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    Quote Originally Posted by spellbound View Post
    Please give an example of an incorrect fact.
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    Jethro Tull is a solo artist.

    Phil Collins ruined everything.

    Kansas* are prog.

    (*other non-prog bands are available)

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    ^^ At the risk of labouring the point, these are incorrect statements, not incorrect facts.

    Anyway, when a riddle or puzzle thread gets to the stage where it's drifting way off topic, that tells me that people are more or less giving up on the questions. Didn't think (3) would be that hard... I'll give the group another few hours before posting the answers to (1) and (3).
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    Is (3) to do with deaths of band members? And the odd one out is Joy Division, because it was self-inflicted.

    Either that or I've got the vague idea that it's to do with members' names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halmyre View Post
    Is (3) to do with deaths of band members? And the odd one out is Joy Division, because it was self-inflicted.

    Either that or I've got the vague idea that it's to do with members' names.
    Yes and no.

    It is to do with the deaths of band members, but has more to do with WHICH band member, rather than the manner of their death. More or less gives it away, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_32_116 View Post
    ^^ At the risk of labouring the point, these are incorrect statements, not incorrect facts.
    I didn't have the energy for this yesterday, but today I have.

    You are wrong. Your definition of fact i.e. truth, only covers one defintion of fact in this list of 5.

    Facts are proved to be incorrect and vice versa everyday.

    Fact also means piece of info, piece of evidence, proof of presence, existence, occurrence.

    A witness in court relates facts from their perspective without any guarantee of those facts being true or correct. See second line in defintion No. 4

    A fact long held by the church was that the Sun revolved around the Earth. That is now an incorrect fact. It isn't a myth, it isn't a lie. It is a fact that has been proved to be incorrect.

    Bottom line, your premise that fact = truth, is totally incorrect.

    FACT
    noun
    1.
    something that actually exists; reality; truth:
    Your fears have no basis in fact.
    2.
    something known to exist or to have happened:
    Space travel is now a fact.
    3.
    a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true:
    Scientists gather facts about plant growth.
    4.
    something said to be true or supposed to have happened:
    The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.
    5.
    Law.. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence.
    Compare question of fact, question of law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_32_116 View Post

    Anyway, when a riddle or puzzle thread gets to the stage where it's drifting way off topic, that tells me that people are more or less giving up on the questions.
    No, lets have it straight Bob, Spellbound wanted to play semantics police and posted this, "Please give an example of an incorrect fact."

    And when I responded, you then jumped on the bandwagon as the semantics police.

    Fact does not equal truth. Incorrect facts exist everywhere all the time and are held until they are proven to be incorrect or vice versa. Incorrect fact is a common phrase within research, theology, information security and so on.

    There are hundreds of pages on the net devoted to incorrect facts in, for example, The Bible, history, politics, media etc.
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    Well, PeterG, I guess I was using "fact" in the sense of definitions 1, 2 & 3, which I would submit are how the word is used 99% of the time, rather than the last two definitions, which appear to be specific to legal frameworks.

    If it makes you happy, OK, there are incorrect facts, if you use the word "fact" in a particular sense of the word.

    Now can we move on, for heaven's sake? You jumped on me for derailing one of your threads; I believe "piss off" was the expression you used. Yet it's apparently OK for you to hijack one of mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    "Opus Dei is a secret cult." That is the kind of incorrect "fact" that many websites and bloggers publish as fact and want people to believe as fact.
    Opus Dei is an open organisation for all Catholics. Nothing secret about it, and nothing cult-like about it.
    As a Catholic, I find them very cultlike.
    Cobra handling and cocaine use are a bad mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturgeon's Lawyer View Post
    As a Catholic, I find them very cultlike.
    It was a bad example on my part. But rather than hijack Bob's thread further, I'll PM you.

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    Answers are posted in the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spellbound View Post
    Please give an example of an incorrect fact.
    Sorry Bob, I did not intend for that to happen. BUT this is where the thread was hijacked. Not by me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    Sorry Bob, I did not intend for that to happen. BUT this is where the thread was hijacked. Not by me!
    Never mind. I was hoping someone else would post a puzzle now, as I like trying to solve this kind of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spellbound View Post
    Who are The Shins and Gyroscope? I wasn't looking for a research project.
    It would have been much easier if those bands were replaced by Steve Howe and the Kinks.

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    What connects The Moody Blues, David Bowie, The Stone Roses, Morrissey and Manic Street Preachers?
    (this has nothing to do with the music itself)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    What connects The Moody Blues, David Bowie, The Stone Roses, Morrissey and Manic Street Preachers?
    (this has nothing to do with the music itself)
    The Cut-Out Bin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Triscuits View Post
    It would have been much easier if those bands were replaced by Steve Howe and the Kinks.
    Perhaps. I was not aware those two had done songs called "Australia" until now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    What connects The Moody Blues, David Bowie, The Stone Roses, Morrissey and Manic Street Preachers?
    (this has nothing to do with the music itself)
    They are all British!

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    OK - name the odd one out:

    Chicago; Earth, Wind and Fire; Mandrill; Blood Sweat and Tears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturgeon's Lawyer View Post
    OK - name the odd one out:

    Chicago; Earth, Wind and Fire; Mandrill; Blood Sweat and Tears.
    Chicago, EW&F, and BS&T all exist as active, touring entities. They've also all had hits. Mandrill never had a hit, and aren't really a going concern - they play the occasional gig in Brooklyn (where they live), but that's about it.

    So Mandrill. Of course, that may not be what you're thinking.

    OR:

    Chicago, EW&F, and Mandrill all had/have multiple vocalists and no real single frontman. BS&T has a frontman, and has had one or another (usually David Clayton-Thomas) for most of its career.

    So BS&T. Of course, that may not be what you're thinking.

    OR:

    Chicago, Mandrill, and BS&T all had their horn sections as integral band members. EW&F also had a horn section, but they were considered hired hands, never appeared in band pictures, were listed separately, and so on.

    So EW&F. Of course, that may not be what you're thinking.

    OR:

    Chicago is named after a city. EW&F, Mandrill, and BS&T are not.

    So Chicago. Of course, that may not be what you're thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturgeon's Lawyer View Post
    OK - name the odd one out:

    Chicago; Earth, Wind and Fire; Mandrill; Blood Sweat and Tears.
    I think EW&F were formed later than the others. Would it be that EW&F are the only one not formed in the 1960's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_32_116 View Post
    They are all British!
    Yes, but no. They all have one person in common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    Yes, but no. They all have one person in common.
    Tony Visconti? Though I don't think he worked with the Stone Roses as a band, only with one of the members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Triscuits View Post
    Tony Visconti? Though I don't think he worked with the Stone Roses as a band, only with one of the members.
    Tony V is correct. And yea, you're probably right about The Stone Roses, I was going by memory.

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