Neal Schon/Jonathan Cain Journey turmoil?

[Dan Roth]

Neal has been quite active on social media as of late, even changing his Twitter name to "Neal Schon's JRNY". Over the last couple of days, he has been posting quite a bit about his views on religion and politics in the band and how they differ from Cain's:

"Bringing it every night. I want to be elevated by whom I play with not feel like I've got cement shoes. If anyone is unhappy they are Not running My band then They should Leave. God has bigger plans.

I've stated how I felt about mixing Religion and Politics and how our music is not of 1 religion - democratic or republican. This is and has been an issue with myself Mr Cain and his now wife since he married. I've had to fight this whole time to protect the Brand I built with Steve Perry way before Gregg and I picked Cain to replace himself when he wanted to retire from the road back then. Well frankly I'm tired of having to defend all by my self. Ross is no help. I continue to grow and be completely creative and want to take the band Neal Schon's JRNY on an exciting new trip musically. Yes we will always have all hits to play But there must be musical growth also. I also need to surround myself with people that care as I do. I'll never stop.”

He went on to say a bit more and now apparently advertisement for him being honored in Tulsa has been removed.

Full story and all of Schon's quotes here:

http://melodicrock.com/articles/news...omething-watch

[dlm]

I wish he could bring Greg back.

[Dan Roth]

I wish he could bring Greg back.

I have been following this a bit on Facebook and many fans are suggesting the same thing. If it truly is now "Neal Schon's Journey" and he is this unhappy with Cain, I wonder what the possibilities are of bringing Gregg back.

[GuitarGeek]

I think the best bit in that whole rant was the line, "Ross is no help". It's like he's carrying on about whichever disagreements he's having with Cain, and then, in the middle of that, he decides to take a swipe at Ross Valory.

[Vic2012]

Looks like the band is imploding.

[Jubal]

When I read Cain had married Paula White, I wanted to throw up.
Third marriage for both- that should say something right there. The lady who calls herself a minister doesn'r believe what Jesus says about divorce, and obviously stays away from the Epistles of Paul to Timothy.
Schon needs to get a new keyboard player, plain ad simple. He either needs to apologize to Ross, or find someone to replace him as well.

[Sean]

I always thought Cain was kinda lame. Let him go....

[Dan Roth]

Apparently Schon has taken notice of MelodicRock.com's story (linked in the OP) and contacted the site. He told them, "I'm having fun playing as always for my fans. Journey will tour for the next 2 months then we will have time to think away from each other." and went on to tell them about a project he wants to do with John Waite and an update on his upcoming solo album:

http://melodicrock.com/articles/news...-blues-project

[Scott Bails]

Cain put out a Christian album last year and is very, very religious. I don't know if he's born-again, or what - I don't recall him being that religious before.

But it's interesting that Schon refers to him as "Mr. Cain." Seems rather formal for bandmates of over 30 years.

[moecurlythanu]

A surreal soap opera that could only happen in America.

[Jubal]

Cain put out a Christian album last year and is very, very religious. I don't know if he's born-again, or what - I don't recall him being that religious before.

But it's interesting that Schon refers to him as "Mr. Cain." Seems rather formal for bandmates of over 30 years.

Perhaps it is a poke at his ironically biblical name. In case you weren't aware, Cain was the first murderer.

[SteveSly]

Interesting stuff. I was unaware of Cain's marriage to White. Somehow that slipped by my radar. Sounds like the wheels are falling off either way.

[Scott Bails]

I'd never heard of her, before this thread. I can now see why there's been such a change.

Hmm...reading more about her, I can see why Schon has issues. I'll leave it at that.

[Vic2012]

She can be all evangelical but at the end of the day Cain found him a piece of a**........

[dropforge]

Change the name to Gurney and call it a day.

[Koreabruce]

Change the name to Gurney and call it a day.

Well-player, sir!

[GuitarGeek]

Interesting stuff. I was unaware of Cain's marriage to White. Somehow that slipped by my radar. Sounds like the wheels are falling off either way.

A lot of that tabloid type stuff goes past my radar too. Apparently, Neal's married to an Real Housewives escapee, or it says on Wikipedia. Apparently, their wedding some kind of pay-per-view event.

The one only one of Cain's marriages I knew about was the first one. He was married to Doug McClure's daughter, who was at the time apparently trying to launch a singing career. According to Herbie Herbert, Journey's original manager, part of the deal with Jonathan joining the band way back in 1981 was that they'd help Tané get a record deal. I think Herbie insinuated that Jonathan more or less blackmailed his way into getting his wife's record deal. So Tané Cain (as she chose to be known at the time) released one record, produced by Jonathan, which flopped, she was dropped by the record company, and then, apparently, she dropped Jonathan (and I think Herbie suggested that she took him to the cleaners too, after all the trouble he went through to get her a record contract). (shrug)

As for this Paula White chick, reading the first paragraph of her Wiki page, I think I see the rub. Apparently, she's the personal minister of a certain former casino owner/reality TV star who presently holds high office in Washington, DC these days. So that's presumably Neal's gripe about politics comes in. (shrug)

[pb2015]

Perhaps it is a poke at his ironically biblical name. In case you weren't aware, Cain was the first murderer.

Maybe Schon could make Journey cover the Springsteen song "Adam Raised A Cain."

[the ferret]

A lot of that tabloid type stuff goes past my radar too. Apparently, Neal's married to an Real Housewives escapee, or it says on Wikipedia. Apparently, their wedding some kind of pay-per-view event.

The one only one of Cain's marriages I knew about was the first one. He was married to Doug McClure's daughter, who was at the time apparently trying to launch a singing career. According to Herbie Herbert, Journey's original manager, part of the deal with Jonathan joining the band way back in 1981 was that they'd help Tané get a record deal. I think Herbie insinuated that Jonathan more or less blackmailed his way into getting his wife's record deal. So Tané Cain (as she chose to be known at the time) released one record, produced by Jonathan, which flopped, she was dropped by the record company, and then, apparently, she dropped Jonathan (and I think Herbie suggested that she took him to the cleaners too, after all the trouble he went through to get her a record contract). (shrug)

As for this Paula White chick, reading the first paragraph of her Wiki page, I think I see the rub. Apparently, she's the personal minister of a certain former casino owner/reality TV star who presently holds high office in Washington, DC these days. So that's presumably Neal's gripe about politics comes in. (shrug)

The Tane Cain album has some strong songs on it but - bless her - she wasn't the best vocalist. Rock Candy reissued it recently if you're curious.

Shame about the band though. They still put on a decent show & the Arnel records a really quite decent. Not sure if Greg Rolie would want to get back on the bus but I wouldn't want to see them fold.

[GuitarGeek]

Maybe Schon could make Journey cover the Springsteen song "Adam Raised A Cain."

I kinda forgot about that song. That's a good tune. Good guitar riff as I recall.

The Tane Cain album has some strong songs on it but - bless her - she wasn't the best vocalist. Rock Candy reissued it recently if you're curious.

I've never heard it, but maybe I'll look into it. I wonder if any of the songs are up on Youtube. According to Wikipedia, a lot of people compared her to Pat Benatar.

[kid_runningfox]

I wish he could bring Greg back.

Seconded. 'Stone in Love' excepted, Journey completely jumped the shark when Gregg left. I still love Captured though; it's one of my desert island albums, and Neal was just unstoppable back then - probably the single biggest influence on my own electric guitar playing.

I have to say that stranger things have happened, what with Schon and Rolie playing together again as part of Santana IV then maybe anything's possible. Absent Perry (who was a big part of the reason that Rolie quit in the first place), then who knows what the future holds?

[Valen]

I used to really like this band's music, but man, they're more kitchen sink drama than rock and roll these days.

It's gonna make for a great mini-series to pay for their retirement/alimony bills:

- the aggro with Perry not wanting to tour outside the US
- poor Steve Augeri singing his voice to pieces and having to resort to backing tapes
- the band strenuously denying backing tapes until the hard drive crashes mid gig and Augeri leaves the stage, with drummer Dean filling in on vocals while the roadie drums around cues from Valory
- Jeff Scott Soto saving their bacon at short notice and becoming so popular that Schon sacks him out of spite, but poor Soto only learning about his sacking third hand because no one in the band has the courtesy to tell him upfront
- picking their next singer from a covers band on Youtube (who really impressed me on his first tour, but ended up sidelined onstage on the follow-up tour I saw)
- and now Schon and Cain getting into a desperate housewives spat....

Meanwhile, Perry happily sits back, enjoys the quiet life and lets the royalties flow into his account. If anyone's crying now, it's certainly not him

[Scott Bails]

A lot of that tabloid type stuff goes past my radar too. Apparently, Neal's married to an Real Housewives escapee, or it says on Wikipedia. Apparently, their wedding some kind of pay-per-view event.

He's married to Michaele Salahi, the notorious "White House crasher." It was a very scandalous affair, apparently. They had been "dating" for months while Schon was still married, and Salahi's husband actually reported her missing when she was, in fact, touring with the band.

[mogrooves]

Perry happily sits back, enjoys the quiet life and lets the royalties flow into his account. If anyone's crying now, it's certainly not him

I once read that he receives a cut of the band's touring receipts. Nice work, if you can get it.

[Gruno]

I used to really like this band's music, but man, they're more kitchen sink drama than rock and roll these days.

It's gonna make for a great mini-series to pay for their retirement/alimony bills:

- the aggro with Perry not wanting to tour outside the US
- poor Steve Augeri singing his voice to pieces and having to resort to backing tapes
- the band strenuously denying backing tapes until the hard drive crashes mid gig and Augeri leaves the stage, with drummer Dean filling in on vocals while the roadie drums around cues from Valory
- Jeff Scott Soto saving their bacon at short notice and becoming so popular that Schon sacks him out of spite, but poor Soto only learning about his sacking third hand because no one in the band has the courtesy to tell him upfront
- picking their next singer from a covers band on Youtube (who really impressed me on his first tour, but ended up sidelined onstage on the follow-up tour I saw)
- and now Schon and Cain getting into a desperate housewives spat....

Meanwhile, Perry happily sits back, enjoys the quiet life and lets the royalties flow into his account. If anyone's crying now, it's certainly not him

Enjoy the Cds and/or concerts and stay away from reading about the band. Works every time.