Well, seems pretty definitive, to me:
https://metalwani.com/2018/03/steven...-are-zero.html
neil
Well, seems pretty definitive, to me:
https://metalwani.com/2018/03/steven...-are-zero.html
neil
As if there was any chance left...
Still the wishful thinkers wont accept it though...
Personally I have never wanted PT back anyway and I've always thought it would be a step back.
it's inkredipel!
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
Well, that's it for me, I'll be off to kill myself now. Nice knowing you guys.
Over Steve Nilsen?! No, Masco - no!! He's the Prog Dog!Originally Posted by Mascodagama
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
Which begs the question:
Nilsen Schmilsen or Son Of Schmilsen?
Perhaps finding the happy medium is harder than we know.
To be honest SW plays PT songs superbly with his current band and To The Bone is the nearest he has come to releasing a PT album under his own name, so I think it’s almost academic. SW may have turned his back on that configuration of performers, but he can still release music in that range of styles when he wants.
I respect that you can find humour in the blackest adversity my friend, but it's too soon for me to laugh.
Even still, I have decided to stick around for a little bit. Thought I would give one last spin of Script for a Jester's Tear before I went to the shotgun cupboard - first album I ever bought on vinyl, so I thought it might as well be my last. And as I was listening to it, I remembered an email I got from a guy I used to know on Usenet back in 1997. And he told me that he'd heard about a secret plan for Fish to get back with Marilliion for one final time in 2022, to mark the 40th anniversary of recording Grendel. And he knew a guy whose wife's cousin went to school with Pete Trewavas, so I think there might be something in it.
Look, what I'm trying to say is that - okay, there may not be any more Porcupine Tree - but there's still hope!
^ B-but if they -DO- reform, do you think they'll might drift into a routine?! Please say no! "No"!
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
Never - not whilst we keep the flame alive, Richard. It's up to us - all of us - to make sure there's NO DRIFT TOWARDS HUMDRUM ROUTINE IN PROG.
Make sure your local prog band gets different cereals for breakfast every day! I know I do. They're getting used to finding a different box on their doorstep each morning, and they even stopped calling the police.
Elephant9 are hitting the stage at Victoria at 21 hrs. They're prog, which hopefully means that they'll remind me of all other prog bands I know. It's important that they play something that I know and can identify with from past experience. Stĺle Storlřkken better have eyeliners and a tall flowertophat to invoke the right effect. But perhaps he abstains from this, as it would simply be too complex and intellectual a move for him. He's not that good a musician, rightly put. He could only envy the capacities of Igor Khoroshev, who's the most unbelievable knottrotter not only on the planet but outside of the Milkyway as well. To say anything else would imply utter ridiculous insanity.
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
Sounds like an interview with Ian Anderson & Martin Barre ala 1993*! Just wait.....the 2030 equivalent of the "Casino / Fairground Circuit" might just be too seductive to pass up!
*see the 25th Anniversary Video of IA & MB in the pub interviews.
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Steve Wilson ruined Porcupine Tree.
It's Stefan.
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
If they reform, they'll be the Porcupine Tree singularity, and swallow the entire solar system. If Jon doesn't save us, we'll all be doomed!
I'll accept it. I just don't have to be happy about it. I would have loved to hear them in action again, and no, it wouldn't have had to be just a step back.
Oh well.
Well, I was commenting on what a PT reformation would do to this board. It might even push all the Yes threads to page 2, at which point the whole infrastructure just collapses.
Hah, yeah, I'm wondering if Steven Wilson has now reached that rarefied air of Yes threads....inviting passion and defensiveness from serious, don't-say-anything-bad-about-the-messiah types, to mocking scorn from those who have moved on to more serious, underground elitist proggy prog.
neil
"I don’t go backwards. I’m not interested in going backward."
I don't mean to sound disingenuous, but his non-stop remastering of classic prog albums seem to belie that statement.
"So it goes."
-Kurt Vonnegut
I can understand where SW comes from, and I too loved his work with PT. I'm hoping that sometime in the future, when his own creatives juices dry a bit, that he'll do what King Crimson has done, and help to satisfy the old fans, and create another cash-cow. And IMO PT was not just SW, although he was the main writer. The other members highly contributed to their unique sound.
Day dawns dark...it now numbers infinity.
So I've heard recent Steven Wilson. What exactly is the difference again?
"Arf." -- Frank Zappa, "Beauty Knows No Pain" (live version)
Yeah, he really should turn down those job offers. I know I would - who needs income, really?
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Agreed. Porcupine Tree was pretty much all Steven Wilson anyway, for a few years early on there were no other band members
What I miss about PT is the continuity of the live concerts. There is something to be said for playing with the same core of band mates, establishing that teamwork, that interplay. I liked Barbieri's keyboard sounds, and that monster clean bass of Colin. I loved Harrison on drums. Wilson's solo tours, while consisting of some quality musicians, seem to be a revolving door hodge podge with little continuity. So while PT was always mostly Wilson of course, I miss the band.
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