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    Rush - Live Kiel Auditorium '80(April 27 Release)

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    Kiel Auditorium, St Louis, MI, February 14 1980 (cd pre-order)


    Recorded on Valentine's Day 1980, shortly after the release of Permanent Waves, this forceful live set captures the legendary Canadian trio at their Progressive best.

    A digitally mastered high quality recording featuring the entirety of a radio broadcast, Kiel showcases several of the band's best-loved material, and comes with background liner notes and images.

    Pre-order for 27th April release.

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    https://www.burningshed.com/store/pr...duct/462/6563/
    1. 2112
    2. By-Tor And The Snow Dog
    3. Xanadu
    4. The Spirit Of Radio
    5. Natural Science
    6. Beneath, Between, Behind
    7. Working Man
    8. Anthem
    9. Bastille Day
    10. In The Mood
    11. La Villa Strangiato

    Looks slightly non-official (sorta like that 1974 concert released a while back).
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    Great show!

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    This was out last year, vinyl and CD different title?

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    "Spirit of the Airwaves" Live 1980 Radio Broadcast. Label Smokin 2014. Back on Black for vinyl release.

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    I was at that show. They are missing quite a lot (going by what Polmico posted). Cygnus and most of Hemispheres, The Trees, Closer to the Heart, Jacob's Ladder, and Free Will, and maybe Passage to Bangkok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerking View Post
    I was at that show. They are missing quite a lot (going by what Polmico posted). Cygnus and most of Hemispheres, The Trees, Closer to the Heart, Jacob's Ladder, and Free Will, and maybe Passage to Bangkok.
    I've seen this one circulating as a boot for ages (wait, do I still have that one on cassette somewhere? ) But it's still a good set of tunes. I wonder if this is all the radio broadcast had available and so is all they could really license.

    It's good to see Rush letting these archival live recordings out, all the same.
    I'm holding out for the Wilson-mixed 5.1 super-duper walletbuster special anniversary extra adjectives edition.

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    I DL'd the boot of this when I first got on DIME. The UK must have slightly different rules for copyrights on radio broadcasts.

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    Yeah, that is missing quite a bit of material, and is missing the stuff I would want the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jupiter0rjapan View Post
    Yeah, that is missing quite a bit of material, and is missing the stuff I would want the most.
    ^^^^DITTO!!!!

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    BUT - what is on that disc and the bootleg I've loved for years is great. Everything except the one little stumble Neil has on Natural Science - it's the shit! I'm with ya though - I'd love to get the best part of that show on a full release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerking View Post
    I was at that show. They are missing quite a lot (going by what Polmico posted). Cygnus and most of Hemispheres, The Trees, Closer to the Heart, Jacob's Ladder, and Free Will, and maybe Passage to Bangkok.
    The missing songs almost make a better setlist on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    "Spirit of the Airwaves" Live 1980 Radio Broadcast. Label Smokin 2014. Back on Black for vinyl release.
    I have it on CD as "Live in St. Louis 1980" (On The Air). It is a slightly different version to the other two (which seem identical), with a bit different track order and the "Exit... Stage Left" outtake Vital Signs added as a bonus.



    I still wonder whether the upcoming one is any more official.

    Quote Originally Posted by flowerking View Post
    I was at that show. They are missing quite a lot (going by what Polmico posted). Cygnus and most of Hemispheres, The Trees, Closer to the Heart, Jacob's Ladder, and Free Will, and maybe Passage to Bangkok.
    Yeah, the typical setlist for that tour was the following (omissions in bold):

    1. 2112
    2. Freewill
    3. By-Tor And The Snow Dog
    4. Xanadu
    5. The Spirit Of Radio
    6. Natural Science
    7. A Passage To Bangkok
    8. The Trees
    9. Cygnus X-1: Book I: The Voyage
    10. Cygnus X-1: Book II: Hemispheres
    11. Closer To The Heart

    12. Beneath, Between And Behind
    13. Jacob’s Ladder
    Medley:
    - 14. Working Man
    - 15. Finding My Way
    - 15. Anthem
    - 16. Bastille Day
    - 17. In The Mood
    - 18. Drum Solo
    Encore:
    19. La Villa Strangiato

    http://www.rush.com/tour/permanent-waves/

    All in all, the missing tracks notwithstanding, it is probably one of the best live documents in Rush career, easily trumping the slightly dull studio-tampered "Exit... Stage Left". Hopefully we will get a full recording of this show one day.
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    Jacob's Ladder from this tour had a real bite to them.

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    This was the first tour that I saw Rush on.

    I remember when this was broadcast on the radio. A bunch of us recorded it on to cheap cassettes and played it death over the remaining school year.

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    Kind of lame without the full set.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jay.Dee View Post
    All in all, the missing tracks notwithstanding, it is probably one of the best live documents in Rush career, easily trumping the slightly dull studio-tampered "Exit... Stage Left".
    There's also the 1978 Hammersmith show on 3 Stages Live, which is totally fantastic but not sure if it's the full set. It ends on Cinderella Man?

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    You're shittin me, my wife was at that show. She'll flip when she finds out she can get a souvenir from the show 35 years later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Man In The Mountain View Post
    There's also the 1978 Hammersmith show on Different Stages Live, which is totally fantastic but not sure if it's the full set. It ends on Cinderella Man?
    It is not the full set either, missing are Lakeside Park, Closer to the Heart, 2112 and the drum solo (only its 10 seconds were left at the end of In The Mood). Here is the supposed setlist (omissions again in bold):

    1. Bastille Day
    2. Lakeside Park
    3. By-Tor & The Snow Dog
    4. Xanadu
    5. A Farewell to Kings
    6. Something for Nothing
    7. Cygnus X-1
    8. Anthem
    9. Closer to the Heart
    10. 2112

    Medley:
    - 11. Working Man
    - 12. Fly by Night
    - 13. In the Mood
    - 14. Drum Solo
    Encore 2:
    15. Cinderella Man

    http://www.rush.com/tour/archives/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Man In The Mountain View Post
    Kind of lame without the full set.



    There's also the 1978 Hammersmith show on 3 Stages Live, which is totally fantastic but not sure if it's the full set. It ends on Cinderella Man?
    I understand your sentiment, but it was a radio broadcast. I recorded it (on 8 track!) when it first aired, and it is anything BUT lame! Flippin awesome is more like it. My favorite version of 2112 and BT & the SD. They were on fire, especially Alex. Completely destroys Exit... Lots of passion all around.

    I made a CD(s) of the full PW set using this, with parts of the "Desert Passage" boot (Tuscon '78), and Exit... to complete the set.

    I also dig the Hammersmith show. That was the main reason that I bought Different Stages. Wasn't much into 90s Rush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearHed289 View Post
    I understand your sentiment, but it was a radio broadcast. I recorded it (on 8 track!) when it first aired, and it is anything BUT lame! Flippin awesome is more like it. My favorite version of 2112 and BT & the SD. They were on fire, especially Alex. Completely destroys Exit... Lots of passion all around.
    Well, if they didn't originally air the whole show, then it's cool. I thought they were just dropped for the CD release. I'll have to see if I already have a boot of it. I have a whole bunch of live shows that someone sent me years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by gearHed289 View Post
    I also dig the Hammersmith show. That was the main reason that I bought Different Stages. Wasn't much into 90s Rush.
    I with you bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearHed289 View Post
    My favorite version of 2112
    Isn't it? They play it so fluently and with such a blast... It really gains in this version on cohesion and impact - fifteen minutes of pure condensed blitz!

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    It's funny, but that bonus disc with Different Stages makes the band sound like a raw hard-rock band that is just a step or two away from playing in their garage...but all the bootleg live shows I've heard from the same time period make them sound uber-on-fire professionals. Not sure if it's the sound mix or the song selection. What should have been a show that would never leave my CD player, rarely ever makes it in! --Peter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay.Dee View Post
    Isn't it? They play it so fluently and with such a blast... It really gains in this version on cohesion and impact - fifteen minutes of pure condensed blitz!
    Understandable since for me Rush peaked as players around 1980. So it's reasonable to assume they'd be firing on all cylinders during that tour. Especially after having played that material on every tour going back to '76. By 1980 they could have kicked ass with it in their sleep.

    Part of it also is that with the PW album they were invigorated by stripping down their sound and going in more of a Police-like direction rather than trying to be a 3-piece version of Yes. I think that liberated them to focus on locking in to the grooves and just rocking out, rather than trying to create big atmospheres on stage. Something like "2112" definitely benefits from that approach. Hell -- as the tapes reveal everything benefited!

    And this is perhaps a topic for a different thread, but part of what fascinates me about Rush is the way they reinvented themselves successfully in '79 and didn't follow other prog bands down the drain. I'm thinking especially of UK, who I think had a chance to follow Rush's lead after Danger Money by finding the balance between accessible rock music and prog, played with a lot of skill and dynamics. Jobson somewhat achieved this with the Zinc album, though IMO Wetton didn't have the songwriting or lyrical chops the boys in Rush did at the time. Genesis were really the only other band to make that transition and the Duke album has some Rush-like moments on it (besides sharing PW's sparser and more energetic sound). The other band to mention is Saga, who also seemed to be drinking from the same pond as Rush circa 1980. Anyways, just food for thought...
    I'm holding out for the Wilson-mixed 5.1 super-duper walletbuster special anniversary extra adjectives edition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proglodite View Post
    It's funny, but that bonus disc with Different Stages makes the band sound like a raw hard-rock band that is just a step or two away from playing in their garage...but all the bootleg live shows I've heard from the same time period make them sound uber-on-fire professionals. Not sure if it's the sound mix or the song selection. What should have been a show that would never leave my CD player, rarely ever makes it in! --Peter
    Remember, that's from the Farewell To Kings tour, so just a year after 2112. Geddy barely had a keyboard rig back then and was still coming to grips with doing anything with it on stage. So for that tour I think they tended to lean back on their roots as a 3-piece rock band, as you say. It wasn't until the Hemispheres tour that they started to achieve that bigger and wider sound.

    Also, the FTK setlist was still at least 50% older material from their hard rock period, and their stage sound hadn't really evolved either. They were just starting to play bigger halls where they needed better sound gear that could really fill the space. Anyways, I agree it's very transitional and only beginning to hint at the live band they would become just a few years later.
    I'm holding out for the Wilson-mixed 5.1 super-duper walletbuster special anniversary extra adjectives edition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulrus View Post
    And this is perhaps a topic for a different thread, but part of what fascinates me about Rush is the way they reinvented themselves successfully in '79 and didn't follow other prog bands down the drain. I'm thinking especially of UK, who I think had a chance to follow Rush's lead after Danger Money by finding the balance between accessible rock music and prog, played with a lot of skill and dynamics.
    Indeed Rush reinvented themselves very successfully, just like Peter Gabriel, King Crimson or post-Henry Cow crowd did (artistically speaking at least) by following new post-punk/new-wave stylistic paradigms. However, many progressive musicians, including UK, tried to bet on a different horse - jazz fusion. I have recently mused on it on a different forum, so I will just copy my thoughts here:

    Well, I would neither put [UK] up with anything from the classic rock period (nor with AOR music like Asia as some want to see it), not because it does not hold up well but simply because it belongs to a different time and style altogether.

    It is important to note that with the declining influence of 60s experimental/progressive aesthetics around mid-70s, many progressively-minded rock artists started to look at fusion as an area of potential development, which had its own audience and market as well as seemed to offer a relatively safe shelter from commercial music formatting. Here are some key live recordings which evidence this stylistic shift:

    Isotope - Golden Section '74-75
    Caravan - BBC Live in Concert '75
    Soft Machine - Floating World Live '75 & British Tour '75 (the former with Allan Holdsworth)
    Magma - Live/Hhaï '75
    Gong - Live in Sherwood Forest '75
    National Health - Missing Pieces '75-76 & Playtime '79 (the former with Bill Bruford)
    Brand X - Missing Period '75-76
    Frank Zappa - Philly '76 (featuring Eddie Jobson & Terry Bozzio)
    Camel - Live Record '77 (first disc)
    Jeff Beck - Live '77

    I would also throw Colosseum II and Moraz-era Yes into the mix if they had any live document officially released. And that is in my opinion the proper context of UK's formation and its sort of continuation in the form of Bruford (the band). Now add UK's Live in Boston '78 or Night After Night '79 to this list and you will see how naturally they fit in and how well they stand up among their peers. [...]

    As for me, if forced to pick only three entries from the list I would go with Magma's Live/Hhaï, UK's Live in Boston and National Health's Playtime. I find the prog-jazz fusion of these three bands the most interesting, organic and unique out of the whole bunch.
    http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/thread...#post-12188318

    From what I have understood from musicians' recollections the fusion bet ruined financially quite a few progressive rock bands trying their hand at this style. This once promising market either gradually dried up or turned into smooth/slick-jazz wasteland at the break of the 80s, which left the bands insolvent and unable to continue touring in the old school way, with unwieldy and costly equipment.

    The 70s instrumental solos-oriented music basically returned to the underground club circuit, which forced disillusioned instrumentalists like John Wetton or Dave Stewart look for greener pastures of mainstream pop-rock, already successfully tested by Genesis.

    I would love to have seen the bands like UK and National Health evolve and prosper, but in hindsight it seems that it was simply impossible in the new environment.
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