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    Joe Bonamassa & BCC

    Joe Bonamassa says he is done with Black Country Communion 12 March 2012.

    http://www.hennemusic.com/2013/03/jo...ith-black.html
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    wow, no ego there. what the fuck does the guy need 21 people for anyway?
    you mean they can't find some other LA hotshot to play warmed over Blackmore riffs?
    gimme a break

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    Quote Originally Posted by progholio View Post
    wow, no ego there. what the fuck does the guy need 21 people for anyway?
    you mean they can't find some other LA hotshot to play warmed over Blackmore riffs?
    gimme a break
    That comment right there shows me that you've never heard BCC. Joe doesn't play Blackmore riffs. He plays the Bonamassa blues.

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    ^ Yep, I have to agree with that. There's no sign of Ritchie anywhere there. Plus, considering the number of guitars Joe tours with, I would expect half of that group to be techs.

    Joe is a pretty modest guy. It's not like he has an entourage.

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    It was a cool idea while it lasted.

    There just isn't a market/demand for retro hard rock.
    no tunes, no dynamics, no nosebone

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    ^ Yep, I have to agree with that. There's no sign of Ritchie anywhere there. Plus, considering the number of guitars Joe tours with, I would expect half of that group to be techs.

    Joe is a pretty modest guy. It's not like he has an entourage.
    If 21 people isn't an entourage, what is, 22?

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    I'm surprised they lasted for three albums. I never expected them to go on for more than a few years. Honestly, I thought albums 2 and 3 were dominated by Glenn Hughes. I like Glenn but in this band I wanted to hear an equal amount of Joe's singing and songwriting. Whatever the beef they had was about, Joe's career is bigger than BCC, and Derek and Jason aren't exactley gonna go hungry. It was fun while it lasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    I'm surprised they lasted for three albums. I never expected them to go on for more than a few years. Honestly, I thought albums 2 and 3 were dominated by Glenn Hughes. I like Glenn but in this band I wanted to hear an equal amount of Joe's singing and songwriting. Whatever the beef they had was about, Joe's career is bigger than BCC, and Derek and Jason aren't exactley gonna go hungry. It was fun while it lasted.
    Why are you writing the band off already, Vic? If Asia can go on without Steve Howe and Yes can go on without JA, then BCC can go on without JB. If they can't come up with a replacement, new material, and disband within a few year, then their done.

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    I just don't see what difference it makes at this point. Yeah, they could find another great guitarist, but it's really just another vehicle for Glenn Hughes. They'd essentially be a backup band for Glenn. Like I said, they recorded 3 pretty good albums. The best one was the first one. The other two didn't have the same vibe (imo) and were more of a Glenn Hughes project. I would've loved to have seen them live but I knew they probably weren't gonna last very long. Joe's career is bigger than BCC right now. And he wasn't gonna play second banana to Glenn Hughes. From everything I've read about the beef he had with Glenn, Joe still admires and respects Glenn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    Plus, considering the number of guitars Joe tours with, I would expect half of that group to be techs.

    Joe is a pretty modest guy. It's not like he has an entourage.
    I recently watched Joe Bonamassa doing an acoustic evening at the Vienna Opera House on PBS, with several other musicians from around the world. He was seated onstage with at least a dozen guitars around him. Someone has to make sure every guitar he picks up is tuned properly. I don't know why he needs 21 people with him, but if that's how many he wants to employ in this world of high unemployment, more power to him. In the article, I liked the way Joe managed to convey why he was leaving the band without pointing fingers and badmouthing his bandmates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe F. View Post
    If 21 people isn't an entourage, what is, 22?
    Well, I mean entourage in the sense of a bunch of clingers and sponges, as oppose to people who actually have a role to play or might be a relative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by progholio View Post
    wow, no ego there. what the fuck does the guy need 21 people for anyway?
    One to buy the Diet Coke, 20 to anoint his scrotum. Actually, I hear him about the Diet Coke.


    I love BCC, but I listened to a couple of Bonamassa's albums and they bored me. Actually, I still need the get the latest BCC album.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    One to buy the Diet Coke, 20 to anoint his scrotum. Actually, I hear him about the Diet Coke.


    I love BCC, but I listened to a couple of Bonamassa's albums and they bored me. Actually, I still need the get the latest BCC album.
    It's funny. I have an uncle with an opposite opinion(which I do not share). He loves Joe, but thinks that BCC is just a bunch of noise.

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    This song kicks ass:


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    ^ Yes, I agree, perhaps the best song BCC has put out.

    I have all three studio albums and the live one. I am kind of sad to see them gone. Glenn Hughes is a bad-ass mofo. Exceptional voice, incredible energy at what, 60+, and he needs to be constantly on tour? That's crazy! I would be curious to see if they try to recruit another guitarist and carry on. Bonamassa was perfect, so it will be extremely difficult.

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    If I were a betting man, I'd bet that the ego of the band was Hughes, not JB. Hell, just look at their personas. Joe is relatively unassuming and Hughes is in-your-face with just about everything.

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    Based on the liner notes Hughes seems to be pretty fond of Bonamassa, and a little parental toward him.

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    Read an interesting suggestion earlier today: Kenny Wayne Shepherd.
    Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIF View Post
    That comment right there shows me that you've never heard BCC. Joe doesn't play Blackmore riffs. He plays the Bonamassa blues.
    i've heard enough to know he stole it all from the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIF View Post
    Why are you writing the band off already, Vic? If Asia can go on without Steve Howe and Yes can go on without JA, then BCC can go on without JB. If they can't come up with a replacement, new material, and disband within a few year, then their done.
    i would think that with the pedigree of talent left in the band all they would need to do is grab a guy like say Nuno Bettencourt, or Andy Timmons, or Richie Kotzen, or any other mid-level, out of work rock star (like even the guy from Poison) they could go to the next level.
    of course when Led Zeppelin reunites this goose is cooked anyway.

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    I wouldn't mind if they did another album with some guest guitarists. Imagine having Warren Haynes or Jimmy Page guesting. That would kick. Of course those guys aren't gonna join full time and tour. I'd think they'd want another "big name" guitarist in the band who's firmly rooted in blues/rock and hard/rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by progholio View Post
    i would think that with the pedigree of talent left in the band all they would need to do is grab a guy like say Nuno Bettencourt, or Andy Timmons, or Richie Kotzen, or any other mid-level, out of work rock star (like even the guy from Poison) they could go to the next level.
    of course when Led Zeppelin reunites this goose is cooked anyway.
    Don't know enough about the rest of the guys, but Nuno would be wasting his talents in a band like that.

    I'm thinking Kotzen would, too, but again, don't know enough about him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    Read an interesting suggestion earlier today: Kenny Wayne Shepherd.
    There are quite a few really really talented blues guys out there right now, that play similar style to Joe and have similar vocals. Shepherd would be one of them. Others I could think of that might work:

    Oli Brown
    Philip Sayce
    Anthony Gomes
    Mato Ninji

    Or.....think outside the box and go with a woman:

    Joanne Shaw Taylor
    Samantha Fish
    Ana Popovic

    I love Bonamassa, but I think the band could continue with someone else in a similar vein.

    Steve Sly

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    There are quite a few really really talented blues guys out there right now, that play similar style to Joe and have similar vocals. Shepherd would be one of them.
    Shepherd sings? I thought he always had another person singing. Can't say I follow him, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    Shepherd sings? I thought he always had another person singing. Can't say I follow him, though.
    Well, Kenny can just play guitar and let Glenn sing.

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