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    Quote Originally Posted by 3LockBox View Post
    this was my experience as well. Lynne must have had 15 people on stage with him.


    well, rumor has it that they're playing to backing tracks (nowadays) of years older performances. In fact, I had my doubts back in '16 or '17 when we saw them in Seattle.
    I know what you mean as it almost sounded too perfect which is often a red flag, but as you say, they had a ton of musicians and vocalists on stage so maybe it was all legit. The live album from that tour certainly sounds good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    I know what you mean as it almost sounded too perfect which is often a red flag, but as you say, they had a ton of musicians and vocalists on stage so maybe it was all legit. The live album from that tour certainly sounds good.
    The videos of Lynne's 2019 ELO tour on YT show some of the band members handling verses while Lynne chimed in on the choruses. It was the east coast leg of a tour that started on the west coast. I saw him in Tacoma (only 4 dates into that tour) and he sang everything.

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    A friend's band is playing at a local bar this Friday. His original bass player passed away last year and the replacement bass player can't make it this week. The bass player filling in is the bass player who fills in when the bass player for ELO can't make it.
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    RIP Richard Tandy (announced by Jeff Lynne on Facebook)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pb2015 View Post
    RIP Richard Tandy (announced by Jeff Lynne on Facebook)

    https://consequence.net/2024/05/rich...boardist-dead/
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    RIP - wonderful player.
    Richard seemed like a top bloke and was integral in not only the orchestral arrangements and in the studio with Jeff, but played all of that fantastic keyboard work on the classic albums.

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    So glad I got to see Richard, Jeff and the rest of the electric light orchestra in concert twice back in the day, late 1974 and early 1976. Man, they were good. I feel younger just thinking about it, and that doesn't happen often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    I know what you mean as it almost sounded too perfect which is often a red flag, but as you say, they had a ton of musicians and vocalists on stage so maybe it was all legit. The live album from that tour certainly sounds good.
    Having a bunch of insanely talented musicians on stage faking it? I seriously doubt it. Lynne is one of the most hardcore consummate musicians out there, why would he sacrifice his integrity? This isn't The Milli Vanilli Band from 1989...

    As an orchestra teacher for 28+ years, I heard slightly imperfect intonation from the (gorgeous!) violist, so I know her part was as real as rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    Having a bunch of insanely talented musicians on stage faking it? I seriously doubt it. Lynne is one of the most hardcore consummate musicians out there, why would he sacrifice his integrity? This isn't The Milli Vanilli Band from 1989...

    As an orchestra teacher for 28+ years, I heard slightly imperfect intonation from the (gorgeous!) violist, so I know her part was as real as rain.

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    Fans of ELO II here? I love the opening track "In Old England Town" with that nasty but delicious proggy groove in 9/8

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    Having a bunch of insanely talented musicians on stage faking it? I seriously doubt it. Lynne is one of the most hardcore consummate musicians out there, why would he sacrifice his integrity? This isn't The Milli Vanilli Band from 1989...

    As an orchestra teacher for 28+ years, I heard slightly imperfect intonation from the (gorgeous!) violist, so I know her part was as real as rain.

    Must be true today, or in recent years (decades ?).

    But I remember that back in the 70ies E.L.O had the bad reputation of using backing (playback) tapes in concerts for the orchestral sounds and the musicians were faking.

    I've never seen them live and can't attest if these rumours were based on any reliable proven sources.

    BTW, QUEEN had the same bad reputation back then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    Fans of ELO II here? I love the opening track "In Old England Town" with that nasty but delicious proggy groove in 9/8
    I am a fan of both the first two albums. Love the rawness of them. I kind of lost interest a bit after that when the sound became more polished. Still, I do have a later album or two, which I've enjoyed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Krautman View Post

    But I remember that back in the 70ies E.L.O had the bad reputation of using backing (playback) tapes in concerts for the orchestral sounds and the musicians were faking.
    Yeah, I was going to bring that up. I suspect that, in light of that controversy, Lynne would do everything he can to avoid fakery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    Fans of ELO II here? I love the opening track "In Old England Town" with that nasty but delicious proggy groove in 9/8
    Love that album. Always have. Whole album is great but favorites are In Old England Town, From The Sun To The World, and especially Kuiama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Krautman View Post
    Must be true today, or in recent years (decades ?).

    But I remember that back in the 70ies E.L.O had the bad reputation of using backing (playback) tapes in concerts for the orchestral sounds and the musicians were faking.

    I've never seen them live and can't attest if these rumours were based on any reliable proven sources.

    BTW, QUEEN had the same bad reputation back then...
    Ever tried to move around with a cello and play in tune?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rarebird View Post
    Ever tried to move around with a cello and play in tune?
    And why should they "move around" ?

    If it's "only for the show" then J.L should hire dancers/acrobats, not fake musicians.

    It's a poor excuse, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rarebird View Post
    Ever tried to move around with a cello and play in tune?
    Have you ever seen Apocolyptica live? They do a pretty good job of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Krautman View Post
    And why should they "move around" ?

    If it's "only for the show" then J.L should hire dancers/acrobats, not fake musicians.

    It's a poor excuse, really.
    I'm not saying they should move around, but they did. Probably because someone thought sitting musicians were to static.

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    Have you ever seen Apocolyptica live? They do a pretty good job of it.
    I don't think Apolyptica moved around with their cellos the way ELO did. But perhaps I should look at the DVD-R and DVD I have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rarebird View Post
    I don't think Apolyptica moved around with their cellos the way ELO did. But perhaps I should look at the DVD-R and DVD I have.
    I saw them a few years ago and they moved around quite a bit. I never saw ELO back in the day (only one of the recent re-union tours), so can't really compare.

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    I recall reading they used backup tapes in 1978 because the "spaceship" stage design was very hot and caused tuning problems with the strings. Also Lynne used a larger string section on the records than the three guys touring with them then so it was probably hard to get a convincing sound.

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