Univers Zero ‎– Ceux Du Dehors 2018 remix

[Udi Koomran]

Anyone has this and cares to comment ?
Thanx

[GuitarGeek]

2018? I didn't know such a thing existed. I've got the old Cuneiform reissues, but I"m pretty sure I've had those for a 2-3 years by now.

[nosebone]

I have the vinyl and it sounds fantastic!

[calyx]

Note: What Udi is talking about is a VINYL-only reissue that includes remixed versions of most, but not all, of the album.

Haven't heard it myself - I don't do vinyl.

[Zeuhlmate]

Haven't heard it either, but has been told that the major difference is that the bass level has been lowered.
It is on Youtube, but listening via internet 128 kbps and YT-compression I cant say there is a significant difference.

[NogbadTheBad]

Vinyl only - no Nogbad

[Scrotum Scissor]

the major difference is that the bass level has been lowered.

From what I recall, Etienne Conod was asked specifically to give Ceux a different makeover than the first two, largely acoustically-based UZ albums. While I'd agree that the original ReR vinyl is rather heavy on the bass, I wouldn't say that's the primary difference - still it's the one alteration I tend to manipulate manually when spinning the record. The main contrast, I think - besides the somewhat more 'positive' feel of the music itself (well, everything's relative) - was the introduction of that electric piano. A trait which actually turned out to work well in the context of their new material.

What a blastingly fantastic album this is!

[Zeuhlmate]

I have never thought that the bass was to loud, but the funny drum sound have always puzzled me.
I like it and it fits the music, but it is rather peculiar.

[Udi Koomran]

Here is the digital edition

https://universzero.bandcamp.com/alb...du-dehors-1981

i listened briefly and compared to my Cuneiform cd
i must say its a bit puzzling
will write more in details after some deeper listening

[NogbadTheBad]

Now you're confusing me, that say 2016, is that the same remix or a different one?

[spacefreak]

I own the original vinyl. I'm I missing something?

[Udi Koomran]

Now you're confusing me, that say 2016, is that the same remix or a different one?

I think the remix was done in 2016 and it was released in 2018

[Steve F.]

I have it and I have heard it Several times.
IMO It isn’t radically different. It is interesting and ok but not really a revelation in the way that the first album's reappearance was [at least to me].

Mostly, DD undermixed Guy Segers (what a surprise) and a few buried details were given greater prominence.

I am very glad I have it, but it isn’t a radical change either good or bad...

[Zappathustra]

Combat is a masterpiece of the genre.

[NogbadTheBad]

I personally could not hear enough of a difference in that digital version to justify rebuying.

[Steve F.]

I personally could not hear enough of a difference in that digital version to justify rebuying.

We're all going to point at you and titter at your Ceux ignorance at the next meeting of the cognoscenti avant meeting!

[calyx]

The Bandcamp page is a bit amateur-ish, with some rather appalling misspellings - Jean Defebve becomes "Jean Lefebvre" (a famous French actor), and "Ilona Chale" becomes "Hona Chale".

Has this really been available for download since January 2016, as the page seems to claim ? Even the vinyl release I don't remember happening nearly four years ago...

[Steve F.]

Has this really been available for download since January 2016, as the page seems to claim ? Even the vinyl release I don't remember happening nearly four years ago...

The vinyl was definitely released in the fall of 2018.

[rcarlberg]

On headphones, it sounds like they miked a boombox playing the original mix. No stereo separation, no bass below 100 Hz but then a fairly large hump 100-200 Hz, & everything sounds slightly distant. I kept checking my headphones to make sure they were plugged in all the way -- they sounded like they weren't.

One of U.Zero's strengths has always been the pellucid quality of their recordings -- the live one in particular. This remix totally loses that.

[Udi Koomran]

Listening to this album I marvel at the “medieval” flavor
Love it

[nosebone]

If you love this album (like I do), and still buy LPs then you should get this.

The sound stage is dynamic & deep with lots of detail.

I never owned the original vinyl, but this one blows the CD out of the water , imo.

[Udi Koomran]

I have had the vinyl since 82 or 83
Love it

[Zappathustra]

If you love this album (like I do), and still buy LPs then you should get this.

The sound stage is dynamic & deep with lots of detail.

I never owned the original vinyl, but this one blows the CD out of the water , imo.

I am in, then. I only have Heresie on vinyl.

[Udi Koomran]

If you love this album (like I do), and still buy LPs then you should get this.
The sound stage is dynamic & deep with lots of detail.
I never owned the original vinyl, but this one blows the CD out of the water , imo.

mmm...
I need to further listen but my initial impression is that this mix doesn't hold any significant advantage over the cd
I do hear differences in balances ,more distinct panning positions and timbre
will load it into my protools for easier comparing

[Zeuhlmate]

Ceux de Dehors might come on CD as a part of a box set.

http://universzero.dk/news.htm

I would certainly prefer it as a stand alone album.