Complex Jazz with large orchestras mainly from 60s & 70s playlist

[MIO Records]

Hello,

I really love the melting point between genres, in this case Jazz and Classical music.

This is a playlist I did with quite few albums:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5e...cc8750251b40ae

Would be very happy to get more recommendations I might have missed or don't know.

Thanks,

>M

[Mr.Krautman]

Not mentioned in your list (or I missed it):

Alice Coltrane : "Lord of Lords" (1972)

Centipede: Septober Energy" (1971)

[Dave (in MA)]

What's your cutoff for #pieces between not-large and large?

Ian Carr Double Quintet – Solar Session
1 Element 1 1:36
2 Bedrock Deadlock 4:42
3 Spirit Level 7:32
4 Torso 4:06
5 Snakehips’ Dream 8:42

Trumpet, Flugelhorn – Harold Beckett*, Ian Carr
Electric Piano, Oboe – Karl Jenkins
Guitar – Chris Spedding
Drums – John Marshall
Bass – Jeff Clyne
Bass Guitar – Ron Matthewson*
Congas – Chris Karan
Synthesizer – Keith Winter
Tenor Saxophone, Bass Clarinet – Tony Roberts
Tenor Saxophone, Soprano Saxophone – Brian Smith

[flowerking]

May not fit in with the rest of the music but you might add some Zappa. In the 60s, some of his Mothers of Invention material was avant-garde classical and some was jazz, and then in 1972 he released two pretty tremendous jazz albums, Grand Wazoo and Waka/Jawaka. If nothing else, check out For Calvin on Grand Wazoo, its a unique blend of weirdness, jazz and neo-classical.

[mellotron storm]

I'm fond of Toshiyuki Miyama & The New Herds's "Yamataifu" from '72.

[Zeuhlmate]

This is complex, its from 2021 and there is no large orchestra (if any) allthough it sounds like ... sign of the times?

[Baribrotzer]

Mike Westbrook's The Cortege, London Bridge is Broken Down and On Duke's Birthday

[sphinx]

Claus Ogerman / Michael Brecker : Cityscape
(OK, it's from 1982, but still in a very classic vein…)

[MIO Records]

Not mentioned in your list (or I missed it):

Alice Coltrane : "Lord of Lords" (1972)

Centipede: Septober Energy" (1971)

Good ones! Centipede is not on Spotify, got the CD, didn't hear it many years ;-)

[MIO Records]

What's your cutoff for #pieces between not-large and large?

Ian Carr Double Quintet – Solar Session
1 Element 1 1:36
2 Bedrock Deadlock 4:42
3 Spirit Level 7:32
4 Torso 4:06
5 Snakehips’ Dream 8:42

Trumpet, Flugelhorn – Harold Beckett*, Ian Carr
Electric Piano, Oboe – Karl Jenkins
Guitar – Chris Spedding
Drums – John Marshall
Bass – Jeff Clyne
Bass Guitar – Ron Matthewson*
Congas – Chris Karan
Synthesizer – Keith Winter
Tenor Saxophone, Bass Clarinet – Tony Roberts
Tenor Saxophone, Soprano Saxophone – Brian Smith

good question, i guess augmented with external large orchestra but then all those jazz with strings albums might jump in ;-)
Ian Carr Double Quintet - not on Spotify :-(

[MIO Records]

May not fit in with the rest of the music but you might add some Zappa. In the 60s, some of his Mothers of Invention material was avant-garde classical and some was jazz, and then in 1972 he released two pretty tremendous jazz albums, Grand Wazoo and Waka/Jawaka. If nothing else, check out For Calvin on Grand Wazoo, its a unique blend of weirdness, jazz and neo-classical.

Love the Zappa, added both. Thanks!

[MIO Records]

I'm fond of Toshiyuki Miyama & The New Herds's "Yamataifu" from '72.

Agreed, i love Japanese 70s Jazz and mostly Three Blind Mice label, paid a fortune one few CDs on this label.

[MIO Records]

Claus Ogerman / Michael Brecker : Cityscape
(OK, it's from 1982, but still in a very classic vein…)

Good one! Didn't hear it many years. Added, thanks.

[MIO Records]

This is complex, its from 2021 and there is no large orchestra (if any) allthough it sounds like ... sign of the times?

i don't know this one, will listen to it. Thanks

[MIO Records]

Mike Westbrook's The Cortege, London Bridge is Broken Down and On Duke's Birthday

Totally with you on those two. Not on Spotify :-(

[Splicer]

This is complex, its from 2021 and there is no large orchestra (if any) allthough it sounds like ... sign of the times?

Nice but could use some slam poetry over the early parts. Just someone blathering about something and stretching out syllables for no reason. The usual.

[Mascodagama]

Very interesting list, thanks!

Sam Rivers’ Crystals is a masterpiece of ‘out’ large group jazz. He made many other albums for big band - some under Sam Rivers and the Rivbea Orchestra - and all of them are at least very good. The later stuff remains interesting whilst often being rather less challenging as a listen.

[peterpyser]

Return To Forever - Live The Complete Concert

[MIO Records]

Very interesting list, thanks!

Sam Rivers’ Crystals is a masterpiece of ‘out’ large group jazz. He made many other albums for big band - some under Sam Rivers and the Rivbea Orchestra - and all of them are at least very good. The later stuff remains interesting whilst often being rather less challenging as a listen.

Thanks! Crystals is a great addition. I didn't hear it also for ages. Added to the list.

[MIO Records]

Return To Forever - Live The Complete Concert

Interesting one, its actually augmented RTF live concert. I added it to the list as well now, thanks.

[walt]

Two albums from Muhal Richard Abrams Orchestra- The Hearinga Suite and Blu Blu Blu are worthy of consideration.Here are tracks from each release.

[MIO Records]

Two albums from Muhal Richard Abrams Orchestra- The Hearinga Suite and Blu Blu Blu are worthy of consideration.Here are tracks from each release.

Good stuff! thanks.... added them to the list.

[flytomars]

What a fantastic playlist, too bad I don't have spotify...

From the seventies I would add -
Keith Tippett`s Ark - Frames
I find it much more effective than Centipede.

And from the 2000s I would add - the entire discography of Fire Orchestra, but if I had to pick one it would be Ritual
London Brew - London Brew: a supergroup of the best of the London current jazz scene with a homage / inspired by (but completely different to) Bitches Brew, highly recommended.

[mellotron storm]

What about the United Jazz + Rock Ensemble? Released their first live in '77 and studio in '78. A lot of names in this 9 to 10 piece band. Helped me appreciate
musicians like Albert Mangelsdorff the trombone player who I had not heard of prior.

[unclemeat]

Mike Westbrook : Metropolis
Barry Guy and the London Jazz Composers Orchestra : Ode (or any other LJCO)
Globe Unity Orchestra (1st album)

From the 80's, I would highly recommend :
Orchestre National de Jazz (dir. Claude Barthélemy) : Claire and JACK-L!Ne