Charles Aznavour sings in Holland one of these days and tickets go for ... $300+....
Well, he's 91, so the chances fans have to see him aren't growing.
Charles Aznavour sings in Holland one of these days and tickets go for ... $300+....
Well, he's 91, so the chances fans have to see him aren't growing.
Steve F.
www.waysidemusic.com
www.cuneiformrecords.com
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“Remember, if it doesn't say "Cuneiform," it's not prog!” - THE Jed Levin
Any time any one speaks to me about any musical project, the one absolute given is "it will not make big money". [tip of the hat to HK]
"Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"
please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
Steve F.
www.waysidemusic.com
www.cuneiformrecords.com
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“Remember, if it doesn't say "Cuneiform," it's not prog!” - THE Jed Levin
Any time any one speaks to me about any musical project, the one absolute given is "it will not make big money". [tip of the hat to HK]
"Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"
please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.
I saw Aznavour a couple of years ago here in Moscow. I wouldn't say his voice isn't affected by age - it sure is, but who the hell cares? The artistry is there, as well as the sheer charisma that makes him stand alone on stage almost motionless and still have all eyes on him and not a whisper among the audience... The only other singer who had the big concert hall in Moscow similarly mesmerzied was Leonard Cohen.
I'd go to see Family I were you, of course. One of the great bands of their era! I kick myself for not going to Colosseum show back in 2005 or so when they played in Moscow, it's now an opportunity forever missed.
Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?
Chappo put together this Family line-up back in 2013 I believe. Gigs have been just a few at a time since. I've dug out my ticket from the Leicester O2 Academy gig in January 2014, and it cost £35. I remember thinking at the time it was perhaps a little steep; Steve Hackett's Genesis Revisited cost me only £26.50, and I would have paid double that. So a little over a year later and an extra £15, eh?
But, and it's a very big but for you, I thought the gig was brilliant. Chappo's voice isn't all shot, and no-one else can tackle No Mule's Fool and Weaver's Answer quite like he can. It was the first time I'd seen Family since Sheffield City Hall in 1970, so I wasn't expecting the intervening 44 years to just roll back as though like magic. I was very pleasantly surprised that it didn't turn into just a nostalgia trip.
I'd definitely go again for £35; I'd struggle to justify £50 if the set were near identical.
I'm not helping your decision, am I?
Sorry.
She walks like a bearded rainbow.
"Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM
£50 does seem a bit steep for the ABC - a great place to see a band, but pretty basic (standing only). In fact anything above £30 gets the raised eyebrow from me, unless it's a mega act at the Hydro or SECC.
However if they were "one of my all time favourite bands" I think I'd probably suck it up and go...
You're right. He's 73. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Chapman
^^Plus the fact that the artist don't get as much from selling albums nowadays, so they have to ask these prices.
I just paid $65 for Anderson-Ponty Band gig in Berkley Performance Center in Boston. IT was the cheapest ticket available. Plus, I had to pay $40 for 3.5 hours parking. So, my total was $100.
$75 for a gig in UK where everything is about 1.5 times more expensive than in US isn't outrageous, in my opinion.
Unless that "Family" is like the modern "Yes" with one or two classic line-up members only.
P.S. Why nobody complains about cost of CDs in UK: 19-26 pounds?
You see, you're all starting from the viewpoint that Jack and Ginger's normal mode is not falling out with each other. I see it more as two guys who every so often had a kind of falling in.
Interestingly, both (well, Jack more than Ginger) have claimed that really they are (or were) dear friends and love each other dearly, but they just couldn't work together.
CDs in the UK are normally £10 for new releases with archive prices less, those prices quoted seem more like vinyl prices which are high but then the production run is small.
I would pay premium for a rare opportunity to see a favourite artist. I don't know the production values or costs of staging, but these gigs do not happen without cost and effort, and I doubt they are priced to make anybody rich.
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They don't cost that much if you're in the UK! I must admit I buy very few CDs by Uk artists -the last two were the Formal Horse eps at £5 each and Van der Graaf's Merlin Atmos at £13.99 for a double CD. I'd say in general about £10-£12 for a new album, £3-8 for a back catalogue CD, maybe more in physical shops but I haven't been in one for years! I buy almost everyhting through Bandcamp or direct from the artists. And I think £50 is way too much to see a band. At the very least I'd expect a comfortable seated venue for that. I saw Family a few times back in their heyday but I wouldn't expect much of them now.
Steve F.
www.waysidemusic.com
www.cuneiformrecords.com
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“Remember, if it doesn't say "Cuneiform," it's not prog!” - THE Jed Levin
Any time any one speaks to me about any musical project, the one absolute given is "it will not make big money". [tip of the hat to HK]
"Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"
please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.
Let's also factor in that travel is more expensive, and being Canadians, the cost to them of things like per diems to road crew in the USA are now about 30-35% more expensive...as are hotels.
It's a lot more expensive to tour than it was five years ago for a Canadian band if for no other reason than the weakened CDN $.. and that's just one reason.
I only know the first two but they are good examples of the transition of psych into prog(especially the first one).
Wouldn't a weak currency in your home country make touring MORE profitable rather than less? Some of the expenses would be higher when expressed in your local currency, but all theconcert takings would be in the currency of the country you are playing in; therefore it seems to me it would make sense from a money point of view to play in countries where the currency is high relative to your own.
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