Post Punk

[zombywoof]

Hi all! I've found myself drawn to this kind of stuff lately - sort of punk, but with a definite art (dare I progressive?) leaning. Off the top of my head, so far I have ...

This Heat - This Heat and Deceit
The Stranglers - The Raven
Magazine - Real Life and Secondhand Daylight
Public Image Limited - Second Edition (aka Metal Box)
Bowie - Scary Monsters

I also have all the Cardiacs stuff and XTC's Drums and Wires and Black Sea - if you want to consider those post punk (certainly in a similar vein).

So what else do I need?

[Morpheus]

Pere Ubu are one of the prototypical "post punk" bands even though they predated and were dismissive of punk.



The Pop Group were among the best left field,post punk groups



After Henry Cow, Tim Hodgkinson started a great Post Punk in Opposition style band which shared some sonic spae with This Heat

[Sunlight Caller]

You have to listen to Wire, they were always great, but the first three Pink Flag, Chairs Missing and 154 are of the era in question and progress startlingly. They still make great albums now.


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[zombywoof]

You have to listen to Wire, they were always great, but the first three Pink Flag, Chairs Missing and 154 are of the era in question and progress startlingly. They still make great albums now.

Yeah, I've investigated Wire a bit - 154 is a bit difficult to find these days.

[polmico]

You have to listen to Wire, they were always great, but the first three Pink Flag, Chairs Missing and 154 are of the era in question and progress startlingly. They still make great albums now.


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Wire is the answer. There's other great music out there. Sonic Youth and Gang of Four and Minutemen haven't been mentioned. But the answer to the question is Wire.

[zombywoof]

Wire is the answer. There's other great music out there. Sonic Youth and Gang of Four and Minutemen haven't been mentioned. But the answer to the question is Wire.

I'll have to wait for a reissue of 154 or hope one pops up for a reasonable price.

EDIT: Looks like Amazon has it for $17! That's less than half of where it was last time I checked.

[Progbear]

Get some stuff by The Passage. I don’t think I’ve ever heard such a blend of post-punk angst and classical music ideas—the way Dick Witts arranges synthesizers and uses orchestral percussion (tympani, glockenspiel, etc.) for sure shows off his classical music background. Note that his lyrics can be a bit “extreme” at times; at times I wonder, “does he really believe what he’s singing, or is he simply trying to be outrageously provocative?” Then again, you own Secondhand Daylight and have thus already heard “I will drug you and f*** you on the permafrost.” You’ll be fine!

They get compared to the Fall a lot, and you can hear that mainly on their earliest material (esp. the early EPs from the late 70s, where they were sharing some members). All four of their albums are good but my preferred disc is Enflame, also their most “extreme.” But any of them are guaranteed good*.

*to be honest, I still have yet to hear For All and None, but it tends to be as well-reviewed as the others, so I imagine it’s a safe purchase.

[zombywoof]

Then again, you own Secondhand Daylight and have thus already heard “I will drug you and f*** you on the permafrost.” You’ll be fine!

Procol Harum prepared me for cool songs with sadistic lyrics with "Still There'll Be More".

[NogbadTheBad]

Joy Division, Devo & Bauhaus

[chalkpie]

Wire is pretty killer indeed.

[gryphs also]

My problem is that The Stranglers and XTC (in my mind and definition) are so strong it makes everyone else seem second tier.....

[JKL2000]

Hi all! I've found myself drawn to this kind of stuff lately - sort of punk, but with a definite art (dare I progressive?) leaning. Off the top of my head, so far I have ...

This Heat - This Heat and Deceit
The Stranglers - The Raven
Magazine - Real Life and Secondhand Daylight
Public Image Limited - Second Edition (aka Metal Box)
Bowie - Scary Monsters

I also have all the Cardiacs stuff and XTC's Drums and Wires and Black Sea - if you want to consider those post punk (certainly in a similar vein).

So what else do I need?

Wha? Scary Monsters is Post Punk?

[zravkapt]

Not mentioned yet:

Mission Of Burma

[zombywoof]

Wha? Scary Monsters is Post Punk?

I've read it described as such

[zombywoof]

Joy Division, Devo & Bauhaus

Got my eye on Joy Division

[markwoll]

Got my eye on Joy Division

Don't skip Still, one of my favorites
Also the 'No New York' compilation
Chrome - Alien Soundtracks is kind of fun
Buzzcocks are pre Magazine but post enough

[Mythos]

Absolutely agree on Joy Division and their first release Unknown Pleasures!

Also add Chameleons: Script of the Bridge (It has some awesomely complex arrangements)
Don't forget the first Psychedelic Furs release, check out the song Imitation of Christ, it has the most bizarre swirling prog elements in it!
And as far as Stranglers go: I gotta go with Feline as nearly every song on it is great!

[Paulrus]

How about early Police? Some of their early instrumentals have that punky-yet-proggy slant to them.

[Trane]

haven't seen Television mentionned yet...

[Svetonio]

I'd like to recommend Serbian and ex-Yugoslavian band EKV






Above vids are only two songs that were recorded by them in English language.

This is actually my fav album by them, Ljubav ("Love") released in 1987 :

[iguana]

KiLLiNG JOKE.

i have contributed to these threads topics multiple times and i'll happily reiterate that much of it was my musical socialisation.

[JJ88]

Got my eye on Joy Division

Might as well get the Heart and Soul box...not as daunting as it sounds, as there's only really just over a year's worth of output, and some of their most well known songs weren't on their two 'proper' albums. This has most of what they recorded over that year or so.

I don't consider Bowie 'post punk'...Low in particular was arguably its single biggest influence in the first place IMHO.

[Svetonio]

Serbian and ex-Yugslavian post-punk band Disciplina Kičme; an old video clip from 80s.





An excellent full-lenght album by them released in 1983




...And an instrumental track from 1986

[alanterrill]

Get some stuff by The Passage. I don’t think I’ve ever heard such a blend of post-punk angst and classical music ideas—the way Dick Witts arranges synthesizers and uses orchestral percussion (tympani, glockenspiel, etc.) for sure shows off his classical music background. Note that his lyrics can be a bit “extreme” at times; at times I wonder, “does he really believe what he’s singing, or is he simply trying to be outrageously provocative?” Then again, you own Secondhand Daylight and have thus already heard “I will drug you and f*** you on the permafrost.” You’ll be fine!

They get compared to the Fall a lot, and you can hear that mainly on their earliest material (esp. the early EPs from the late 70s, where they were sharing some members). All four of their albums are good but my preferred disc is Enflame, also their most “extreme.” But any of them are guaranteed good*.

*to be honest, I still have yet to hear For All and None, but it tends to be as well-reviewed as the others, so I imagine it’s a safe purchase.

Wow! great to hear someone championing the Passage! I love them but I don't like more than a couple of tracks of Enflame -it's too much like dance music for my tastes, but I think 'For All and None' is by far their best, so you're missing out if you haven't heard it. And for those that haven't found it, LTM records carries all the Passage albums complete with many bonus tracks and also has a lot of other 'post-punk' bands you may have forgotten existed: http://www.ltmrecordings.com/catalogue.html

[Chain]

The Birthday Party, with Nick Cave and the wonderful Rowland S Howard