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    Quote Originally Posted by Facelift View Post
    I don't have a problem with this, because this all *will* be possible someday - just not today. Future geneticists won't need to find a miracle mosquito to provide full genetic blueprints - most or even all will simply be created/modified in labs.

    I could see the extinct fauna after the dinosaurs because we have preserved dna from those animals. Where there will be a problem is from fossils because very few are actual bones, skin, shells, etc. Most are actually stone.
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    Science FICTION!!! Suspend belief or not is irrelevant in FICTION!! FICTION does not have to be plausible at all because it's FICTION, aka NOT TRUE. SHEESH.

    About the flick, it's ok. Chris Pratt was good in the lead and probably the saving grace as most of the action is rehashed from the original 3 movies. What gets me is that there are 4 credited screenwriters!! Based on the inept dialog, complete lack of cohesive story, and choppy narrative I'd guess these four screenwriters were still in High School.

    Go see the movie if you like CGI Dinosaurs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Eric View Post
    Science FICTION!!! Suspend belief or not is irrelevant in FICTION!! FICTION does not have to be plausible at all because it's FICTION, aka NOT TRUE. SHEESH.

    About the flick, it's ok. Chris Pratt was good in the lead and probably the saving grace as most of the action is rehashed from the original 3 movies. What gets me is that there are 4 credited screenwriters!! Based on the inept dialog, complete lack of cohesive story, and choppy narrative I'd guess these four screenwriters were still in High School.

    Go see the movie if you like CGI Dinosaurs.
    so those film classes I took were wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune Blackwings View Post
    so those film classes I took were wrong?
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Eric View Post
    Yes.
    LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    It all depends on the individual. For example, I can suspend belief and watch a zombie movie. Of course the notion of a zombie is beyond absurd. But I'll buy into it.

    However, I cannot stomach anything involving time travel. It's a personal issue, but it seems so ridiculous that I can't enjoy a movie that involves time travel as part of the premise. The whole Terminator series? I don't get it, they are coming back in time to kill this kid? If they do, does that change everything in the future? If he had children, do they suddenly disappear in the future? And when they are hatching this plan to go back in time to kill the kid, where exactly are they going? How are they getting there? It's so silly I don't buy it at all.
    Too bad, I love time travel fiction, movies and books. Will time travel ever be possible? I have my doubts. But it's a fun thing to fantasize about with so many "possibilities;" improbable or not. The Terminator franchise ran out of steam after the first two films, but I enjoyed them. The 12 Monkeys is a great time travel movie and Stephen King's "11/22/63" is my favorite time travel novel, about a guy going back to try to prevent John Kennedy's murder. Different strokes!

    I'll probably see Jurassic World. But I wish that instead of a reboot of a movie based on a Crichton book, they'd make a movie out of his last novel, "Micro." It's even more implausible than Jurassic Park, but it'd potentially make a great film!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune Blackwings View Post
    I do not care how much genetic manipulation you do on it, you are not getting that many different species of dinosaurs from a mosquito. And some folks argue: "Oh, but they had lots of mosquitos!" I don't care! You cannot possibly find THAT much workable DNA in the digestive system of a Mosquito!
    It wasn't just one mosquito, of course. Presumably they found lots of sources for different dinosaurs' DNA, though exactly where is not explained.

    I recently read "Neanderthal Man" by Paabo Svante, where he discusses at some length the disintegration of DNA immediately following the death of an animal. The greater the length of time, the greater the disintegration. He had trouble sequencing the genome of dodos and passenger pigeons, which went extinct in the past hundred years. With great effort he sequenced the mammoth, which went extinct 4000 years ago. He was only able to synthesize bits of the Neanderthal genome from 40,000 years ago.

    Dinosaurs? 65 million years ago? Ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Eric View Post
    What gets me is that there are 4 credited screenwriters!! Based on the inept dialog, complete lack of cohesive story, and choppy narrative I'd guess these four screenwriters were still in High School.
    More likely, #2 rewrote everything #1 wrote, #3 rewrote everything #2 wrote, and #4 rewrote everything #3 wrote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    It wasn't just one mosquito, of course. Presumably they found lots of sources for different dinosaurs' DNA, though exactly where is not explained.

    I recently read "Neanderthal Man" by Paabo Svante, where he discusses at some length the disintegration of DNA immediately following the death of an animal. The greater the length of time, the greater the disintegration. He had trouble sequencing the genome of dodos and passenger pigeons, which went extinct in the past hundred years. With great effort he sequenced the mammoth, which went extinct 4000 years ago. He was only able to synthesize bits of the Neanderthal genome from 40,000 years ago.

    Dinosaurs? 65 million years ago? Ridiculous.
    a lot of people have this rather fantastic belief that DNA is some kind of supernatural substance that provides omnipotence and is absolute.
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    Characters in wuxia martial arts movies use their kung fu chi do basically do magic. It's totally plausible.

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    Kung Fu dinosaurs would definitely get me out of the house!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunhillow View Post
    You're kiddin' right? I thought it was the worst movie of the year. The two kids jumping in the water to escape the gigant modified Rex ("I can't!" "Yes, you can. 1, 2, 3 .. ")

    I wish this movie was produced by a combination of people working with The Walking Dead and Game Of Thrones. Surely, those two annoying kids wouldn't been eaten showing all details. Now, THEN I might have liked it
    I think worst movie of the year is a shoe in for "Fifty Shades of Grey"

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosebone View Post
    Kung Fu dinosaurs would definitely get me out of the house!
    Godzilla learned karate for one of his movies; I think that's as close as you're going to get.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack in Wilmington View Post
    I think worst movie of the year is a shoe in for "Fifty Shades of Grey"
    I don't doubt it. Once before leaving for a tour on the road with a band, I accidentally grabbed a book that I'd already read. One of the female singers gave me FSoG to read, since she'd finished it. I got about 2/3rds of the way through it... and I'm a little ashamed to admit I got that far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    More likely, #2 rewrote everything #1 wrote, #3 rewrote everything #2 wrote, and #4 rewrote everything #3 wrote.

    It's usually writer #1 :"Here is a coherent story"
    Director to writer#2: "I need some time shortened and it needs more explosions."
    Actor A to uncredited writer: "I don't like that my character is turned into a sniveling ball of baby tears halfway through the movie. Rewrite me to be more badass."
    Actor B to another uncredited writer: "Actor A has all the best lines and I look like a whiney bitch. Rewrite my character to be more badass than Actor A."
    Actor C to yet another uncredited writer: "I want my character to be a zen master at one with nature....and my contract says I get to have sheep in every scene I am in."
    Producer to writer #3: "Rewrite the entire thing to accommodate my girlfriend."
    New Director to writer #4: "This thing is a mess! Can you write this into some semblance of a workable screenplay?? And more explosions!"
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    I've never heard one person say they were a dinosaur in a past life. That makes me sad. I'd like to know a dinosaur.

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    3 stars. Summer entertainment. Saw the ending (SPOILER ALERTS: Big undersea dino saves the day) coming from a mile away. My son also nailed the "Velocoraptor DNA" thing early on......

    These are spectacles, pure and simple. The first was better, of course. But Jurrasic World was fun stuff, if one accepts it as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack in Wilmington View Post
    I think worst movie of the year is a shoe in for "Fifty Shades of Grey"
    fans of the book get their panties in a wad when I tell them it's a porn novel.
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    Crap wanna-be scandalous S&M novels that get turned into crap wanna-be scandalous S&M movies have been around for 40 years. Look at Story of O and whatever that dumb Mickey Rourke/Kim Bassinger thing was in the 80s. How people think this is worth even 15 seconds of fame is beyond me...

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    Crap wanna-be scandalous S&M novels that get turned into crap wanna-be scandalous S&M movies have been around for 40 years. Look at Story of O and whatever that dumb Mickey Rourke/Kim Bassinger thing was in the 80s. How people think this is worth even 15 seconds of fame is beyond me...
    Oh, but it's titillating!!

    A great example of packaging that exceeds the quality of the product. Especially, when enabled by an obsessive media machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wideopenears View Post
    But Jurrasic World was fun stuff, if one accepts it as it is.
    I saw it in 3D yesterday afternoon for $6 at the theater that's about 5 blocks from my home. Despite the plot holes, clichés, silliness, cornball moments and predictability, I enjoyed it! The dino CGI was pretty cool and it clipped along at a decent pace. It can't touch Jurassic Park, but I think it was better than the two sequels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trurl View Post
    Characters in wuxia martial arts movies use their kung fu chi do basically do magic. It's totally plausible.
    Right - it's not the lack of "the laws of physics" so much as it's the addition of magical powers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by No Pride View Post
    I saw it in 3D yesterday afternoon for $6 at the theater that's about 5 blocks from my home. Despite the plot holes, clichés, silliness, cornball moments and predictability, I enjoyed it! The dino CGI was pretty cool and it clipped along at a decent pace. It can't touch Jurassic Park, but I think it was better than the two sequels.
    I think I will wait until it comes out on DVD, turn down the sound, crank up some Zyklon, and skip to the parts where the dinosaurs are destroying things and eating people...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune Blackwings View Post
    I think I will wait until it comes out on DVD, turn down the sound, crank up some Zyklon, and skip to the parts where the dinosaurs are destroying things and eating people...
    Well, there's plenty of that going on. And don't skip people getting stomped upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Pride View Post
    Well, there's plenty of that going on. And don't skip people getting stomped upon.
    of course not
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