King Crimson News

**SunshipVoyager1976** · 08-23-2021

Pretty sure most of her videos are filmed at different spots on the Fripp property. ^

**Derk** · 08-23-2021

Definitely you can see some of the garden through the windows and the river/lake has been shown in Roberts diary posts.

The rooms also look similar in decor to other rooms they have shown in their videos

**Dave (in MA)** · 08-23-2021

So you can get a Lost in Space elevator for your house now?
Anybody who shows that to my wife is a dead man.

**polmico** · 08-24-2021

"Red" is up:
https://www.dgmlive.com/news/red-dow...t-augustine-fl

If you're saying, "Red? I've got 30 some versions of it already." Do check this one out. They ditched that weird martial drum feel they used back in the early septet/octet days, and Stacey adds some pretty cool keyboard flourishes. Definitely re-invigorates the tune.

**Sturgeon's Lawyer** · 08-24-2021

You're right. I've been wishing they'd drop it from the setlist I've heard it so many times ...but this is magical.

**Dave (in MA)** · 08-24-2021

Has anyone received the 2021 Elements box yet?

**kenticus** · 08-24-2021

Originally Posted by polmico

"Red" is up:
https://www.dgmlive.com/news/red-dow...t-augustine-fl

If you're saying, "Red? I've got 30 some versions of it already." Do check this one out. They ditched that weird martial drum feel they used back in the early septet/octet days, and Stacey adds some pretty cool keyboard flourishes. Definitely re-invigorates the tune.

They’d released one from Mexico 2019 with this same arrangement in 2019! Only difference is the tempo feels faster on the 2021 and the piano might be mixed a bit better

**polmico** · 08-24-2021

^Yep! I’ve got that one, too. Makes me think what a very audience friendly model KC have. Not too many bands give away entire live albums during their tours.

**DrGoon** · 08-26-2021

Originally Posted by Dave (in MA)

So you can get a Lost in Space elevator for your house now?
Anybody who shows that to my wife is a dead man.

A mere $30K+:

https://www.vacuumelevators.com/

**DrGoon** · 08-26-2021

Originally Posted by Dave (in MA)

Has anyone received the 2021 Elements box yet?

I picked it up off merch at the start of the tour. I did get my Fripp's Ma Bitch T shirt the other day, so there's a chance that some could be in the audience for the last few shows.

**Dave (in MA)** · 08-26-2021

DGM put out an e-mail that said the NYC show on Sept. 9th has been relocated to a new venue, but ticketholders have to go through the process of re-buying tickets.

**jamesmanzi** · 08-26-2021

Originally Posted by Dave (in MA)

DGM put out an e-mail that said the NYC show on Sept. 9th has been relocated to a new venue, but ticketholders have to go through the process of re-buying tickets.

Yes, and AXS is doing a shitty job of sending out the presale password to OG venue ticket holders. I had to get the pw from someone on Facebook.

**ChrisNY** · 08-26-2021

Originally Posted by jamesmanzi

Yes, and AXS is doing a shitty job of sending out the presale password to OG venue ticket holders. I had to get the pw from someone on Facebook.

Sent you a PM. I also haven't received any emails regarding my tickets. Also, I had to go into the AXS app and request a refund even though it was supposedly going to automatically be processed. It said that the cutoff for refund request was 8/27.

-Chris

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**Guitarplyrjvb** · 08-26-2021

Here's a nice interview with Tony Levin in a local Rochester NY publication:

https://www.rochestercitynewspaper.c...wsi15aV-NFQXhQ

**proggy_jazzer** · 08-26-2021

...and here's one with PM from Ravinia's online pub:

https://backstage.ravinia.org/posts/...e-crimson-king

**Aggie87** · 08-27-2021

Originally Posted by proggy_jazzer

...and here's one with PM from Ravinia's online pub:

https://backstage.ravinia.org/posts/...e-crimson-king

I enjoyed this interview with Pat, but found it interesting that they described Levin like this: "Bassist Tony Levin, who has been part of every Crimson incarnation since 1981—save the time period when the band reformed and he had a prior tour commitment—was also back"

Levin was gone for about 4 years, during the Double Duo timeframe. Is this saying that he was on tour for four years, and that's the only reason he wasn't part of that lineup? That's interesting if so, suggesting there could've been a 5 man lineup creating those albums instead, with both Levin & Gunn (but minus Bruford from the previous 6 man lineup).

I assume it's just an incorrect statement otherwise.

**Dave (in MA)** · 08-27-2021

At the shows where the CGT is the opener, will the Trio have any special guests?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ssb_sBzwCU

**pb2015** · 08-27-2021

Originally Posted by Aggie87

I enjoyed this interview with Pat, but found it interesting that they described Levin like this: "Bassist Tony Levin, who has been part of every Crimson incarnation since 1981—save the time period when the band reformed and he had a prior tour commitment—was also back"

Levin was gone for about 4 years, during the Double Duo timeframe. Is this saying that he was on tour for four years, and that's the only reason he wasn't part of that lineup? That's interesting if so, suggesting there could've been a 5 man lineup creating those albums instead, with both Levin & Gunn (but minus Bruford from the previous 6 man lineup).

I assume it's just an incorrect statement otherwise.

Tony Levin and some other big name players were on tour with Seal when the TCoL band started rehearsing in 1999. Unluckily for Levin, Seal had to let him and the rest of the band go partway through the tour because of low ticket sales.

From what I remember of Fripp's comments from those days, he didn't have anything against Levin but thought that incarnation of KC was ok without him. I remember seeing Levin's band at Martyrs in Chicago in 2000 and Levin said, "King Crimson is on tour now in Europe. Robert tells me I'm still in the band.."

**calyx** · 08-27-2021

Originally Posted by Aggie87

I enjoyed this interview with Pat, but found it interesting that they described Levin like this: "Bassist Tony Levin, who has been part of every Crimson incarnation since 1981—save the time period when the band reformed and he had a prior tour commitment—was also back"

Levin was gone for about 4 years, during the Double Duo timeframe. Is this saying that he was on tour for four years, and that's the only reason he wasn't part of that lineup? That's interesting if so, suggesting there could've been a 5 man lineup creating those albums instead, with both Levin & Gunn (but minus Bruford from the previous 6 man lineup).

I assume it's just an incorrect statement otherwise.

The ProjeKcts phase came to an end in the spring of 1999. At that point the idea was for the double-trio to be resurrected. But Fripp and Bruford talked about the proposed approach and Fripp was insistent that electronic drums should be used prominently. Bruford was going in the opposite direction and wasn't interested. That's when he left (not, as both Fripp and Bruford have often since said, after the failed Nashville double-trio writing sessions in 1997). At the same time, Levin was consulted and he had committed to touring with Seal. So he was going to be unavailable during the second half of 1999. In the end, I seem to remember that tour was cancelled and Levin would actually have been available, but in the meantime Fripp had the vision of the "double-duo" and taken firm steps in that direction, so it was too late for Levin to join that. So, no, he didn't have four years of touring planned, but he couldn't be around when the new line-up came into being, so he ended up missing that whole phase, only returning in 2004, after Trey Gunn had left.