Is This Progressive?

[rcarlberg]

[TCC]

Progressive Polka?.
Like it!

[Scrotum Scissor]

No. It's polka. An established music form. And you know it.

Of course, there were actual progressive bands somewhat indebted to polka, like Begnagrad, Die Knödel, Look de Book, Nimal and Alamaailman Vasaraat, but then again these were informed by multiple other music forms as well.

On the other hand, there are numerous other so-called progressive artists who simply model themselves on former/older progressive artists. So if these three lovely gals were to be joined by, say, another gal or dude playing the electric guitar, the drums, the bass or perhaps the Mini-Moog, then we're talkin'.

[TCC]

No. It's polka. An established music form. And you know it.
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On the other hand, there are numerous other so-called progressive artists who simply model themselves on former/older progressive artists. So if these three lovely gals were to be joined by, say, another gal or dude playing the electric guitar, the drums, the bass or perhaps the Mini-Moog, then we're talkin'.

Agree SS!.

[Trane]

No. It's polka. An established music form. And you know it.

Of course, there were actual progressive bands somewhat indebted to polka, like Begnagrad, Die Knödel, Look de Book, Nimal and Alamaailman Vasaraat, but then again these were informed by multiple other music forms as well.

At least two of those bands you cite would be more indebted to Klezmer music, Circus or jazz manouche music

I'm not exactly sure what is considered polka music other these ethnico-rural danse or festivities music of central Europe, like this goes from Oktoberfest to Balkan-wedding music to Polish-Unesco-funded/protected-traditional patrimonium and tourist attraction interest.

Personally, I find nothing progressive to the music of the YT video.. It's all about respecting faithfully the tradition... in some ways, rather than progressive, it's almost regressive.

[JKL2000]

It's progressive because there's no tuba. It's minimalist, avant polka.

[Scrotum Scissor]

At least two of those bands you cite would be more indebted to Klezmer music, Circus or jazz manouche music

ALL of them are indebted to Klezmer, but 'circus music' hardly makes for a separate, established genre in itself - it's simply a shallow description. Polka however, traditionally, was both a folk music form and a set of choreographies to move with it. A dance, in other words. Historically it's been performed at celebrations, cultural happenings, weddings, festivals etc. in regions of mid- to eastern Europe. You can catch "serious" polka events in countries as relatively far apart as Slovakia, Switzerland, Poland and northern Italy. If you'd like to.

The quite well-known - and profoundly excellent! - Ivo Papasov and his Wedding Band (from Bulgaria) actually Integrated both polka and klezmer and mizrahi, Turkish, Greek et al. into a hyper-energetic stew containing further elements of rock and free jazz. Are they progressive? Small- or big-P, w./wo. quotation marks?

Dunno. But I like 'em even more than I do To the Bone. Such an amazing and contrarian feat, that.

[Jay.Dee]

Well, we all know that the prog stems from Eastern folk forms.

Szilárd Mezei Vocal Ensemble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a4td4xTxIk
Russian Free Folk Quintet (feat. Anastasia Masloboeva): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J10sDP4KBK8
Jablkoň & Svěcený: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjCVv1oFvMI

[chalkpie]

Where are they? That location really reminds me of Gimmewald, Switzerland where I went this summer. Great music btw. Trane will hate it, but he has no taste as we all know

[Scrotum Scissor]

Great music btw. Trane will *LOVE* it

Indeed! It's time we gave Hugues what he always secretly wished for - all those restless nights of inhibited lack of release, and then... Finally:

[alucard]

https://youtu.be/cxF494XR__A

This was two videos down, The Pogues go Polka

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[yamishogun]

He was dethroned years ago. This is the reigning progressive polka king:

dennis.jpg

[JKL2000]

Indeed! It's time we gave Hugues what he always secretly wished for - all those restless nights of inhibited lack of release, and then... Finally:

I'm pretty sure if I knew the missiles were on there way and there was no stopping them or escaping, this is what I'd crank. Really nothing else would sum it all up musically.

In fact, there should be a UN resolution every ICBM be fitted with something that broadcasts this music ahead of it on all frequencies and somehow overrides all other broadcasts.

[JKL2000]

He was dethroned years ago. This is the reigning progressive polka king:

dennis.jpg

Infidel!

[Fracktured]

I'm sure if that was played by ELP and Emerson arranged it everyone would say yes. And if Chad and Rob booked them at NF none of the guys would care what they were playing.

[Trane]

A gentleman is someone that knows how to play the accordian.... But doesn't

Where are they? That location really reminds me of Gimmewald, Switzerland where I went this summer. Great music btw. Trane will hate it, but he has no taste as we all know

This is the only piece of music where accordian is cool (and it's Belgian ok>> the accordionist Marcel Azzola is French)



But it's the song that's great... he does is it solo around the 1-min mark.



.... but that's only because Le Grand Jacques is the greatest, not because of the instrument

Same song without the accordian (first round)



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Ah, and sometimes Aranis's Marjolein is OK as well

[alucard]

^Not too forget Lars Hollmer !

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[Steve F.]

^Not too forget Lars Hollmer !

I don't forget Lars!

[Scrotum Scissor]

A gentleman is someone that knows how to play the accordian.... But doesn't

One of those instances where even a brilliant musikal/artistic mind (here: Mr. Waits) is completely wrong.

Hollmer, Debile Menthol, Redfearn. Say no more.

And Hugues; the recording of "Ne Me Quitte Pas" from that performance is my fave footage of any musical event - ever. He was the greatest, and you know it when you hear it.

[Zeuhlmate]

[Jerjo]

When I see a thread like this my first thought is thank the prog gods Svetonio got himself banned.

[Steve F.]

A gentleman is someone that knows how to play the accordian.... But doesn't

I am of the very strong belief that there is no such thing as a 'bad instrument'. There's bad music and there's bad players, but there are no bad musical instruments.

Leave your mind open to the possibilities and maybe YOU'LL see Marc Charig, Nick Evans, Elton Dean, Louis Moholo, etc.

Because if you don't leave yourself open the possibilities, the only thing that is certain is that it will not happen for you.

[moecurlythanu]

I don't forget Lars!

It occurs to me that this video is to Trane what garlic is to a vampire.

[Scrotum Scissor]

I am of the very strong belief that there is no such thing as a 'bad instrument'. There's bad music and there's bad players, but there are no bad musical instruments.

Word. But then again, Steve, we are folks who dig ol' Yes records as well as thinking the world of both Hyrrokkin, Wolfman Jack, Tito Puente, Beefheart, Ange and Sun Ra. What would you expect?

[Steve F.]

What would you expect?

I expect a better world, but I guess we got the one we got....

Have we discussed Tito Puente here??!!!!