: 1
    1. Just the Same (Studio Excerpt - Instrumental Backing Track)
    2. On Reflection (Studios Excerpt - Instrumental Clavinet Composing/Improvising)
    3. Free Hand (Studios Excerpt - Piano Composing/Improvising)
    4. Time to Kill (Studio Excerpt - Instrumental Backing Track)
    5. Mobile (Studio Excerpt - Instrumental Violins)
    6. On Reflection (Live - White Plains, New York 1975)
    7. Proclamation (Live - White Plains, New York 1975)
    8. Free Hand (Live - California 1975)
    9. Interview (Rehearsal)
    10. Another Show (Instrumental Hammond Hi Notes)
    11. Empty City (Instrumental Acoustic Guitar)
    12. Empty City (Instrumental String Machine)
    13. Timing (Rehearsal)
    14. I Lost My Head (Composing 2)
    15. I Lost My Head (Rehearsal)
    16. Peel the Paint/I Lost My Head (Live in Sweden)

    Disc: 2
    1. As Old As You're Young (Pinewood Tour Rehearsals 1977)
    2. The Face - Plain Truth (Pinewood Tour Rehearsals 1977)
    3. For Nobody (Pinewood Tour Rehearsals 1977)
    4. Free Hand (Pinewood Tour Rehearsals 1977)
    5. Funny Ways (Pinewood Tour Rehearsals 1977)
    6. Just the Same/Playing the Game (Pinewood Tour Rehearsals 1977)
    7. Memories of Old Days (Pinewood Tour Rehearsals 1977)
    8. On Reflection (Pinewood Tour Rehearsals 1977)
    9. The Runaway/Experience (Pinewood Tour Rehearsals 1977)
    10. So Sincere (Pinewood Tour Rehearsals 1977)
    11. Winning (Pinewood Tour Rehearsals 1977)

    Disc: 3
    1. Memories of Old Days (Guitar) (Rehearsals & Studio Excerpts)
    2. I'm Turning Around (Rehearsal) (Rehearsals & Studio Excerpts)
    3. Betcha Thought We Couldn't Do It (Guitar) (Rehearsals & Studio Excerpts)
    4. Betcha Thought We Couldn't Do It (Moog Solo 1) (Rehearsals & Studio Excerpts)
    5. Mountain Time (Piano) (Rehearsals & Studio Excerpts)
    6. Winning (Rehearsal) (Rehearsals & Studio Excerpts)
    7. Opening (Live in Cleveland, Ohio)
    8. Two Weeks in Spain (Live in Cleveland, Ohio)
    9. Free Hand (Live in Cleveland, Ohio)
    10. On Reflection (Live in Cleveland, Ohio)
    11. I'm Turning Around (Live in Cleveland, Ohio)
    12. Playing the Game (Live in Cleveland, Ohio)
    13. Memories of Old Days (Live in Cleveland, Ohio)
    14. Betcha Thought We Couldn't Do It (Live in Cleveland, Ohio)
    15. Funny Ways (Live in Cleveland, Ohio)
    16. The Face (Live in Cleveland, Ohio)
    17. For Nobody (Live in Cleveland, Ohio)

    Disc: 4
    1. Two Weeks in Spain (BBC Sight & Sound in Concert)
    2. Free Hand (BBC Sight & Sound in Concert)
    3. On Reflection (BBC Sight & Sound in Concert)
    4. I'm Turning Around (BBC Sight & Sound in Concert)
    5. Just The Same (BBC Sight & Sound in Concert)
    6. Playing The Game (BBC Sight & Sound in Concert)
    7. Memories of Old Days (BBC Sight & Sound in Concert)
    8. Betcha Thought We Couldn't Do It (BBC Sight & Sound in Concert)
    9. Funny Ways (BBC Sight & Sound in Concert)
    10. For Nobody (BBC Sight & Sound in Concert)
    11. Mountain Time (BBC Sight & Sound in Concert)
    12. Words from the Wise (Demo)
    13. Thank You (Demo)
    14. Spooky Boogie (Demo)
    15. Little Brown Bag (Demo)
    16. It's Only Goodbye (Demo)

    Disc: 5
    1. All Through the Night (Rehearsal)
    2. It's Not Imagination (Rehearsal)
    3. Convenience (Clean and Easy) (Live - New Haven, CT 1980)
    4. All Through the Night (Live - New Haven, CT 1980)
    5. Free Hand (Live - New Haven, CT 1980)
    6. Knots (Live - New Haven, CT 1980)
    7. Playing the Game (Live - New Haven, CT 1980)
    8. Giant for a Day (Live - New Haven, CT 1980)
    9. Inside Out (Live - New Haven, CT 1980)
    10. It's Not Imagination (Live - Roxy, CA 1980)
    11. Underground (Live - Roxy, CA 1980)
    12. Five Man Drum Bash (Live - Roxy, CA 1980)
    13. Band Introductions (Live - Roxy, CA 1980)
    14. For Nobody (Live - Roxy, CA 1980)
    15. The Advent of Panurge (Live - Roxy, CA 1980)
    16. Number One (Live - Roxy, CA 1980)
    Last edited by unclemeat; 07-02-2013 at 06:46 AM.

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    Looks pretty cool some new nuggets. But bummer that sight and sound is being put out again. Is the DVD out of print even?
    The pinewood rehearsals were also on scraping the barrel but on the data disc so at least having it on cd will be a bit unique.

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    I'm not a GG expert, but it looks like most of this has been previously released... Out of the fire, or the Sight and Sound DVD, Scraping the Barrel (all the demos / rehearsals, although here they are all in lossless format), and on official bootlegs : The last steps (= disc 5 ? with "Memories of old days" replaced by two demos found on STB), The missing face (Cleveland 1977, = disc 3, tr. 7-17 ?), Endless Life (disc 1, tr. 6-7 ?), Artistically Cryme (disc 1, tr. 16 ?)

    What is new (to me at least):

    disc 1
    8. Free Hand (Live - California 1975)

    disc 3 :
    3. Betcha Thought We Couldn't Do It (Guitar) (Rehearsals & Studio Excerpts)
    4. Betcha Thought We Couldn't Do It (Moog Solo 1) (Rehearsals & Studio Excerpts)
    Last edited by unclemeat; 07-02-2013 at 07:24 AM.

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    Some of this looks like it came off the Alucard box sets Under Construction and Scrapping the Barrel, plus I have those 5.1 mixes I never listen too, so pass, I have enough GG for a lifetime or two!

    if only that King Alfred's College CD had better sound quality...
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    I don't have any of the other compilations so will get this (good price too).

    One question - my favourite song by them (maybe my favourite prog track ever) is 'His Last Voyage'. Did they ever do this live?

    Does it matter that this waste of time is what makes a life for you?

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    passssss... Got everything I need from them
    my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.

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    I'm a sucker for these things I will be getting this for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    passssss... Got everything I need from them
    Quote Originally Posted by old school View Post
    I'm a sucker for these things I will be getting this for sure.
    I'm somewhere in between these two viewpoints. :P I really don't need this, but it's not a bad price for a 5-disc box. I've pre-ordered it on amazon for now (with free shipping), so I've got time to change my mind in the meantime.
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    I once bought Scrapping the Barrell, and was pretty much disappointed. It's like selling smells from a kitchen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregory View Post
    I once bought Scrapping the Barrell, and was pretty much disappointed. It's like selling smells from a kitchen.
    LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mozo-pg View Post
    GG deserves unique reverence only allotted to Nobel prize winners. I have everything but I think, in the case, I may need more.
    My thinking exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregory View Post
    I once bought Scrapping the Barrell, and was pretty much disappointed. It's like selling smells from a kitchen.
    Leaving aside the music, it had the most butt-ugly cover I've seen. Looks like someone licking a disgusting sore.

    Does it matter that this waste of time is what makes a life for you?

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    While loosely on the subject, I don't have King Alfred's College Winchester in my collection. Do I need it? Y/N
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progatron View Post
    While loosely on the subject, I don't have King Alfred's College Winchester in my collection. Do I need it? Y/N
    If you can tolerate the wretched sound quality, then "Y". It includes some unique material--note that "Peel Off the Paint" is not the same as "Peel the Paint," but an otherwise unreleased song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Triscuits View Post
    If you can tolerate the wretched sound quality, then "Y". It includes some unique material--note that "Peel Off the Paint" is not the same as "Peel the Paint," but an otherwise unreleased song.
    Interesting... perhaps I should sample some of it online before making a decision, especially since I've already pre-ordered this new 5-CD set. I really am approaching the point where I have all the GG I need.
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    Got this (in a store) today... Haven't listened to it yet (looking forward to it - I don't have "Scraping The Barrel" or most of the live recordings used to compile it), but I was surprised to read in the liner notes that in 1980, after Minnear had decided to stop, Green, Weathers and Ray Shulman had considered asking Eddie Jobson to replace him. Another "what if... ?". Of course Gary Green went on to play on Jobson's first solo album but a group with these four guys would have been something - potentially...

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclemeat View Post
    Betcha thought they hadn't totally scraped the barrel...


    I have "Under Construction" and though it was fascinating to listen to a couple of times, I haven't revisited it in years; it's for the completist only (and I never bothered with "Scraping the Barrel"). I'm guessing I'd feel the same about this one.

    The one GG (re)release I'm still waiting for is "Civilian." Can't find it anywhere except as a "two-fer" with Playing The Fool, which I've already bought three versions of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    Got this (in a store) today... Haven't listened to it yet (looking forward to it - I don't have "Scraping The Barrel" or most of the live recordings used to compile it), but I was surprised to read in the liner notes that in 1980, after Minnear had decided to stop, Green, Weathers and Ray Shulman had considered asking Eddie Jobson to replace him. Another "what if... ?". Of course Gary Green went on to play on Jobson's first solo album but a group with these four guys would have been something - potentially...
    That is interesting, and helps to explain how the heck Jobson and Green even knew each other back then.

    But I think it would have failed for the same reason Jobson in Yes didn't work. The creative nucleus of GG was always the Shulmans and I doubt Jobson would have been happy with being just a contributor.

    Still, the thought of Eddie and Ray digging into some violin duets would have been suh-weeeeet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Pride View Post


    The one GG (re)release I'm still waiting for is "Civilian." Can't find it anywhere except as a "two-fer" with Playing The Fool, which I've already bought three versions of.
    There's another very inexpensive reissue that came out, I Lost My Head, that has remastered versions of Civilian and GFAD

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00886184A/
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrybrick View Post
    There's another very inexpensive reissue that came out, I Lost My Head, that has remastered versions of Civilian and GFAD

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00886184A/
    Good to know; thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulrus View Post
    But I think it would have failed for the same reason Jobson in Yes didn't work. The creative nucleus of GG was always the Shulmans and I doubt Jobson would have been happy with being just a contributor.
    I don't agree with this assessment. Kerry Minnear and Ray Shulman were the main composers (Derek Shulman was largely a lyricist and just that, and he only became that once older brother Phil had left), and although Minnear didn't contribute as much as before towards the end, his were big shoes to fill, compositionally. But perhaps you're right and they were interested in Jobson as a performer rather than a composer, especially since his composing style wasn't particularly GG-ish, let alone Minnear-ish. Anyway this is pure speculation on something that never happened - but hey, that's exactly the kind of stuff that fills about 75% of PE discussions.

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    One word of warning about I lost my head is that it cuts of the little ending of the album that spliced words together to say that's all there is. It also drops heroes no more which was on some CDs of civilian. Despite that I think it is the best place to get all the other albums in one place.

    Quote Originally Posted by No Pride View Post
    Good to know; thanks!
    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrybrick View Post
    There's another very inexpensive reissue that came out, I Lost My Head, that has remastered versions of Civilian and GFAD

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00886184A/

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