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    I’m a woman and I love Rush (and I am not alone)

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    I’m a woman and I love Rush (and I am not alone)
    Rush is a dude's band — that's the stereotype. But the band's "sincerity loop" has a wider appeal

    Annie Zaleski

    On Monday morning, Rush fans woke up to some rather unexpected news: “Rush Finally Make Rolling Stone‘s Cover.” Yes, after 41 years together, the erudite, prog-rock trio had finally earned a spot on the cover of the magazine that (until recent times) had not exactly been a huge supporter of its career. Although some fans were cynical about the story’s mere existence, Brian Hiatt’s feature lived up to expectations for me, as it was nuanced enough to please fans but also placed Rush in a larger cultural context and explained why the band deserved such a high-profile piece.

    The honor was even more timely, because the band is currently steamrolling across North America on the R40 Live 40th Anniversary Tour, playing selections from its entire career in backward chronological order. This run of dates is heavily rumored to be Rush’s last major tour of this caliber, so my husband and I knew we needed to make the drive to Columbus, Ohio, from Cleveland to catch the show. Of course, Rush didn’t disappoint: The notorious perfectionists blasted through a nearly note-perfect set, full of hilarious videos and elaborate multimedia elements — a “marathon, intense show” I noted in a review I filed with Ultimate Classic Rock.

    A funny thing happened when I started talking about the Rush concert on social media, however: Unprovoked, the tired clichés that have always plagued the band — and prog music in general — started cropping up. “I remember going to a [King] Crimson concert in the late ’90s and it was about 90% males. Prog doesn’t seem to attract many women,” an acquaintance wrote on a Facebook photo I posted from the show. Someone else tweeted my review and tagged it with the flippant note: “A woman went to a Rush show!” The latter quip in particular rankled me: In fact, this was actually the third time I’ve reviewed a Rush concert for a professional publication, and at the Columbus show, there were couples composed of men and women everywhere. (I wasn’t the only woman in the photo pit on assignment, either.) It was far from a sausagefest or any kind of gender-imbalanced event.

    Perhaps my irritation about all this also stemmed from the fact that I know so many women of all ages who are Rush fans. Today, the perception that the band’s supporters are still just nerdy, prog-loving guys is a yawn-worthy, outdated stereotype. (Of course, the other Facebook friend who asked, “What’s the ratio of balding-ponytail to air drumming?” at the show isn’t doing that stereotype any favors either. Besides, I saw much more impressive air-keyboarding going on in Columbus.) Out of curiosity, I put a casual call out on Facebook and asked which of my women pals were also Rush fans. The response was almost overwhelming, so much so that I couldn’t track down everyone suggested to me. While I knew of certain friends who were card-carrying, T-shirt-buying loyalists — I know this because I saw their photos from the R40 tour or had discussed prog with them before — I discovered plenty more who, unbeknownst to me, were also passionate supporters.

    How and when these women arrived at Rush fandom differ. Several got into the band because men in their lives were fans: boyfriends, guys their mom dated, a “dreamy lifeguard.” Some came to Rush on their own, in particular via the radio. These women first became aware of the band when they were teenagers; others became fervent appreciators in their 20s (and even later). The common thread to most of their responses, however, was the deeply personal relationship they had with Rush’s music and lyrics: Long after the circumstances that piqued their interest about the trio had faded away, the band continued to resonate on a deep, thoughtful level. These women claimed (or reclaimed) the idea and experience of Rush and made it completely their own.

    Everyone had a different story about what aspect of the Rush universe they most identified with, although the band’s lyrical gifts frequently received a nod. “That’s what Rush is really good at, telling stories,” said one friend, Erin Jameson. “And not just crazy, sweeping dystopian stories; they can also tell stories about being the weird kid in class. But the music also suits the stories. I can sit down and read the words to ‘Red Barchetta,’ and it’s a hell of a story, but it’s incomplete without the music beneath it.” My pal Emily Moore too singled out “Red Barchetta” and the band’s “literary bent. Rush was a new world. There was mystery to a lot of it … To a 13-year-old girl, these guys were deep thinkers and storytellers.” Another friend, Sarah Nank, pointed out how the band’s complexity enables its music to be more malleable. “The layers of Rush lyrics and [their] compositions keep peeling away to reveal new insights into relating to my own life. I’ve felt that way about some bands at certain points in my life. However, Rush has been consistently present and changes with me.”

    The idea that the band’s music delivers insights that evolve with time and life experience also rang true to Cat Pick, whose eighth-grade boyfriend introduced her to 1977′s “A Farewell to Kings,” the album containing “Closer to the Heart.” Years later, after becoming acquainted with a “superfan,” she finally saw Rush live, and realized their close ties to math-rock, a style of music she enjoyed. Rush’s ability to inspire other bands (and its looming impact on other genres) stands out to Casey Purtle, who calls the band “a dangerous gateway drug into the world of prog music … They are an indirect influence to [me] being awake at 2 a.m. checking out obscure Danish prog bands from the ’70s. Plus, many of my favorite bands from other genres, like Enslaved and Agalloch, are heavily influenced by them. Half of the Norwegian metal bands around today might not be around if there was no Rush.”

    As for me, my Rush appreciation came later in life, in my 20s. Growing up in Cleveland, where the band had radio support from the very start of its career from WMMS, its songs were just part of the city’s musical fabric. (In fact, the DJ/music director who deserves all the credit for championing Rush first? That would be a woman, Donna Halper.) But it wasn’t until I had the chance to see them live in 2010 and then heard 2012′s “Clockwork Angels” LP (which featured the string-swept, jangly “The Wreckers” and the snarling “Headlong Flight”) that Rush clicked for me. After that, I started going backward, gravitating toward the band’s synth-burned ’80s output and its atmosphere of isolation, smart (and still relevant) societal critiques and sense of disconnection from mainstream culture. Plus, I found both the band’s dry sense of humor and nonchalant absurdity delightful, smart and wry without being exclusive. In hindsight, I can see how my love of bands such as My Chemical Romance presaged how I’d come to embrace Rush.

    I’m heartened that my recent Rush experiences hint that the tide is turning toward a less rigid idea of Rush fandom. At the Columbus show, there were two young teenage girls seated several rows in front of us (who looked like they were there with a dad or at least father-type figure) who were especially excited for what the ’70s-focused second half was going to bring. And after my review ran, a proud dad made it a point to reach out to my Ultimate Classic Rock editor and ask that a video he took at the show be sent over to me, because he thought I’d appreciate it. The clip featured him and his 9-year-old daughter, excitedly singing along to “Red Barchetta” together. Clearly, the next generation(s) of Rush fans aren’t beholden to that pesky stereotype of what a Rush fan is or should be.

    More than that, discussing Rush with my female friends underscores that many of the reasons they like the band are no different than why so many men like Rush. Musical taste transcends gender: Saying a genre, movement or musical group appeals only to one narrow type belittles the subjective experience of finding joy and fulfillment through music. At the end of the day, a ferocious live concert appeals to the type of person who receives an emotional surge from having an ecstatic communal experience — and finding emotional connection — with a band. “[Rush] take it seriously where it counts, which is the music,” Jameson says. “The rest of it — the mini-movies, the interviews, the ‘Trailer Park Boys’ guest spots — are just them having a good time. And we, the fans, have a good time with them. They love what they’re doing. It matters to them and it makes what they do matter to us. It’s a big sincerity loop.”

    Annie Zaleski is a freelance writer based in Cleveland, Ohio.

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    Pretty sure down in Rio there was actual boobie flashing going on.

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    Wednesday, Jun 17, 2015 07:00 PM EST

    I’m a woman and I love Rush (and I am not alone)
    Rush is a dude's band — that's the stereotype. But the band's "sincerity loop" has a wider appeal

    Annie Zaleski

    On Monday morning, Rush fans woke up to some rather unexpected news: “Rush Finally Make Rolling Stone‘s Cover.” Yes, after 41 years together, the erudite, prog-rock trio had finally earned a spot on the cover of the magazine that (until recent times) had not exactly been a huge supporter of its career. Although some fans were cynical about the story’s mere existence, Brian Hiatt’s feature lived up to expectations for me, as it was nuanced enough to please fans but also placed Rush in a larger cultural context and explained why the band deserved such a high-profile piece.

    The honor was even more timely, because the band is currently steamrolling across North America on the R40 Live 40th Anniversary Tour, playing selections from its entire career in backward chronological order. This run of dates is heavily rumored to be Rush’s last major tour of this caliber, so my husband and I knew we needed to make the drive to Columbus, Ohio, from Cleveland to catch the show. Of course, Rush didn’t disappoint: The notorious perfectionists blasted through a nearly note-perfect set, full of hilarious videos and elaborate multimedia elements — a “marathon, intense show” I noted in a review I filed with Ultimate Classic Rock.

    A funny thing happened when I started talking about the Rush concert on social media, however: Unprovoked, the tired clichés that have always plagued the band — and prog music in general — started cropping up. “I remember going to a [King] Crimson concert in the late ’90s and it was about 90% males. Prog doesn’t seem to attract many women,” an acquaintance wrote on a Facebook photo I posted from the show. Someone else tweeted my review and tagged it with the flippant note: “A woman went to a Rush show!” The latter quip in particular rankled me: In fact, this was actually the third time I’ve reviewed a Rush concert for a professional publication, and at the Columbus show, there were couples composed of men and women everywhere. (I wasn’t the only woman in the photo pit on assignment, either.) It was far from a sausagefest or any kind of gender-imbalanced event.

    Perhaps my irritation about all this also stemmed from the fact that I know so many women of all ages who are Rush fans. Today, the perception that the band’s supporters are still just nerdy, prog-loving guys is a yawn-worthy, outdated stereotype. (Of course, the other Facebook friend who asked, “What’s the ratio of balding-ponytail to air drumming?” at the show isn’t doing that stereotype any favors either. Besides, I saw much more impressive air-keyboarding going on in Columbus.) Out of curiosity, I put a casual call out on Facebook and asked which of my women pals were also Rush fans. The response was almost overwhelming, so much so that I couldn’t track down everyone suggested to me. While I knew of certain friends who were card-carrying, T-shirt-buying loyalists — I know this because I saw their photos from the R40 tour or had discussed prog with them before — I discovered plenty more who, unbeknownst to me, were also passionate supporters.

    How and when these women arrived at Rush fandom differ. Several got into the band because men in their lives were fans: boyfriends, guys their mom dated, a “dreamy lifeguard.” Some came to Rush on their own, in particular via the radio. These women first became aware of the band when they were teenagers; others became fervent appreciators in their 20s (and even later). The common thread to most of their responses, however, was the deeply personal relationship they had with Rush’s music and lyrics: Long after the circumstances that piqued their interest about the trio had faded away, the band continued to resonate on a deep, thoughtful level. These women claimed (or reclaimed) the idea and experience of Rush and made it completely their own.

    Everyone had a different story about what aspect of the Rush universe they most identified with, although the band’s lyrical gifts frequently received a nod. “That’s what Rush is really good at, telling stories,” said one friend, Erin Jameson. “And not just crazy, sweeping dystopian stories; they can also tell stories about being the weird kid in class. But the music also suits the stories. I can sit down and read the words to ‘Red Barchetta,’ and it’s a hell of a story, but it’s incomplete without the music beneath it.” My pal Emily Moore too singled out “Red Barchetta” and the band’s “literary bent. Rush was a new world. There was mystery to a lot of it … To a 13-year-old girl, these guys were deep thinkers and storytellers.” Another friend, Sarah Nank, pointed out how the band’s complexity enables its music to be more malleable. “The layers of Rush lyrics and [their] compositions keep peeling away to reveal new insights into relating to my own life. I’ve felt that way about some bands at certain points in my life. However, Rush has been consistently present and changes with me.”

    The idea that the band’s music delivers insights that evolve with time and life experience also rang true to Cat Pick, whose eighth-grade boyfriend introduced her to 1977′s “A Farewell to Kings,” the album containing “Closer to the Heart.” Years later, after becoming acquainted with a “superfan,” she finally saw Rush live, and realized their close ties to math-rock, a style of music she enjoyed. Rush’s ability to inspire other bands (and its looming impact on other genres) stands out to Casey Purtle, who calls the band “a dangerous gateway drug into the world of prog music … They are an indirect influence to [me] being awake at 2 a.m. checking out obscure Danish prog bands from the ’70s. Plus, many of my favorite bands from other genres, like Enslaved and Agalloch, are heavily influenced by them. Half of the Norwegian metal bands around today might not be around if there was no Rush.”

    As for me, my Rush appreciation came later in life, in my 20s. Growing up in Cleveland, where the band had radio support from the very start of its career from WMMS, its songs were just part of the city’s musical fabric. (In fact, the DJ/music director who deserves all the credit for championing Rush first? That would be a woman, Donna Halper.) But it wasn’t until I had the chance to see them live in 2010 and then heard 2012′s “Clockwork Angels” LP (which featured the string-swept, jangly “The Wreckers” and the snarling “Headlong Flight”) that Rush clicked for me. After that, I started going backward, gravitating toward the band’s synth-burned ’80s output and its atmosphere of isolation, smart (and still relevant) societal critiques and sense of disconnection from mainstream culture. Plus, I found both the band’s dry sense of humor and nonchalant absurdity delightful, smart and wry without being exclusive. In hindsight, I can see how my love of bands such as My Chemical Romance presaged how I’d come to embrace Rush.

    I’m heartened that my recent Rush experiences hint that the tide is turning toward a less rigid idea of Rush fandom. At the Columbus show, there were two young teenage girls seated several rows in front of us (who looked like they were there with a dad or at least father-type figure) who were especially excited for what the ’70s-focused second half was going to bring. And after my review ran, a proud dad made it a point to reach out to my Ultimate Classic Rock editor and ask that a video he took at the show be sent over to me, because he thought I’d appreciate it. The clip featured him and his 9-year-old daughter, excitedly singing along to “Red Barchetta” together. Clearly, the next generation(s) of Rush fans aren’t beholden to that pesky stereotype of what a Rush fan is or should be.

    More than that, discussing Rush with my female friends underscores that many of the reasons they like the band are no different than why so many men like Rush. Musical taste transcends gender: Saying a genre, movement or musical group appeals only to one narrow type belittles the subjective experience of finding joy and fulfillment through music. At the end of the day, a ferocious live concert appeals to the type of person who receives an emotional surge from having an ecstatic communal experience — and finding emotional connection — with a band. “[Rush] take it seriously where it counts, which is the music,” Jameson says. “The rest of it — the mini-movies, the interviews, the ‘Trailer Park Boys’ guest spots — are just them having a good time. And we, the fans, have a good time with them. They love what they’re doing. It matters to them and it makes what they do matter to us. It’s a big sincerity loop.”

    Annie Zaleski is a freelance writer based in Cleveland, Ohio.
    Incredible article Annie. Rush has always had a pretty good female fan represntation, as was evident on the last YES and Moodies shows I saw. It's so cool to hear stories of Dad's sharing their love for these bands too. My favorite part of your article: Hearing(or actually reading) a woman use the term "SausageFest"!. I remember first hearing that term from my friend at an Opeth show. and let me tell you that one was 99% sausage!

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    The stereotypical view, and it probably has some basis in fact, though there are many exceptions, is: Male popular music fans are fans because of the music, while female fans are fans because of who is singing it. I'm not sure why this should be. You'd think that males would slaver over hot chicks performing, in the same way that young girls swoon over One Direction and Justin Bieber - and their ancestors, the Beatles and the Monkees. Yet this seems not to be the case. Rather, young males seem to like hard rockin' toons - or these days, tough rap - without regard to how good-looking or ugly the performer is. Perhaps they are trying to project a tough guy image in the hope of showing their own girlfriends how manly they are. It's possibly also the reason why so many gay males are not into rock at all, Most of their idols in fact seem to be female, eg Barbra Streisand, Donna Summer, Dusty Springfield. Clearly it's not the sexual attraction, so I can only assume it's a way of asserting how different they are from their straight contemporaries.

    I have never bought into any of this nonsense about embracing a certain type of music to fit in with a certain social group. Why shouldn't a woman like Rush? And why shouldn't a man NOT like Rush? I like a handful of their songs, but overall I find them to be a bit one-dimensional. They are way better than most of the generic adult-oriented rock, but after I hear them played on Alice Cooper's show (he features them quite a lot) I find myself thinking "Hmmm - OK - now I need to hear something by Genesis or Porcupine tree or Anathema or Yes or Opeth."

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    There have been a LOT more female rock role models (so to speak) over the last 20 years than in the 70s. I think the notion that rock music is a guy thing and it's all about dicks (either having one or wanting one) is pretty much gone. Although I suppose Dave Coverdale and The Darkness are still around, so... almost.

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    My Wife LOVES Rush and has seen them 8 times !...Yeah, I turned her onto them but once she was hooked, she ran with it !

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    It makes sense that RUSH would have their share of female fans. I think any major band would. As far as popularity for a prog band goes I would rank RUSH number three behind Pink Floyd and Genesis. It still seems to me that at least 80 percent of RUSH fans are male but when you have that large of a fan base there still is going to be a good number of females in there. I am going to meet up with about 12 people before the show and all of them are male unless some of them bring their girlfriends or wives.
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    My wife loves Rush as much as i do, i must be gay as shit because i love Dusty Springfield, i guess it had to come out sometime.

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    I have always hated lazy stereotyping when it comes to music. Why shouldn't women enjoy progressive music, or any other, and why should they be made to feel 'other' for doing so? The article is quite right to point this out.

    I do remember one instance seeing a young woman wearing a Univers Zero T-shirt!

    Quote Originally Posted by trurl View Post
    There have been a LOT more female rock role models (so to speak) over the last 20 years than in the 70s. I think the notion that rock music is a guy thing and it's all about dicks (either having one or wanting one) is pretty much gone. Although I suppose Dave Coverdale and The Darkness are still around, so... almost.
    Well even then, look at recent footage of David Coverdale performing, and there's lots of women in the crowd.
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    Well, in my experience, the women who I've met who are fans of Rush are fans because some man in their life introduced them to her. I have yet to meet a woman who got into Rush otherwise. It is part of why the stereotype persists.

    But, as you say, many find personal meaning in the band that goes beyond any relationship they might have been in. For example, my wife listens to "The Pass" and wishes her teen self was exposed to it.

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    Well even then, look at recent footage of David Coverdale performing, and there's lots of women in the crowd.
    Well I know, but I'm saying that's in the era of cock rock.

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    My girlfriend likes Rush and some other mainstream prog acts. Not sure whether an old boyfriend introduced her to them or not. Maybe she just heard them on Classic Rock radio stations.

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    As a homo let me just say I like Rush ---and mostly like "dude prog bands"----(some of the symphonic prog is pretty grandiose gay yet no female fans lol) there are woman in the audience at prog concerts I go to but not many---not too many homo's either as far as I can tell---I took a female friend to Hackett's Revisited tour and she was completely hot for the guys in his band---the drummer, bass player and horn player specifically ---it was crazy how much she liked them lol--other then his band the female fans have to be into the music---because there are not many prog bands with sex appeal. But prog isn't really sexy rock and roll but I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2steves View Post
    other then his band the female fans have to be into the music---because there are not many prog bands with sex appeal. But prog isn't really sexy rock and roll but I like it.
    my Gay-supporting, prog-hating fiancee would agree with this.

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    I think a lot of resentment towards prog is rooted in the fact it isn't "sexy," also that it is often more middle class than working class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_32_116 View Post
    It's possibly also the reason why so many gay males are not into rock at all
    Good thing you said "so many" and not "all" or we'd be having words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notallwhowander View Post
    more middle class than working class.
    Middle Class is Working Class where I come from.

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    Chiming in as a female prog fan, I found both prog and Rush all on my own.

    I live in Canada so Rush and "entry level prog" (Pink Floyd, Genesis) was regularly played on rock radio at the time ... Rush were also the hometown boys and Canadian content... you couldn't miss them really.

    I think I was just a person more interested in musical discovery than my other friends, male or female. They bought their copies of Collins / pop-era Genesis and were happy with that whereas I wasn't? I was drawn to older stuff before my time ... and would actively search it out.

    My interest in prog also descends directly from my interest in classical music ... the complexity, the themes, the grandeur ... and for this reason it surprises me that not more women like it ... because it's like classical music.

    The fact that they could really play their instruments at a high level was really important. And the lyrics were thoughtful and intelligent.

    And then there's their aspirational aspect to the band one can't help but admire ... how they managed to go from being a knuckle-dragging cromag metal band (which they themselves have parodied in their Time Machine video) to reinventing themselves as "intellectuals" LOL - quite the trick.

    So the "more middle class than working class" comment is totally relevant... and is the thesis of a book published back in 2009 called "Rush, Rock Music, and the Middle Class: Dreaming in Middletown"

    http://www.amazon.com/Rush-Rock-Musi.../dp/0253221498

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    "Rolling Stone decides it can make some money by pretending to like Rush, so pretends to like Rush."
    Rolling Stone (and Salon) writers and editors who like Rush can finally publish more than a couple of paragraphs about them due to the current market.

    I've never noticed a lack of women at Rush concerts. When I started going to concerts back in the early 80s there were plenty of concerts that had overwhelmingly male audiences but Rush weren't one of them. I don't think that there's anything particularly male-centric about a lot of progressive rock, and it's telling that popular progressive bands (Marillion, Porcupine Tree) have broad gender-neutral appeal while many less well-known bands do not. It's probably simply safer for a young man to go to a concert on their own and the less well-known a band is, the less likely one is to have a friend who wants to go to the show with you.

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    But prog isn't really sexy rock and roll
    Not even this?


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    I think a lot of resentment towards prog is rooted in the fact it isn't "sexy,"

    What about Emerson, in his skin tight leather outfits, fondling his ribbon controller, ramming his phallic daggers into his organ and then humping it?










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    Quote Originally Posted by yesterdays View Post
    Chiming in as a female prog fan, I found both prog and Rush all on my own.
    And you are astute enough to separate them



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