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    Very good list...many of my favorites there. However, my #1 of all time is A CLOCKWORK ORANGE, how could he not include that?
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    " 5. Schindler’s List

    Sad, but not the greatest, too many war propaganda movies that play on the hearts of movie goers instead of showing the real psychopaths behind the wars (Rothchilds, et. al)"


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    I'm assuming the Rothschild remark is yours? Rothschild is a bigger psycho than say, Hitler? Really now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adap2it View Post
    Very good list...many of my favorites there. However, my #1 of all time is A CLOCKWORK ORANGE, how could he not include that?
    Yeah, yet A Fish Called Wanda is on there. I enjoyed that a couple of times but it’s not exactly a classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy_n_chucky View Post
    One of the few prolific movie reviewers that mirrors a lot of my tastes in cinema
    http://www.reelviews.net/reelthought...ght_1524425989

    1. Patton
    2. Decalogue

    Excellent morality drama from Polish TV in the 80s based on the 10 commandments. Even Kubrick praised Krystof Kieslowski.

    3. Rear Window

    Saw this recently on cable, didn't pay attention much other than the cinematography.

    4. City Lights
    5. Schindler’s List

    Sad, but not the greatest, too many war propaganda movies that play on the hearts of movie goers instead of showing the real psychopaths behind the wars (Rothchilds, et. al)

    6. The Godfather

    A good gangster movie, I think Miller's Crossing is in my top 20 tho.

    7. Casablanca

    Over-rated, but for it's time I guess it's good. Saw this in the 90s when I was into color-only film.

    8. Raiders of the Lost Ark
    9. It’s a Wonderful Life

    * See Addendum

    10. A Fish Called Wanda
    11. Citizen Kane

    * Eh, might need to watch it again.

    12. Monty Python’s the Life of Brian
    13. Monty Python and the Holy Grail

    Over-rated British kitchsy humor.

    14. 2001: A Space Odyssey

    * Visually stunning, why can't they make movies like this anymore? or in the style of Tarkovsky/Hsaoa Hsien?

    15. Jean de Florette/Manon of the Spring

    * Amazing french series, one of the few movies that made me cry.

    16. Raging Bull

    * Not my favorite Scorcese movie, Goodfellas/Casino are higher.

    17. Dr. Strangelove
    * Just weird, but need to watch it again.

    18. Three Colors: Red

    * My favorite of the Color Trilogy

    19. Cinema Paradiso
    * Another tear jerking end

    20. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
    * Crap, I don't understand why Tolkien is one of the greatest writers. I much rather study the occult symbolism behind the books & movies which is much more fascinating.

    21. The Sweet Herafter

    * Not my favorite Atom Egoyan movie, Exotica is the best.

    22. Amadeus
    23. Raise the Red Lantern

    * I like Zhang Yimou's 80s-90s movies, Shanghai Triad is the best.

    24. My Fair Lady
    25. The War Zone
    * Great movie, Nil by Mouth is even better with Ray Winstone.

    26. The Bridge on the River Kawai
    27. Wages of Fear
    28. High Noon
    29. The Empire Strikes Back
    30. The Princess Bride
    31. The Up Series
    * Great series as ambitious as Richard Linklater's Trilogy or Boyhood (my favorite)

    32. Seven Samurai
    * Rented this on Netflix back when they first shipped DVDs by mail. The commentary was just as good as the movie.

    33. Chinatown
    34. Das Boot
    35. Rashomon
    36. Bonnie and Clyde
    37. Diabolique
    38. Do the Right Thing
    39. Goodfellas
    40. Sunset Blvd.
    41. The Hidden Fortress
    42. The World of Apu
    43. Dances with Wolves
    44. Singin’ in the Rain
    45. Aliens
    46. All About Eve
    47. Godfather 2, The
    48. Platoon
    49. Taxi Driver
    50. Glory
    51. Requiem for a Dream
    52. The Apartment
    53. Little Shop of Horrors (1986)
    54. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
    55. Star Wars
    56. Blue Velvet
    57. Jaws
    58. Beauty and the Beast
    59. The Untouchables
    60. Die Hard
    61. Grave of the Fireflies
    62. Glengarry Glen Ross
    * My favorite David Mamet movie. So many quotables.

    63. Time Bandits
    64. Gettysburg
    65. Nashville
    66. Memento
    67. Before Sunrise
    68. Yojimbo
    69. Nostferatu
    70. Before Midnight
    71. The Hustler
    72. Interstellar
    73. Cries and Whispers
    74. Un Coeur en Hiver
    * My favorite french movie with Emmanuelle Beart.

    75. The Third Man
    76. The Wizard of Oz
    77. This is Spinal Tap
    78. Halloween (1978)
    79. The 400 Blows
    80. The Wild Bunch
    81. Crumb
    * Robert Crumb, great documentary on the weird comic! Ghost World by Terry Zwigoff is better.

    82. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
    83. Hamlet (1996)
    84. Pulp Fiction
    85. To Kill a Mockingbird
    86. Like Father, Like Son
    87. The Departed
    88. Boyfriends and Girlfriends
    * I'm a fan of Eric Rohmer's walking and talking movies, they don't make movies like that anymore. Linklater is the closest comparison.

    89. Say Anything
    90. The Dark Knight
    91. Swept Away
    92. O.J.: Made in America
    93. Stop Making Sense
    94. Purple Noon
    95. The Natural
    96. Psycho
    97. Magnolia
    * Very depressing, but wonderful movie.

    98. Munich
    99. On the Waterfront
    100. The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover
    101. King Kong
    102. Lawrence of Arabia
    103. The Umbrellas of Cherbourg
    104. Manhattan
    105. Vertigo
    106. Dead Again
    107. When Harry Met Sally
    108. The Big Sleep
    109. Lost in Translation
    110. Once Were Warriors
    111. From Russia with Love
    112. Gone with the Wind
    113. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

    Apropos for our time when the US currency is volatile and crypto/bank failure could cause a major revolution


    American Film Institute ~ Most Inspiring Film
    #1 IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (1946)
    http://www.afi.com/100years/cheers.aspx

    AFI Announces 100 Greatest American Movies Of All Time
    #11 IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (1946)
    http://www.afi.com/100years/movies.aspx

    "I view this film as the single greatest piece of propaganda for fractional reserve bank fraud ever created. It irritates me that this sappy, gauzy schlock has become the mental touchstone for generations of people whenever they think about banking or the concept of a bank run. Most of all, I deeply resent the cultural 'cover' that this film has provided for a predatory and largely parasitic industry through the fact that it has successfully implanted into the American consciousness the pernicious fiction that banks, at their core, are essentially “just all of us working together and supporting each other” by sharing and lending the value we earn. [...] What an interesting Christmas miracle it would have been if George Bailey had told the truth about the bankstering classes"

    http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/5171/run-bank

    I'm just going to say it...I fucking hate lists like this. Far too dry, analytical (overly so in most cases) and just...soulless.

    It's one thing to like, even love movies...which I do. But to sit and study and analyze them in such a fashion to me takes all of the pleasure out of watching them.

    A friend of mine, massive movie buff once said his dream job would be a film critic...imagine, watching films for free every day.

    I briefly worked in/on the fringes of the film industry for a while. Watching such people drag themselves out of their comfy beds day after day, come rain or shine, resenting the fact that they had to watch certain movies not by choice but because they were paid to do so, was a sad spectacle.
    I only clicked on it because I thought it was going to be something more interesting...

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    There is so much wrong with that list. Namely:

    These movies in his "top 2%":

    5. Schindler's List. I wouldn't even put it in my top 100. IMO, Spielberg's best movie is Saving Private Ryan, which is also his last great movie, and even that had its problem (the coda). And everything he's made after War of the Worlds has been lacking something... which I can't quite put my finger on.
    8. Raiders of the Lost Ark. A very enjoyable movie, sure, but please.
    10. A Fish Called Wanda. Seriously? 10th?????
    20. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King. None of the LotR movies should be in anyone's top 100, imo.
    22. Amadeus. The best Milos Forman movie is One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
    24. My Fair Lady. C'mon. George Cukor's best movie is The Philadelphia Story.
    29. The Empire Strikes Back. The best of the Star Wars franchise. However, see Lord of the Rings.
    51. Requiem for a Dream. Darren Aronofsky is one of cinema's modern auteurs but this movie is one of the most depressing movies I've ever seen. His Pi and Black Swan are truly great movies and far superior to RfaD.
    53. Little Shop of Horrors (1986). OMG.
    55. Star Wars
    57. Jaws. Seems way too high.
    58. Beauty and the Beast. This is what he picks as Disney's greatest animated movie?
    59. The Untouchables
    60. Die Hard. This is just fucking laughable.
    61. Grave of the Fireflies. Anime? Seriously?
    63. Time Bandits. He ranks this higher than Brazil (Terry Gilliam's best, imo), The Fisher King, and 12 Monkeys?
    64. Gettysburg. Aside from the piss poor fake beards, the biggest problem with this movie was the casting.
    71. The Hustler. Definitely one of Paul Newman's best movies but nothing tops Cool Hand Luke.
    72. Interstellar
    73. Cries and Whispers. WHAT? I took a film studies course on Ingmar Bergman and while he is obviously one of cinema's greatest auteurs (seriously, pick just about any frame of any movie he's directed and you could frame it and hang it on your wall) I found his movies booooooooooring... with two exceptions: The Seventh Seal and Persona.
    81. Crumb. A good movie but there are loads of documentaries that are far superior.
    82. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
    87. The Departed
    89. Say Anything. Another OMG moment.
    90. The Dark Knight
    92. O.J.: Made in America. Wasn't even a theatrical movie.
    95. The Natural. A good baseball movie but I can think of a better one: For Love of the Game. Hell, I can't stand Kevin Costner and I thought Field of Dreams was better.
    97. Magnolia. Meh.
    98. Munich
    100. The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover
    105. Vertigo. One of Hitch's most overrated films, imo.
    107. When Harry Met Sally
    109. Lost in Translation. Personally, I think this was overrated.
    111. From Russia with Love
    113. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. The same as a LotR or Star Wars movie.

    Not to mention these movies ranked as high as they are:

    1. Patton
    12. Monty Python’s the Life of Brian
    13. Monty Python and the Holy Grail
    30. The Princess Bride

    And these movies ranked as low as they are:

    14. 2001: A Space Odyssey. My #1.
    17. Dr. Strangelove. My #2.
    39. Goodfellas. I'm not sure where I'd rank this in my top 100 (if I even had a list that long) but it feels a little too low to me.
    44. Singin’ in the Rain. I do not like musicals - I think they're stupid - but this is a fucking masterpiece!
    47. The Godfather 2. This is ranked way too low.
    49. Taxi Driver. Ditto!!! Especially considering this is Scorcese's best movie, imo.
    56. Blue Velvet. He finally mentions a David Lynch film (arguably America's 2nd greatest auteur) and it's ranked 56th.
    79. The 400 Blows. <scoffs> My #3.
    84. Pulp Fiction. I think this movie is pretty overrated but I'd still rank it higher than 84. At least, in his list.
    85. To Kill a Mockingbird. This is just fucking criminal.
    96. Psycho. My #8.
    102. Lawrence of Arabia. 102nd. lol!
    104. Manhattan. I don't know. If you're going to put Manhattan in your top 100, or whatever, it should rank higher, if only for the cinematography. Personally, I think Hannah and Her Sisters is Woody Allen's best movie. Followed by Annie Hall, of course.

    And then, of course, are the omissions of some great filmmakers and writers (in alphabetical order):
    Coen Bros.
    David Fincher
    John Ford
    John Huston
    Charlie Kaufman, whose Adaptation is absolutely brilliant. He also wrote Being John Malkovich and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
    Buster Keaton
    Fritz Lang. One letter: M!
    Sidney Lumet
    Jean Renoir
    Alain Resnais
    Vittorio De Sica
    Denis Villeneuve
    “From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away.” – Philip Marlowe

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    Schindler's List is a stone cold classic

    I dont care what any conspiracy theory nuts say. The holocaust was REAL
    Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?

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    I always wonder why Takashi Mike's Audition doesn't make these lists....

  8. #7433
    Quote Originally Posted by Hal... View Post
    There is so much wrong with that list. Namely:

    These movies in his "top 2%":

    5. Schindler's List. I wouldn't even put it in my top 100. IMO, Spielberg's best movie is Saving Private Ryan, which is also his last great movie, and even that had its problem (the coda). And everything he's made after War of the Worlds has been lacking something... which I can't quite put my finger on.
    8. Raiders of the Lost Ark. A very enjoyable movie, sure, but please.
    10. A Fish Called Wanda. Seriously? 10th?????
    20. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King. None of the LotR movies should be in anyone's top 100, imo.
    22. Amadeus. The best Milos Forman movie is One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
    24. My Fair Lady. C'mon. George Cukor's best movie is The Philadelphia Story.
    29. The Empire Strikes Back. The best of the Star Wars franchise. However, see Lord of the Rings.
    51. Requiem for a Dream. Darren Aronofsky is one of cinema's modern auteurs but this movie is one of the most depressing movies I've ever seen. His Pi and Black Swan are truly great movies and far superior to RfaD.
    53. Little Shop of Horrors (1986). OMG.
    55. Star Wars
    57. Jaws. Seems way too high.
    58. Beauty and the Beast. This is what he picks as Disney's greatest animated movie?
    59. The Untouchables
    60. Die Hard. This is just fucking laughable.
    61. Grave of the Fireflies. Anime? Seriously?
    63. Time Bandits. He ranks this higher than Brazil (Terry Gilliam's best, imo), The Fisher King, and 12 Monkeys?
    64. Gettysburg. Aside from the piss poor fake beards, the biggest problem with this movie was the casting.
    71. The Hustler. Definitely one of Paul Newman's best movies but nothing tops Cool Hand Luke.
    72. Interstellar
    73. Cries and Whispers. WHAT? I took a film studies course on Ingmar Bergman and while he is obviously one of cinema's greatest auteurs (seriously, pick just about any frame of any movie he's directed and you could frame it and hang it on your wall) I found his movies booooooooooring... with two exceptions: The Seventh Seal and Persona.
    81. Crumb. A good movie but there are loads of documentaries that are far superior.
    82. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
    87. The Departed
    89. Say Anything. Another OMG moment.
    90. The Dark Knight
    92. O.J.: Made in America. Wasn't even a theatrical movie.
    95. The Natural. A good baseball movie but I can think of a better one: For Love of the Game. Hell, I can't stand Kevin Costner and I thought Field of Dreams was better.
    97. Magnolia. Meh.
    98. Munich
    100. The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover
    105. Vertigo. One of Hitch's most overrated films, imo.
    107. When Harry Met Sally
    109. Lost in Translation. Personally, I think this was overrated.
    111. From Russia with Love
    113. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. The same as a LotR or Star Wars movie.

    Not to mention these movies ranked as high as they are:

    1. Patton
    12. Monty Python’s the Life of Brian
    13. Monty Python and the Holy Grail
    30. The Princess Bride

    And these movies ranked as low as they are:

    14. 2001: A Space Odyssey. My #1.
    17. Dr. Strangelove. My #2.
    39. Goodfellas. I'm not sure where I'd rank this in my top 100 (if I even had a list that long) but it feels a little too low to me.
    44. Singin’ in the Rain. I do not like musicals - I think they're stupid - but this is a fucking masterpiece!
    47. The Godfather 2. This is ranked way too low.
    49. Taxi Driver. Ditto!!! Especially considering this is Scorcese's best movie, imo.
    56. Blue Velvet. He finally mentions a David Lynch film (arguably America's 2nd greatest auteur) and it's ranked 56th.
    79. The 400 Blows. <scoffs> My #3.
    84. Pulp Fiction. I think this movie is pretty overrated but I'd still rank it higher than 84. At least, in his list.
    85. To Kill a Mockingbird. This is just fucking criminal.
    96. Psycho. My #8.
    102. Lawrence of Arabia. 102nd. lol!
    104. Manhattan. I don't know. If you're going to put Manhattan in your top 100, or whatever, it should rank higher, if only for the cinematography. Personally, I think Hannah and Her Sisters is Woody Allen's best movie. Followed by Annie Hall, of course.

    And then, of course, are the omissions of some great filmmakers and writers (in alphabetical order):
    Coen Bros.
    David Fincher
    John Ford
    John Huston
    Charlie Kaufman, whose Adaptation is absolutely brilliant. He also wrote Being John Malkovich and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
    Buster Keaton
    Fritz Lang. One letter: M!
    Sidney Lumet
    Jean Renoir
    Alain Resnais
    Vittorio De Sica
    Denis Villeneuve
    Another reason I hate such lists...most people usually disagree with them anyway.

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    I think we should all list our top 100 or 200 films. Then we should all quote each other so this thread is just filled with these huge quotes...

    Just a few brief words instead.

    Patton #1 lol! I love that movie too but that is absurd.

    No Apocalyspe Now? OJ Made in America?

    He's got a lot of good movies on his list, some I bet we all share, but all this guy does for a living is watch movies. This is the best he can come up with? His life's work?

    Just another guy with his opinion, same as us really.
    “Where words fail, music speaks.” - Hans Christian Anderson

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeonKnight View Post

    Just another guy with his opinion, same as us really.

    This!
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    Watched an old sci-fi movie last night. The Puppet Masters, based on a Heinlein work, in which Donald Sutherland takes on Metallica to save mankind.

    We're trying to build a monument to show that we were here
    It won't be visible through the air
    And there won't be any shade to cool the monument to prove that we were here. - Gene Parsons, 1973

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    Totally Fucked Up: Films That Disturb and Offend

    Quote Originally Posted by arabicadabra View Post
    I always wonder why Takashi Mike's Audition doesn't make these lists....
    *cough*

    [posted in a different forum, listing titles that I've seen]


    Totally Fucked Up: Films That Disturb and Offend
    http://www.listal.com/list/totally-f...-films-disturb

    Titles I've seen / * Blurb

    3. Ichi the Killer (2001)

    pretty awesome violence, loved the bloodspats everywhere were the geek goes 'over the top'

    4. Audition (1999)

    Saw it through Netflix, Not too interesting until the tables were turned near the end.

    12. Enter the Void (2009)

    Saw it at a nurse's apartment, she recorded it on DVR for me. I've done DMT before (in the form of ayahuasca) so I 'get' the visuals. The camera scenes moving along the city seem to drag too long.

    24. Blue Velvet (1986)

    Saw it in college, roomate taped it on VCR. Weird, don't remember it much but the ear, and the gas mask or sth

    25. Pink Floyd: The Wall (1982)

    Saw it stoned on pot at a stripper's house thinking 'how the fuck did they do those animations' in the early 80s???

    29. Lost Highway (1997)

    College roomate lent it to me on VCR. Don't remember it much, very weird.

    30. Man Bites Dog (1992)

    Saw it in college after a french engineering student told me to rent it, we watched it in the college dorm, gahhh the 2nd rape scene I've seen at this time. The funniest part was when the serial killer got drunk and was singing...Cinema! From Coast to Coast...

    32. Caligula (1979)

    Saw it a few years ago, gay bartender let me watch his copy on DVD. A rare thing to have, he told me. Visually stunning to say the least.

    35. Pink Flamingos (1972)

    Saw it at the Enzian theater in Orlando, I remember taking a college buddy to see it and we had to sign a waiver at the box office. Funniest scene was the Divine poop eating thing and when the guy opened and closed his anus in front of the camera.

    36. I Spit on Your Grave (1978)

    Ugh, so shocking....the heroine in the movie is a true anarchist in every sense of the word. True justice in the OT sense ~ an eye for an eye, dick for a dick

    41. The Exorcist (1973)

    Saw it in college, VCR, yes I was spooked as I was still a fundamentalist christian back then

    42. Mysterious Skin (2004)

    Saw parts of it with a gay roomate, maybe he was bi cuz he slept with his female friend. He said it was the 'story of my life'

    43. The Cook, the Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover (1989)

    College back when 16,000 videos was still in business. Don't remember it well.

    46. Deliverance (1972)

    A retired insurance saleman let me borrow it on DVD. Classic, make you squeal like a pig. Made a lot more sense if you know S&M

    49. The Last Temptation of Christ (1988)

    College with a viatnamese christian buddy, who wanted to see it but was afraid to see it alone. Was slightly offended by it.

    50. Midnight Cowboy (1969)

    Nurse's DVD, 'story of my life' haha, kinda.

    51. Last Tango in Paris (1972)

    College days...yeah weird at the end, the sex scenes

    52. The Deer Hunter (1978)

    Loved it, played on IFC and watched it a few times. I was quite amazed on how many ways it touched my heart.

    58. The Story of O (1975)

    Had to rent it from a porn shop in Orlando, rare on VCR at the time. Saw a few episodes, first time seeing BDSM on a film. My female friend was a used bookstore clerk by day, dominatrix by night.

    65. The Panic in Needle Park (1971)

    Saw parts of it on IFC, didn't know it was Pacino's first film. That's heroin junkie behavior for you. Read William Burrough Junky in NYC which helped me understand 'junk'

    68. Lolita (1997)

    Saw parts of it on cable, Jeremy Irons plays some messed up characters in movies.

    71. Oldboy (2003)

    Fight scenes were awesome, some parts of the movie dragged too much. Rough sex was kinda disturbing

    80. A Clockwork Orange (1971)

    Saw it in college, my first roomate was Catholic and told me to watch it. Rape scene offended me, 1st time seeing something like that in film.

    81. Saw (2004)

    A girl said loved all of them. Saw up to parts 3, umm I watched it because she wanted to.

    82. Requiem for a Dream (2000)

    Saw this in Kansas City in the theaters. Visually stunning.

    86. Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me (1992)

    College, had to see it after being absorbed by the TV series. I think the TV series seemed better than this one.

    Kids (1995)

    Saw it via Netflix. Shocking, a bunch of NYC kids with nothing better to do than be bums, party, smoke weed, and fuck. The STD subtext was disturbing.

    Bully (2001)

    Saw it at Kansas City theater. The first time I had a anxiety attack during a movie, this was around the time I was smoking weed. Happened during the arcade scene where they were tripping on some psychedelic, had to leave and come back.

    Gummo (1997)

    Funny as fuck white trash humor. I LOLed at the arm wrassling scene and when that hick destroyed the poor folding chair.

    Hostel (2005)

    Ugh, what was the point? Shock value I guess. Seen the second version too. I think during the Middle ages shit like this happened, torture, flaying n shit.

    The Passion of the Christ (2004)

    Last but not least saw it at the Christian Concentration Camp. Seeing Jesus beaten to a bloody pulp was probably the most violent movie in the library. It was an ok movie, I can see why Christians love this though.

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    THE BANDWIDTH BANDIT!!

    what a concept.....again
    "My choice early in life was either to be a piano player in a whorehouse or a politician, and to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference"

    President Harry S. Truman

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    Totally Fucked Up: Films That Disturb and Offend
    I have seen many of these films. They were designed to disturb the viewer. And the best of them did. I was offended by none of the ones I saw. Offense is in the mind of the viewer. Several of these movies would go on my list of best ever. To each his own.
    We're trying to build a monument to show that we were here
    It won't be visible through the air
    And there won't be any shade to cool the monument to prove that we were here. - Gene Parsons, 1973

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    ^^^ I've seen every one of those with the exception of Ichi The Killer, Mysterious Skin, The Story Of O, Bully and Gummo.

    When I think of disturbing films, the ones that always spring to mind are Irreversible, A Serbian Film, Suicide Circle, Gunwoman, I Saw The Devil, Martyrs, Audition, etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycsteve View Post
    " 5. Schindler’s List

    Sad, but not the greatest, too many war propaganda movies that play on the hearts of movie goers instead of showing the real psychopaths behind the wars (Rothchilds, et. al)"

    [...]

    I'm assuming the Rothschild remark is yours? Rothschild is a bigger psycho than say, Hitler? Really now.
    Yep, and I could argue why that is true too. Not the place or the time for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Mail View Post
    I'm just going to say it...I fucking hate lists like this. Far too dry, analytical (overly so in most cases) and just...soulless.

    It's one thing to like, even love movies...which I do. But to sit and study and analyze them in such a fashion to me takes all of the pleasure out of watching them.

    A friend of mine, massive movie buff once said his dream job would be a film critic...imagine, watching films for free every day.

    I briefly worked in/on the fringes of the film industry for a while. Watching such people drag themselves out of their comfy beds day after day, come in or shine, resenting the fact that they had to watch certain movies not by choice but because they were paid to do so, was a sad spectacle.
    Lists are a way to narrow down what to watch or not. Nowadays TV/streaming services has arguably better programming than movies released on the Big Screen with over 500+ shows to watch which would be a near impossible feat. So how do you determine what to watch or what not to? Quentin Tarantino mentioned something on a podcast that there is something lost by going to Netflix and checking out movies. Back in the day...the college days...watching movies had more of an investment. You had to get out of home, drive to your local video store, browse the titles, and pick out a few movies. Then if it was a specialty video store a clerk would recommend a title you wouldn't normally watch, so you'd make interesting discoveries by word of mouth. I remember my roomate would take a bunch of girls to the video store, pick out a chick flick by consensus, come back and watch it all together. That is missing in this day and age.

    I had limited time back in college, spend most of my time devouring prog rock. So I would read reviews before even watching the movies. Roger Ebert & Gene Siskel's Movie reviews were influential in what I'd watch. Then Usenet came along and that's where I first read James Bernardinelli's reviews which was pretty amazing how great of a writer he was (earning praise from Ebert) while working a 'real' job as an electrical engineer. So it baffled me how someone could have so much time to even watch movies let alone write detailed reviews.

    And now people stay home and don't get out much which is sad to me. Maybe it's because I never got married or wanted to have kids, so I yearn for meeting new people and finding people who watched the same movies as I have. I go to a local kava bar and meet such people which I'd never would have these conversations in an alcoholic bar. I'd like to even bring back a movie discussion night at a local community center or yoga studio just to get people out of their homes and away from their smart-devices and back to the lost art of communication, conversation face-to-face.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hal... View Post
    63. Time Bandits. He ranks this higher than Brazil (Terry Gilliam's best, imo), The Fisher King, and 12 Monkeys?
    Agreed on Brazil.

    73. Cries and Whispers. WHAT? I took a film studies course on Ingmar Bergman and while he is obviously one of cinema's greatest auteurs (seriously, pick just about any frame of any movie he's directed and you could frame it and hang it on your wall) I found his movies booooooooooring... with two exceptions: The Seventh Seal and Persona.
    Only saw Wild Strawberries and I thought it was kinda boring, but need to re-watch it again someday.

    81. Crumb. A good movie but there are loads of documentaries that are far superior.
    I find the best documentaries these days are not widely released. Many of them are on Youtube or Vimeo.

    The filmmaker, Michel Negroponte uploaded the entire documentary online. This is an excellent followup to his HBO special "Methadonia" which follows methadone addicts in NYC. Although I never been a drug addict or into alcohol, I've been around addicts from street hustlers, to strippers, and dungeon workers and had a co-dependency issue with someone addicted to pills and coke.

    Synopsis: "I'M DANGEROUS WITH LOVE is about addiction and rehabilitation, activism and shamanism. It's the story of Dimitri, who started out as the heavily addicted front man for the band Leisure Class, then ended his long drug and alcohol addiction five years ago with an experimental treatment that used the hallucinogen ibogaine.

    African shamans have used ibogaine in their rituals for centuries, but in the U.S. it is a Schedule 1 controlled substance. Dimitri now very illegally takes addicts through the same detox that he says saved his life.

    I'M DANGEROUS WITH LOVE is an underground adventure that traces Dimitri's risky journey as he treats desperate drug users. He is a man of edgy energy going from one addict to the next without stopping to catch his breath."

    https://vimeo.com/147653704


    Directors: Albert Hughes, Allen Hughes

    Summary: "Street pimps, all of them African-American, discuss their lives and work: getting started, being flamboyant, pimping in various U.S. cities, bringing a woman into their group, taking a woman from another pimp, and the rules and regulations of pimping. The men are clear: it's about money. The women work every night, hustle hard, turn over all their earnings, and steal anything they can from clients. We meet a few of the women, who tell us what they want from a pimp. We also listen to a women who's legally employed at a Nevada brothel; we meet her White boss, a legal pimp. He and the street pimps, some of whom are now retired, make the case for legalizing the trade."

    References:

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x87kjp
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0179074/

    Followup to American Pimp:

    From the time to conception to birth,
    man spends the first 9 months
    of his existence trying to escape the
    odious stench and umbilical restraints of a pussy

    alas upon man's predetermined escape
    he spends the entirety of his existence
    trying to re-enter the confines of the womb ~ Jimi Starr
    P ~ Properly
    I ~ Inspiring
    M ~ (and) Managing
    P ~ Prostitutes

    feat. The Godfather Filmore Slim, Kenny Red, Rosebudd Bitterdose, Original Whitefolks, Gangsta Brown, International Bleu, Mr. SharpGame, Young Ron, et. al
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV2UrJZI8tA

    edit: need to change my 'you' into 'I'

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy_n_chucky View Post
    Totally Fucked Up: Films That Disturb and Offend
    I've seen half of those movies and, imo, the only ones worth seeing are: Audition, Andalusion Dog, Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, Lost Highway, The Machinist, The Exorcist, Deliverance, and Straw Dogs. The rest are either stupid, gratuitous, or just not that interesting.

    One of the most disturbing movies I've seen that's not on that list, is Zoo (2007). I happened to catch it on the Sundance channel, not knowing anything about it. It's a really well made documentary. The narrative is like a mystery, where details are slowly revealed, which pulls you into the movie. Unfortunately. The subject is very disturbing. Not recommended.
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    > 53. Little Shop of Horrors (1986). OMG.

    LOL - I didn't even notice this one in there! It's Rick Moranis' greatest performance! Only 52 movies are better than it.

    Yeah, these lists are pretty stupid, I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal... View Post
    I've seen half of those movies and, imo, the only ones worth seeing are: Audition, Andalusion Dog, Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, Lost Highway, The Machinist, The Exorcist, Deliverance, and Straw Dogs. The rest are either stupid, gratuitous, or just not that interesting.
    Not a fan of Requiem For A Dream?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    > 53. Little Shop of Horrors (1986). OMG.

    LOL - I didn't even notice this one in there! It's Rick Moranis' greatest performance!
    You blaspheme against Vinz Clortho!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arabicadabra View Post
    I always wonder why Takashi Mike's Audition doesn't make these lists....
    Same for Peter Jackson's Bad Taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal... View Post
    I've seen half of those movies and, imo, the only ones worth seeing are: Audition, Andalusion Dog, Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, Lost Highway, The Machinist, The Exorcist, Deliverance, and Straw Dogs. The rest are either stupid, gratuitous, or just not that interesting.
    Your opinion. A Clockwork Orange and Requiem for a Dream are awesome movies. You don't have to like them, but you're just inviting argument and debate by dismissing them. And how does one not like Oldboy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hal... View Post
    One of the most disturbing movies I've seen that's not on that list, is Zoo (2007). I happened to catch it on the Sundance channel, not knowing anything about it. It's a really well made documentary. The narrative is like a mystery, where details are slowly revealed, which pulls you into the movie. Unfortunately. The subject is very disturbing. Not recommended.
    Since you write of it so highly, I looked it up. Ah, an alternate title is: Zoofilia. It concerns an "encounter" with a horse that ultimately proved fatal. No, I shall not partake.

    But I AM going to post this review from the landing page for the movie.

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    It's as if the creators of Zoo attempted to legitimize bestiality by depicting it as some sort of mystical nature-bonding experience.

    Actors portray the story of the events leading up to and following Kenneth Pinyan's death, as snippets from interviews with those involved are used to narrate.

    The film has a surreal, dark feel accomplished by the use of abstract camera work, dim lighting, and a soundtrack that sounds like it was produced by Boards of Canada. Though these techniques produce a somewhat interesting aesthetic for the film, they feel like a feeble attempt to mystify or romanticize the world of horse f*cking.

    Despite the film's attempts to create a surreal, brooding atmosphere and the grizzly facts of the story, the absurdity of the film's subject matter is at times laughably funny. In one memorable scene, news helicopters circle the farm of two Zoophiles. Knowing the gig is up, one man grabs a bucket of horse porn and runs frantically into the horizon. I nearly fell off the couch laughing.

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    Watched the recent Blu-ray of "The Passenger" this afternoon. This is a tremendous release. Antonioni is becoming one of my favorite directors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy_n_chucky View Post
    There's a Hillary Clinton snuff film circulating the Dark Web, but I won't post that since it can be censored as 'hate speech'. Facebook/Youtube/Google has been censoring it because if enough people found out the truth, the psychopathic pedophiles would be running for their fucking lives.
    I call TROLL.
    You joined last month and have dropped several veiled political, right wing comments such as this in this thread. These comments , I believe , are designed to insight argument. Couple this with the recent joining of the forum = troll.

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