http://jazzistheworst.blogspot.com/2...ician.html?m=1
I think much of this could apply to becoming a famous prog musician as well.
http://jazzistheworst.blogspot.com/2...ician.html?m=1
I think much of this could apply to becoming a famous prog musician as well.
"It was a cruel song, but fair."-Roger Waters
I'll just quote the first post: "This is shit... Cliche after cliché"
Hell, they ain't even old-timey ! - Homer Stokes
If you're tryign to become a famous jazz musician now, I would think a certain blue police call box that's bigger on the inside would have to come into play.
(Seriously, are there any young famous jazz musicians?)
Esperanza Spalding?Originally Posted by GuitarGeek
It hurts, but it hurts with love.
Jazz schmazz
Still alive and well...
You have to be able to swing...
Do lots of drugs.
That sounds like a joke but it seems that many of the famous jazz musicians ruined their careers because of drugs. I once talked to a guy who was a well known jazz vocalist in the 30's, 40's and 50's. He said that drugs ruined his career. He talked about Ella and how he tried to "score"(drugs)with Miles Davis. http://www.jazzwax.com/2009/10/inter...yn-part-1.html
Do not suffer through the game of chance that plays....always doors to lock away your dreams (To Be Over)
Sorry, but as someone who spends a lot of time in the jazz world, that's the biggest load of horse puckies I've read in a long time, and typifies the worst kind of writing: pooh, look how clever I am!
Sorry, this kind of thing just gets under my skin. There are great musicians trying to make great music every day, and this kone of article simply demeans them and their work.
And no, it doesn't apply to Prog either. Both are marginalized genres, so if you make the choice to live in them, you must be cognizant of that. There are jazz musicians I know who are multimillionaires, jazz musicians who are middle income earners like yours truly, and jazz musicians who are barely scraping by. What does that prove? Being a jazz musician is lik being in any other profession....and how much you earn is not necessarily a reflection on talent ... But it can be.
But articles like this do nothing but denigrate and I see no value in that.
Rant over.
Well, depends on your definition of famous. On the jazz world? Sure. Brad Mehldau, Kurt Rosenwinkel, Brian Blade and Joshua Redman were all big names before they were 30. Ditto the Marsalis brothers.If you're tryign to become a famous jazz musician now, I would think a certain blue police call box that's bigger on the inside would have to come into play.
(Seriously, are there any young famous jazz musicians?)
Get a time machine... 1940s-1950s or so.
The author of this is a total ignorant dickbag.
I said that already.
But how many years ago are you talking about. I'm talking about now. How many famous jazz musicians are there under the age of 30 right this minute?!
Unfortunately, most of the commenters thought it was great or funny. And they jumped all over the guy who called it out rightly as the piece of shit article that it is.
How many famous 'prog' musicians are there under the age of 30 right this minute?
Steve F.
www.waysidemusic.com
www.cuneiformrecords.com
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“Remember, if it doesn't say "Cuneiform," it's not prog!” - THE Jed Levin
Any time any one speaks to me about any musical project, the one absolute given is "it will not make big money". [tip of the hat to HK]
"Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"
please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.
Do they have sarcasm on the planets that some of you are from?
Sarcasm is a poor substitute for humor. And besides, I could tell by some of the comments that some readers took this seriously.
Well, yeah, that too.How many famous 'prog' musicians are there under the age of 30 right this minute?
Agreed. It's trying to be clever by satirizing particular characteristics of jazz notoriety, but the writer is so dumb that he couldn't even pull that off competently. He appears to be trying to satirize critical acclaim, not being a "famous" jazz musician, as the article states in the beginning. In fact, the first thing that is suggested is to alienate the audience, which is a sure-fire way NOT to garner a broad appeal and thus become famous.
There may be some quality jokes to be made with the subject matter, but the writer doesn't make any of them.
I guess I needed to go see what a blue telephone box meant... yup.
framing it that way misses the point. Sarcasm at least implies the one cares about the subject matter. There is not even a hint of that in this article. What is readily apparent in the article is the worst kind of useless, self-absorbed cynicism that is all too prevalent in today's society.
It is not only very bad writing, it is also very lazy writing, trotting out the most well-worn clichés possible. It is also flippantly racist and sexist.
Yep. It read very much like a "I don't get it, so I'm gonna bash it" sort of thing. The writer is probably a person who does have an interest in music of some sort/s; just not jazz, apparently.
Dude, what rock have you been living under for the last 50 years?!The blue police call box is only one of the most significant items in pop culture (even if it took mainstream America 40 years to catch on).
Yes. but we have good sarcasm, not this poor excuse for it.
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