Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally
Still hate growled vocals with a passion. In some rare instances I can tolerate some, but only if it doesn't dominate the music. When layered with clean vocals, in can work, again, in small doeses. On it's own, I just think it sounds retarded. Never heard an example yet where I think it helps the music any. Aside from just sounding dumb to my ears, it also does not allow for any kind of vocal melodies. It ends up even more monotone than rapped vocals. I'm no lyric guy, so not understanding the words is not a problem. But I can't imagine people who are heavily into the lyrical aspect of music would even want to hear any death growling.
I used to have the CD this song is on: Forest Stream: Tears of Mortal Solitude (received it to review, when I was doing that regularly). these vocals don't bother me.
Several years ago I saw Stolen Babies (and In This Moment) open for co-headliners Within Temptation and Lacuna Coil. I'd never heard Stolen Babies before and was blown away. they're very theatrical both visually and musically, and damn good. I thought they and Within Temptation stole the show. For me, ITM was a letdown after SB, especially with their choreographed headbanging.
from the SB bio @iTunes: "Drawing their inspiration from sources as varied as Mr. Bungle, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Oingo Boingo, Cradle of Filth, and the Dresden Dolls, Los Angeles, CA's Stolen Babies offer up a sonic mishmash that they themselves describe as "prog-pop-cabaret-thrashquirky-goth-rock.""
Actually, here's a little bit of SB at the very show I attended:
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Here's an example:
What Daemon is saying:
Storm Detonation
[Musick: Zamoth/ Destructhor]
Manifestation of the Storm Detonation.
Abandonment, renunciation, nuclear abrasion.
Maximum reality, ultimate reality.
What do you long for, Doomsday or Alienation?
The first and the last of global warnings,
as in withered ill-willed spirit.
Psychic dweller,
fearing the lies that surround you like a mental grip.
Aborticide as altruistic moral.
Backflashes from a past that once was,
memories from another day.
A depleted human race.
An echo that reflects and consolidates the super-humaneous will.
Will to Power,
Call to Power.
Utopian abattoir, a derisive reality.
Clouds, embracing the highland of earth,
as shadows from another time,
predicting the depredations of Terra Mater.
Tell the tale of a grand magnificent new world.
Tell the tale of a thousand years.
Tell the tale of the Storm Detonation,
manifested in every fatalistic soul,
asking if you want Doomsday or Alienation
What Apollyon is saying:
1. Trenches
[Lyrics by Apollyon]
First kill-winterdeath
With silence she fell
White funeral
Freeze
Long did you wait
For insanity's tomb
With all your heart
Unleashed doom
Razorsharp chants
Blackens your skull
Forcing you down towards hell
And the shadows you dread
Be the survivor
In need of no sun
Embrace demons envision the dead
Corpselike cold
Mesmerizing hands
Touching your fear
...of the obscure
Ride the night
With vicious lust
Strive to die
To serve
Grant your life
To reluctant minds
Infernal deeds are ripe
Awaiting you
Ride the night
At any cost
Join with those in black
The sordid few
Take from us the cross of sin
Let the sinister begin
Spread the branches and you'll see
The land is plagued by me
Leave your dreams upon this night
We have sworn to take your side
The break of dawn it will show you
That troops from hell are due
Some of what Herr Schmitt is saying:
Durch Schatten der Nacht...
henlende Reier, bekleidetes,
kaltes Stahl verpassen spukhaite Ugen.
Maschinenmut, todgeborene Futijernung...
Iodeslied; Bermalmung-Skelett-Schmutz.
"Alienated-so alien I go!"
That Pablo Francisco video was hilarious. I've bought t-shirts at Hot Topic.
Rune, that's the stuff! It's funny, I actually did get the lyric sheet and asked the guy playing the nerd who got all the words right to memorize it, but he just couldn't get it for the life of him, so he wound up improvising anything that sounded gruesome: "Guts on the floor, chicken faces glutinate!" I doubt anybody knew the difference.
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I can understand the difficulty in trying to remember. I just figure, if I don't know the lyrics, just go "RRRRRRRRRUUUUUHHHHHRRRRR!!!!!!" or "DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE". no metal head ever challenges you on it anyway-probably because they are too wasted to know it as well...
Shame you did not do one on deciphering band logos too...
"Alienated-so alien I go!"
Figured this was as good a thread as any to plop these down. They're Dethklok songs (cartoon death metal band on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim) with alternative animation starring Batman, Robin, Nightwing and Red Hood as the band, with a solo by Red Robin in the second video. Oddly enough, the lyrics translate to the whole Batman universe very well.
I turn it off if accidently exposed. Never liked them, most likely never will.
Love Dethklok! I wish I could get the last season to see what happens
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"Alienated-so alien I go!"
and there is the prog connection w/Dethklok. maybe not the music itself but Bryan Beller, Mike Keneally, Pete Griffin and Gene Hoglan have been band members either studio or live since 2007 and later. Hoglan is best known for his work with Strapping Young Lad and Devin Townsend. he was also good friends with Michelle Meldrum who started her first band Wargod with Gene before joining Phantom Blue...later marrying John Norum of Europe and forming Meldrum with Gene contributing on some of those albums as well. Michelle passed away on May 21st 2008. she was 39...RIP Michelle
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I like 'em in Opeth, especially the contrast with clean vocals. I have heard them in other bands, but so far only like them in Opeth.
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I've really gotten to enjoy black metal vocals, more than ever. Less "beast" than DM and more evil "demon/witch". Maybe some screaming similar to grindcore/other extreme stuff.
I've listened to the band Death on YT. The vocals are tolerable because the music is technical and heavy, and very cool. RIP Chuck.
Before the pandemic, my band and I would do a Death Metal parody. We'd play fast heavy riffs, and I would growl "Cookies.......me want cookies.....num num num num num cookies."
"Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"--Dalai Lama
Listened to Death Scream Bloody Gore last night....haven't heard that album much. The guitar parts of these albums are always so rippin'. Its fascinating just to listen to the guitar parts sometimes.
Wolfgang had the best growled vocals I ever heard.
Seeing Atilla and Mayhem doing De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas in full a few years ago was a hell of a thing (excuse the pun). And he is always entertaining with Sunn O))) where he's arguably even more out front, despite the not-insignificant volume.
With some of the later black metal, especially the more atmospheric stuff like Wolves in the Throne Room and Sadness, the vocals almost take a whispered tone that really resonates with me.
I love Deafheaven, although despite the vocal style being very black metal, the music is anything but. Ordinary Corrupt Human Love is a desert island disc for me, and one of the few metal albums to almost move me to tears when I heard it the first time
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Talk about raising a thread from the dead!! I still love growled vocals, rap and hip-hop, chanting, screaming (Galas and others), yodeling, throat singing, melodic singing (clean), and most all other forms of vocalization. Most importantly, I love to explore and sample before discounting entire genres based on one aspect.
Duncan's going to make a Horns Emoticon!!!
oh so now you like them!
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