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    2013 Progresssive Music Awards...

    Lifetime Achievement goes to Dave Brock!

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    Limelight - Sound Of Contact
    Anthem - Von Hertzen Bros
    Storm Thorgerson Grand Design goes to........Family!!!!
    Breakthrough goes to........Big Big Train
    Live Event - Steve Hackett Genesis Revisited
    Album - Steven Wilson
    Band Marillion
    Virtuoso - Mike Portnoy
    Visionary - Steve Hillage
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    I love that they're doing this. Prog magazine (along with many others, including this site, of course) has done a tremendous amount to spread the rising force that is prog. Whether or not anyone agrees with who "wins" the awards, it's a great way to create community amongst the veterans and newbies of prog -- both the musicians and the fans. So good to see musicians coming together in this way and actually getting cheered on. And I'm sure they have a lot of fun.

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    Personally I hate awards shows for artistic endeavors but given that congratulations to Dave Brock & Steve Hillage. Do they know Big Big Train have been in existence for 20 years?
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    Virtuoso - Mike Portnoy ? Yes he's good. Prolific would be a better description.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    Personally I hate awards shows for artistic endeavors but given that congratulations to Dave Brock & Steve Hillage. Do they know Big Big Train have been in existence for 20 years?
    Probably why it's not a "rookie" award, or "newcomer" award - breakthrough implies that they finally have success after much hard work.
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    Outside of Prog writting about the awards for three issues straight, I don't see too much value in these. Just about every active prog band scores a nomination. When the winners are announced, it's nothing surprising. I'm not sure anyone outside of the Prog Magazine readership even knows (or cares) about these awards. I did like seeing all the pictures from last year though and to read through the resulting interviews.

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    Was a fun evening! And got to have a chat with Gail Zappa too...which as a hardcore Zappa freak was pretty mental

    Congrats to all the winners!

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    Regardless of what one things of the awards or the process, must be great to actually attend.

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    Hey I'm all for a free chicken dinner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    Personally I hate awards shows for artistic endeavors but given that congratulations to Dave Brock & Steve Hillage. Do they know Big Big Train have been in existence for 20 years?
    My thoughts exacly.

    A totally pointless excercise in backslapping that will degenerate into an X-Factor/American Idol affair

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    Let me start by saying that I do not subscribe to PROG magazine. I find it the equivalent of an archaeological dig for remants of the "glory days" of Progressive music.

    BUT - this event does give them the opportunity to get the genre a higher profile. Even the BBC has managed to put out articles. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23881382

    The biggest challenge facing any musician right now is to get their product out there. There is so much music being created, it is difficult for artists to reach an audience. If this helps get the word out there that there is new music being created, then surely these awards can only be a good thing.

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    Prog mag isn't just about reliving the glory days. If anything, I think too much of the magazine is devoted to new bands that you will never hear of again. The mag is probably 60 percent New band's. Many are lousy but they are new. And the free CD is mostly newer Bands as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robh View Post
    I find it the equivalent of an archaeological dig for remants of the "glory days" of Progressive music.
    That is actually a cracking statement and one that applies to most of the recipients of the awards

    Apart from the best album the rest is a throw back to the glory days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toothyspook View Post
    A totally pointless excercise in backslapping that will degenerate into an X-Factor/American Idol affair
    Statements like this make me wonder what kind of world some folks here are living in - because it's not the same as mine.
    Agree with results or don't; buy the magazine or don't. But it seems like a pure simple fact that neither Prog magazine nor the musicians they encourage are getting riches and unbridled fame.
    It seems to me that having a thoroughly professional and adequately marketed full-scale magazine out there and advocating the music we all love is nothing but a good thing, and any annual awards where the likes of Big Big Train, Steven Wilson, Marillion and Steve Hackett are getting lauded on the newsstands of local newsagents is to be celebrated.

    So there :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toothyspook View Post
    that applies to most of the recipients of the awards
    Apart from the best album the rest is a throw back to the glory days
    Hang on, Steven Wilson's 'Raven' is without doubt the most retro-sounding top album of the year - I love it, but it couldn't be more a tribute to early 70s King Crimson and Yes if it tried.
    Well, ok, Hackett's Genesis Revisited II is nostalgic though a modern lens as well (and Wilson guests on it...)

    Whereas Sound of Contact, Big Big Train, Von Hertzen Brothers, most of Mike Portnoy's projects and even Marillion (these days) don't sound much like attempts to emulate the so-called "Glory Days" to me...

    I guess our perspectives couldn't be more diametrically opposed. Ah well, variety is the spice of life, eh? :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodie View Post
    I guess our perspectives couldn't be more diametrically opposed. Ah well, variety is the spice of life, eh? :-)
    Fair comment.

    Your comments on 'Raven' though are exactly the way I think when I listen to BBT

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    Steve Hillage wins Visonary award.

    Steve left "Prog Music" behind years ago.

    Truley progressive in my world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toothyspook View Post
    A totally pointless excercise in backslapping that will degenerate into an X-Factor/American Idol affair
    I don't even understand what this means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robh View Post
    BUT - this event does give them the opportunity to get the genre a higher profile. Even the BBC has managed to put out articles. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23881382

    Excellent point.

    Awards of almost every non-sporting variety are glorified, self-serving, predictable.. The magazine, which I subscribe to, is one big advertisement, and very, very calculated at which bands they will cover. Obvious love affair with Mr. Wilson, and look no further... Is it no surprise that Sound of Contact won the newcomer?

    BUT for whatever reason, the Prog Awards get pretty good press in the UK, which only helps the/someone's cause.
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    You are a bloomin miserable bunch sometimes! You complain that this kind of music doesnt get coverage and when it actually does (and its a really excellent event too) cannot wait to "poo poo " it-- sour grapes I reckon!

    Jerry has a hard job between Supporting new music and commercial reality of consistent "sales and I think his team gives a lot of coverage to the new bands whatever label or self released situation they are in. he does in all honesty expect someone whether big or small in terms of "name" to have got their "sh**" together and that means decent photos, biog, music thats been put together pretty well in most cases but thats because it makes better copy and they dont have the time to be spoonfeeding.Give the team a break, Ive seen how hard they work over there.. and that event is really well put together and I think fantastic for all the bands and people in this niche market.

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    Don't let a couple dissenters color this thread. This event is a good thing for the prog world in general. Anything that elevates it's profile a bit is a win. It's put on by a good bunch of people too. Some of the comments in this thread are so off the mark it's hard to take them seriously. And I don't...

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    Another nice touch...every person at the awards was given a CD of totally unsigned prog artists amongst a bunch of freebie bits and bobs. No way of saying how many will go on to listen, but it demonstrated to me a real sense of support for bands at a grassroots level.

    Matt.

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    I don't see anything bad about it, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esoteric View Post
    You are a bloomin miserable bunch sometimes! <snip>
    What she said, QFT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    Don't let a couple dissenters color this thread.
    Right on -- Jerry and Prog Magazine deserve huge credit for flying the freak flag high and making a good go of it. Whatever anyone thinks of the magazine or the awards, I think it's fantastic to have someone publicly championing this genre and I feel very grateful this continues to exist, grow and thrive; we all know first-hand how something you love can be lost in an instant and is only truly appreciated after the fact. I hope Jerry and the team continue to grow and be around for many, many years to come.

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