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    Insomnia thread.

    I've had sleep problems since i could remember. Always a light sleeper, combined with my ears ability to home in on any sound (a fantastic gift as musician but a fantastic obstacle to sleep too). Having tinitus does not help either and the last years my ears have gotten oversensitive to certain sounds too....

    ....oh how i envy those of you who can sleep a whole night without interruption...

    Other insomniacs here?
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    I've gone through several bouts of insomnia in my life, mostly related to my panic disorder. It's awful. I wouldn't wish sleeplessness on anyone.

    I also have tinnitus, though a mild form, not enough to keep me up at night. I run a fan on my nightstand year-round, and the white noise tends to drown out the ringing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian View Post
    I've gone through several bouts of insomnia in my life, mostly related to my panic disorder. It's awful. I wouldn't wish sleeplessness on anyone.

    I also have tinnitus, though a mild form, not enough to keep me up at night. I run a fan on my nightstand year-round, and the white noise tends to drown out the ringing.
    Mild tinitus here too. I normal listen to my iPod on shuffle on very low volumes. Normally enough to drown out the ringing. And essential to my sleep. I never travel anywhere without my ipod and ipod speaker. But some nights any sound is anoying, and since i have tinitus that goes in the any sound category too......
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    I have had tinnitus for 20+ years. Luckily, I don't suffer from insomnia. I guess everyone's tinnitus may be different but having anything on when I try to sleep makes me crazy. I usually with sleep with earplugs if there is any noise such as road noise, air conditioners or fans. My ringing will go into overdrive and sometimes I get a buzzing on top of the ringing in my left ear with any other noise. I can handle the ringing but when I get additional sounds, its going to be a real long night. I can also get this anytime when I hear noise such as TV,music, subways etc. what I would give for silence.

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    Kim - have you tried "white noise?" Like, one of those machines, or an "environmental" CD, etc.?
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    I have had insomnia problems for years and it can be one of the most frustrating things in the world to deal with. I have been with the same company for 26 years, but have worked just about every shift there is at one time or another. At one time I had to be in at 5:30AM everyday and it was a nightmare from an Insomniac perspective. When I tried to sleep I was so worried about getting to sleep that I could not sleep. I remember more than once going 48 hours without any sleep at all even though I was completely exhausted. About 8 years ago, in order to take a promotion, I switched to 3rd shift and got my doctor to give me an Ambien prescription. 3rd shift was a whole other animal, but the Ambien did help. About 2 years ago I switched to 2nd shift, which from an insomnia perspective is the best fit. If I can’t sleep, I often do not have to be up early in the morning so that I can sleep in. I can still easily stay up to 3 / 4 in the morning with no problem most of the time. I still take Ambien a lot although I have built up a tolerance and it does not work as well as it once did. The worst thing with Ambien it works much better on an empty stomach. With food in my stomach the stuff is practically worthless, if my stomach is empty it still works pretty good. My boss is currently trying to talk me into going back to 1st shift, and my biggest fear is having to deal with major insomnia problems again. We’ll see……

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    Kim - have you tried "white noise?" Like, one of those machines, or an "environmental" CD, etc.?
    Back when I was working 3rd shift I got a “white noise” machine in order to help block out sounds while I tried to sleep during the day. I would recommend these to anyone as they really do work well. Even though I am no longer on 3rd I still use it every night. I have it sitting on a table right next to my head on the bed. Another thing that they are great for is travelling. If you are staying in a hotel or in someone’s house they block out all of the noise from other rooms, outside, etc.

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    I have to have a white noise machine and a fan going.

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    Been off the Ambien and Lunestra for a year and a half now after needing their help for about 2 years. Great stuff. Only took a teeny nibble to get the racing thoughts to stop and sleep. Felt great when I woke, although I was only able to get about 6 hrs. sleep from the pills, or nibbles. Very easy to stay up. Especially if you think you "only" have x amount of hours before you need to wake. What helped me was just trying to get any amount of solid rem shuteye and not worry about the time. Those pills really helped and were not addicting, ok, to a point, but was able to finally not need them. Had some apnea issues too which fed into the insomnia trouble. Stopped seeemingly as fast as the trouble started. Sleep soundly, although the slightest noise wakes me up. Sun mask and earplugs helped too. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    Kim - have you tried "white noise?" Like, one of those machines, or an "environmental" CD, etc.?
    Static noise is hell to me. If i stay in a place where there is any kind of that i'm positively without sleep. I have my ipod and a little speaker playing at very low volumes. If i listen to music that i'm not familiar with the musicianbrain starts analyzing chord structures etc and i wake up rather than go to sleep.
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    No insomnia (can sleep in relatively/reasonably noisy conditions or evendon't need curtains if there are no stretlight shining on my bed


    I'm always a bit astounded how some of our US colleagues can still be posting around in the European morning... It's around noon in Brussels, so it must be 3AM in LA and 6AM in NY... Dontcha have jobs, you bloody up-to-no-good bums???

    I'm not complaing though... Because European mornings can be boring on PE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim Olesen View Post
    I've had sleep problems since i could remember. Always a light sleeper, combined with my ears ability to home in on any sound (a fantastic gift as musician but a fantastic obstacle to sleep too). Having tinitus does not help either and the last years my ears have gotten oversensitive to certain sounds too....

    ....oh how i envy those of you who can sleep a whole night without interruption...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian View Post
    I've gone through several bouts of insomnia in my life, mostly related to my panic disorder. It's awful. I wouldn't wish sleeplessness on anyone.

    I also have tinnitus, though a mild form, not enough to keep me up at night. I run a fan on my nightstand year-round, and the white noise tends to drown out the ringing.
    These posts reflect my situation. Since cutting out most morning work about 4 years ago my condition has been gradually improving. I tend to sleep after 4am and wake up at midday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim Olesen View Post
    I've had sleep problems since i could remember. Always a light sleeper, combined with my ears ability to home in on any sound (a fantastic gift as musician but a fantastic obstacle to sleep too). Having tinitus does not help either and the last years my ears have gotten oversensitive to certain sounds too....

    ....oh how i envy those of you who can sleep a whole night without interruption...

    Other insomniacs here?

    Lifetime insomniac. Serotonin uptake disorder.

    I stopped taking all prescription meds due to them leaving me a zombie the next day.. Except Ambien, which doesn't make you a zombie the next day, it makes you a zombie while you're sleeping (you could sleep right through a deadly fire.)

    I take regular old over the counter melotonin if I have 2-3 straight sleepless nights. That stuff knocks me out good but not TOO good, with little in the way of side-effects next morning.

    As a lifelong apartment dweller, my biggest problem is entertaining myself during long sleepless nights without waking the neighbors. Ambient music works well. Music For Airports is part of the soundtrack of my life for this reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    I'm always a bit astounded how some of our US colleagues can still be posting around in the European morning...
    In an insomnia thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim Olesen View Post
    Static noise is hell to me. If i stay in a place where there is any kind of that i'm positively without sleep.
    Can't sleep without it. IF the power goes out, I'm screwed. Every little click and pop in the house bugs me, and if I do manage to doze off I get awakened by the wife complaining that I'm breathing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    I'm always a bit astounded how some of our US colleagues can still be posting around in the European morning... It's around noon in Brussels, so it must be 3AM in LA and 6AM in NY... Dontcha have jobs, you bloody up-to-no-good bums???
    That's usually me - and a few other fellow insomniacs

    I seem to have it under partial control since I started doing extensive physical activities. But there's always that one f***ing night where it doesn't matter what you do - you're awake. The worst is when your head hits the pillow and you fall asleep immediately. Then half an hour later you're suddenly awake, and you know that you won't be getting any more sleep for the next 24 hours...

    Quote Originally Posted by ItalProgRules View Post
    I take regular old over the counter melotonin if I have 2-3 straight sleepless nights.
    Same here - works well IF you go to bed immediately after taking it.
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    I work out 4-5x a week so physical exertion, unfortunately, doesn't help me.

    I do rely a lot on white noise, usually a fan.

    Drinking alcohol does not help, it hurts. Luckily, I rarely drink anymore after my medical scare 2 years ago.
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    Long time light sleeper with ADHD so yeah, some wicked insomnia. I take melatonin as well and it usually shuts down my rampaging brain enough so I can get to sleep. I've also had some luck with that new Zquil but I have serious doubts if it is safe. What is the worst if the melatonin wears off and I am woke up by something. If my mind gets racing, there's no going back to sleep. Best thing for me to do then is get out of bed and read or sit in front of the computer. At least I'll accomplish something.
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    Good lord is there anyone on PE who's not an insomniac or has tinitus?

    I'm not making fun of anyone, I might be an insomniac myself. For years my alarm was set for 4:30am (until recently), but I'm one of those guys that wakes up a couple times a night to look at the clock (1:02am, 02:15am, 3:20am ). In the last year or so I started beating the alarm. It was the anxiety of being startled by the alarm that got me up at 4 or 3:30am. On my days off I actually "sleep in" till around 5:30-6am. The only thing that works for me is those PM type pain relievers. I don't do serious, prescription type stuff at all. If I average 3-4 good hours of REM sleep I'm up and at 'em, and bright eyed n' bushy tailed .

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    Not an insomniac, but definitely have tinnitus.


    /not trying to derail the thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    Good lord is there anyone on PE who's not an insomniac or has tinitus? .
    I definitely have both.

    I wonder how much of a link exists between the two?
    Regards,

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    I'm sure you've all heard tons of advice over the years on how to get to sleep. I've been on so many pharmaceuticals over the years for insomnia, panic disorder, and generalized anxiety that I've lost count. I got off all of them because I couldn't deal anymore with the side effects, especially the weight gain, which I struggle with to this day. Now I focus on herbal supplements. If you're looking for something else to try, valerian root has been -- for me, anyway -- a great herbal remedy for relaxing and getting to sleep. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

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    Sometimes a good wank helps. And no, I'm not joking. Of course, sometimes it keeps you up too. Can't win, I suppose.

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    Here is an occasional remedy that works for me. C-SPAN, with the volume too low to make out what's being said, but high enough to hear. Face away from the TV. The Sylvian/Czukay CDs make good soundtracks, too. Sometimes I find that a hooded sweatshirt helps if it's cool enough in the room.

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    I generally don't have insomnia but I do tend to wake up at night, although usually a piss and a sip of water and I am back to sleep quickly. Part of it is chronic sinus problems. I started using Breatheright strips and they do help, I sleep much longer and feel more rested in the morning. Also avoiding diuretics (eg alcohol, coffee, soda etc) before bed helps.

    Now right now I do have insomnia but I think it may have something to do with having about six cups of coffee (my usual is three in the morning and that is it) at a diner with a friend of mine tonight
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