a yesshows box in the style of progeny would be great cause you would get three different tours represented. I know there were extra songs from those shows on word is live so seems like they probably have the full shows somewhere.
a yesshows box in the style of progeny would be great cause you would get three different tours represented. I know there were extra songs from those shows on word is live so seems like they probably have the full shows somewhere.
Not exactly. The Word Is Live featured extra tracks from the following shows:Originally Posted by gojikranz
Detroit 1976
Oakland 1978
Inglewood 1978
Chicago 1979
Inglewood '78 and Chicago '79 are simply straight radio broadcast bootlegs. Detroit and Oakland, however, are from the collection of multitracks used for YesShows. Oakland wasn't actually used on YesShows, the only track released at the time was Roundabout on the Classic Yes bonus single. Speaking of that particular release, is it just the Atlantic 1994 remaster of was the original also ridiculously sped up? It would make sense if they sped it up to make it fit on the single.
[YesShows is my favourite Yes album of all time!!! ]
Mine too but part of that might be because of the part of their career it mostly covers(the 73-78 era). I like Yessongs too though.
At the Yes Q&A session on CTTE Steve or someone said, I think, that they might have enough tapes for something like Progeny for another tour -- the Drama tour possibly? Although they also said we were all crazy for listening to all the shows on Progeny!
Anyone remember better than me?
I've heard nothing to suggest that might be the case. I am merely speculating. There are definitely possible archival projects in various stages of development. I presume they go more smoothly when all stakeholders are on talking terms, and slower when they're not.I like both bands, both Yes and ARW, but I haven't been happy at all with some of the things ARW's management seems to be pulling. I hope it doesn't stop releases from happening. Hope you're wrong Henry, but since you're "in the know", you're probably right
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drama seems unlikely given that they had to resort to fairly low quality bootleg to get the track on the word is yes. not that they couldn't have discovered something I would love it if they did!
Long Beach '77 (best CTTE ever! IMO)
Wembley '78,
Quebec '79 and
Any full well balanced Moraz show.
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Imo, both Genesis and Yes need more official live albums. I think Genesis fares worse but really neither band are in the league of King Crimson or even Rush when it comes to archival live releases(or live releases in general).
Pretty obvious The Word Is Live didn't use many multi-tracks, yes. Some of the late 70s stuff is very dry-sounding. I remember wondering if 'Future Times/Rejoice' was the studio version! And the Drama era material sounds like a tape in less than optimum condition.
That set has a lot of good things but other than the first disc which is all 1970-1, it doesn't play well as a complete listen IMHO. It's the same as Yesshows, somewhat piecemeal in terms of track selection.
I think some might be assuming that the FM broadcasts like Quebec, Roosevelt Stadium etc. have multi-track masters. It's more likely these were done on-the-fly purely for live broadcast IMHO. (Obviously Wembley is different.)
Well, yes, that box with pretty much identical set-lists on each show is not really for me, particularly with a band like Yes where there wasn't a significant amount of improvisation. But Progeny set an interesting precedent.
I've only seen bits from this DVD release and remember the quality of the filming was excellent.. Having seen the band on two sperate tours with Oliver / Benoit lineup they certainly had their moments particularly Benoit's vocals.. but otherwise I thought it was a fair representation of Yes.. Might have to pickup this release at some point
It was the Union tour he mentioned as a possibility - saying they had 6 or so shows to work with possibly
The idea behind Progeny isn't necessarily to listen to all seven shows in a row. It just means when you are in the mood for a show from 1972 you now have seven great sounding choices, each of which has its own individual charms. I've been looking to get more YesWest live material myself. That is the era of the band that is most poorly served by the official live releases IMHO.
Lyon is the only one of the post Anderson live albums that I ever play, mainly for the two Drama tracks. It is a pretty nice sounding recording that definitely makes me think Oliver Wakeman got a raw deal as you can hear what he is doing really well on it and his performances are excellent IMHO.
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That reminds me: Howe also said he thought they should do some of the Keys Studio stuff live.
I've not heard a post-Anderson live album that I've liked in any way. And not because of the vocalists. The band is generally sloppy, earlier ones had songs played at way too slow tempos, and while they subsequently corrected that they sound loose and lacking in cohesion.
Sad, but to my ears anyway, true....
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well ARW should have no complaints with that given it is the tour they claim to be trying to emulate.
The visual aspect might be what makes the difference. I've only heard the CD version.
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unfortunately the DVD included only includes roundabout and machine messiah in full from the show along with some other clips and interviews.
Guess I figured the whole show was filmed.. Bummer.. I have plenty of ROIO's from that tour
Thanks Henry, let's hope everything works out with both camps
The whole show was filmed and was meant to be released in 3D, but that never happened.
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Because it's not note for note? ( At least since about 1994 on....And I know I'm not exactly talking King Crimson here either.)
I share that view. Not really to Anderson not being there but due to the sloppy and slowness of the performances.I've not heard a post-Anderson live album that I've liked in any way. And not because of the vocalists. The band is generally sloppy, earlier ones had songs played at way too slow tempos, and while they subsequently corrected that they sound loose and lacking in cohesion.
Sad, but to my ears anyway, true....
Can we take that to mean you wouldn't have gone and seen Rush live on one of the late-period tours?
Hmm..here's a thought..release it!
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