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    Michael Rutherford - Smallcreep's Day

    The Portuguese pressing being the best sounding.
    Brilliant first side but tapers off a little on side two, still worth a listen from time to time.

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    I should revisit this one. I never cared for it (although I love every other Genesis member's debut solo LP), and I really tried. It suffers from "not enough personality" disorder, which is one attribute a solo album really needs: Some personality! The 7" B-side is the best track (IMO), but thanks for the reminder; ill dig out the vinyl today.

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    Best he ever did on his own.

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    I've never heard this album but I know Mike deprecated it because he felt he could not sing well enough. Are the vocals that bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_32_116 View Post
    I've never heard this album but I know Mike deprecated it because he felt he could not sing well enough. Are the vocals that bad?
    He doesn't sing on Smallcreep's Day, the vocals are by Noel McCalla. And they're pretty decent.

    The one he DOES sing on is Acting Very Strange, and yes. Oh God, yes. My GOD, yes. Worse.
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    I really loved it when it came out. The whole "Smallcreep" section is great and I love the beautiful ballad that it ends with. Simon Phillips on drums, Ant on keys, great singing from Noel McCalla, a lot to like here.

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    Not a perfect album, but I love almost all of it, and have done since it came out. I still listen to it regularly. Side 2 of the vinyl isn't quite as strong as side 1, but still very good. 1979 & 1980 was such a brilliant time for Genesis fans, with Duke (the last great Genesis album IMO), plus excellent solo output from all the classic lineup - Gabriel 3, Spectral Mornings, Defector and A Curious Feeling, finally culminating in Face Value being released early in 81 (little did we know....).

    I liked Noel McCalla's vocals too - I don't think he ever got the breaks he deserved, although I enjoyed his work with MMEB, and the short-lived Partners In Crime.

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    .... But Acting Very Strange was horrible. I recall Mike saying in interviews at the time that someone told him to have a brandy before he recorded his vocals. He struggled so much with them that he was on a bottle a day. Nowadays I'd need to down a bottle of brandy just to listen to the thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mx20 View Post
    The 7" B-side is the best track (IMO)
    I agree here..."Compression" is a good track. I've never been able to get into this album overall. Parts of the main suite are okay, but there's not much that makes me want to ever revisit it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasKDye View Post
    The one he DOES sing on is Acting Very Strange, and yes. Oh God, yes. My GOD, yes. Worse.
    Yeah, a stinker for sure, if that wasn't obvious by the cover. Oddly enough, the first thing I ever bought on E-bay, since it was cheap and long out of print (probably only ever printed once!)
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    It's been so long since I've had the vinyl... the suite was side 2, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasKDye View Post
    He doesn't sing on Smallcreep's Day, the vocals are by Noel McCalla. And they're pretty decent.

    The one he DOES sing on is Acting Very Strange, and yes. Oh God, yes. My GOD, yes. Worse.
    Ah, OK, Acting Very Strange would be the one I am thinking of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trurl View Post
    It's been so long since I've had the vinyl... the suite was side 2, right?
    Side 1 was the Smallcreep's Day suite

    Side 1
    "Smallcreep's Day" I. Between the Tick & the Tock II. Working in Line III. After Hours IV. Cats and Rats (In This Neighbourhood) V. Smallcreep Alone VI. Out into the Daylight VII. At the End of the Day

    Side 2
    Moonshine
    Time and Time Again
    Romani
    Every Road
    Overnight Job

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    Good timing. I just listened to this one recently, something I don't do often but every time I do I'm reminded how strong a record it is. Much of it easily stands up to what Genesis were doing at the time (ATTWT - Duke).

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Elephant View Post
    great singing from Noel McCalla
    I don't know if others hear it but to my ears McCalla sounds pretty similar to the guy Tony got to sing on A Curious Feeling, Kim Beacon. Clearly he and Mike both had the same style vocalist in mind for their albums.
    I'm holding out for the Wilson-mixed 5.1 super-duper walletbuster special anniversary extra adjectives edition.

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    Why did Rutherford decide to sing on Acting Very Strange? Ego? Tone deaf about his own voice?
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    I don't know but it begat an even WORSE crime - Tony singing on The Fugitive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulrus View Post
    I don't know if others hear it but to my ears McCalla sounds pretty similar to the guy Tony got to sing on A Curious Feeling, Kim Beacon. Clearly he and Mike both had the same style vocalist in mind for their albums.
    I've always thought they had similar styles too, and I did think that when Collins left Genesis, McCalla would have been someone they might consider. I had heard that Kim Beacon was actually on the radar of Genesis when Pete left, but have not seen any evidence of it. Kim Beacon had a great voice, and was briefly in String Driven Thing, another former Charisma band, although Kim came along late in the day, well after the touring with Genesis.

    I was active on the Scottish gig circuit in the 80's early 90's and The Kim Beacon Band were regulars then, playing great music in small bars & clubs. Kim had seemingly been a bit of a rock "casualty" with rumours of substances & booze, but I never saw that, although he was tightly marshalled by his father, Norrie. Sadly, Kim died around 2001. Thanks to the Genesis connection, he lives on in the minds of many people.

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    You can count me as one of the people who always enjoyed Smallcreep's Day. I've only got a vinyl recording, and pray one day there's another CD reissue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splicer View Post
    Why did Rutherford decide to sing on Acting Very Strange? Ego? Tone deaf about his own voice?
    Don't know, maybe since Tony actually sounded kind of decent (would have been much better with someone else though) on 'The Fugitive', maybe he thought he'd give it a whirl. Big mistake. Tony sounds WAY better, and that isn't saying a whole lot. He should have gotten Steve Howe to sing, would have been better

    I like 'Smallcreep's Day' though, not quite the composition level of 'Curious Feeling' of course, but I wouldn't expect it to be. Still a nice album, good feeling throughout. I think Ant Phillips helped this album a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martiprog View Post
    Side 1 was the Smallcreep's Day suite
    The two sides were reversed for some reason on the US Passport version.

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    Love this album!!!
    Is the CD now out of print?

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    OOP for years...'Acting Very Strange' unavailable for even longer.

    Love the suite. 'Out Into The Daylight' is absolutely immense, really thunderous and soul-stirring stuff- as good as anything Genesis did in this period. I adore the climactic 'At The End Of The Day' too.

    The other half is a bit bland apart from 'Moonshine', which is great and has a particularly strong lead vocal performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bRETT View Post
    The two sides were reversed for some reason on the US Passport version.
    I heard that too.

    Anyway, I liked the album quite a lot and hoped for a decent re-release, especially after Tony's 5.1 treatment of A Curious Feeling. When that didn't happen I bought the 2007-version, which was sold at the Genesis-concerts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bRETT View Post
    The two sides were reversed for some reason on the US Passport version.
    Yep, that's what I remember. And it seemed to make more sense than the other way, which I think the cd was.

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    There are currently 140 copies of this LP (and 3 cassettes!) on Discogs, beginning around two bucks. No CD copies however.

    31 LP copies (and 1 8-track!) on E-bay, and one CD for $55.00.

    11 CD copies on amazon marketplace (U.S.), mostly in "VG" shape, and a couple of high-priced copies that claim to be "New".

    Mike should probably re-release this in a special edition (with at least "Compression" as a bonus track), as there seems to be a market for it. Hell, Banks did it with A Curious Feeling and that sold well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martiprog View Post

    I liked Noel McCalla's vocals too - I don't think he ever got the breaks he deserved, although I enjoyed his work with MMEB, and the short-lived Partners In Crime.
    Noel did some backing vocals on this one too: http://www.sniffnthetears.com/Fickle%20Heart.html

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