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    Question - what's the point of spending on a deep bullpen when essentially every manager goes full on "Kershaw" and ignores the pen when the playoffs are on the line and brings <insert starter on reduced rest> into the game.... Usually with poor results too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MudShark22 View Post
    Question - what's the point of spending on a deep bullpen when essentially every manager goes full on "Kershaw" and ignores the pen when the playoffs are on the line and brings <insert starter on reduced rest> into the game.... Usually with poor results too.
    I think the most obvious possible explanation is that your front line starters are counted on as innings eaters, but during the regular season you can’t afford to have your starters enter just any old game because that throws off their schedule long term. But if you absolutely have to win one game, you trust your aces most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MudShark22 View Post
    Question - what's the point of spending on a deep bullpen when essentially every manager goes full on "Kershaw" and ignores the pen when the playoffs are on the line and brings <insert starter on reduced rest> into the game.... Usually with poor results too.
    New York did the complete opposite of that. Similar results, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Why would all these players want to leave. The Yankees are like the Patriots, they are in a weak division and took advantage of it. Without the Orioles they may not have even made the playoffs,and they are going to suck for the next couple years at least. I'm hoping we get $4 Redskin tickets so you can afford to take the family to a game.
    Not that they would want to leave, but even the Yanks can't be giving $20 mil per for all these guys

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    Woah, Angels sign Anthony Rendon for 7/245. While this is some serious protection for Trout, I think this is a mistake unless LA really beefs up their pitching. (Supposedly they are looking to trade for Kluwer or Carrasco).

    Roark signed today as well so 14 of the top 20 FAs are already signed!

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    1. Gerrit Cole - Yanks
    2. Anthony Rendon - Angels
    3. Stephen Strasburg - Nats
    4. Zach Wheeler - Phillies
    5. Josh Donaldson
    6. Madison Bumgarner
    7. Yasmani Grandal - White Sox
    8. Nicholas Castellanos
    9. Hyun-Jin Ryu
    10. Jake Odorizzi - Twins
    11. Marcell Ozuna
    12. Didi Gregorius - Phillies
    13. Will Smith - Braves
    14. Dallas Keuchel
    15. Cole Hamels - Braves
    16. Jose Abreu - White Sox
    17. Michael Pineda - Twins
    18. Mike Moustakas - Reds
    19. Kyle Gibson - Rangers
    20. Tanner Roark - Blue Jays
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poisoned Youth View Post
    I think the most obvious possible explanation is that your front line starters are counted on as innings eaters, but during the regular season you can’t afford to have your starters enter just any old game because that throws off their schedule long term. But if you absolutely have to win one game, you trust your aces most.
    While I understand the inning management angle, its the lack of familiarity in the moment/situation.

    Pundits talk about relievers all the time who can only start innings not enter in the middle. These blame it on "comfortability" and familiarity with their role etc

    So why, in a sport that values consistency and going by the book, and in an era of specialists, does a now suddenly "'riverboat ron'" manager throw it all out the window? To bring in a pitcher (likely a #1 or #2) who is going on short rest AND as an ace, also likely to have thrown 85+ pitches maybe only 48 hours (or less) ago into a scenario (where as Cozy said) you wouldn't ever use him and lacks familiarity and routine?

    If its that important a moment, that's when you bring in your closer...i guess i still watch baseball in a pre-LaRussa / Eck mindset so this shit really boggles my mind.
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    Seems like the $30 million-plus-per-year contract is becoming a normal thing.
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    think a big part of it is you don't have to worry about overworking your guys when the finish line is in sight
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    Quote Originally Posted by MudShark22 View Post
    While I understand the inning management angle, its the lack of familiarity in the moment/situation.
    Good point. Personally I think that applies more to relievers than starters. Starters have to deal with just about every situation except for coming in with men on base. And it's usually in that area where they have trouble.

    But we may be entering a new era as "openers" become more common. Typically the teams that have used them do so when they don't think their starter can go more than 6 innings. I also think situational pitching will become the norm. With top end starters making 20m+/yr, the low and mid market teams have to get creative about their rotations.


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    Seems like the $30 million-plus-per-year contract is becoming a normal thing.
    Yeah, pretty interesting considering that last season the vast majority of contracts were 3-4 years and under $75. I think the exceptions were Harper, Machado, and Corbin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poisoned Youth View Post

    But we may be entering a new era as "openers" become more common.
    I just don't get the rationale for openers. You're basically burning one of your best relievers for an inning or possibly two, then the team brings in someone who is usually called on to eat 3-5 innings. Well if he has a bad day, you've wasted one of you're better relievers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    Seems like the $30 million-plus-per-year contract is becoming a normal thing.
    I guess that $14 beer and $8 hot dog are going to be getting a bit more expensive.

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    For some perspective, Cole's new contract will earn him more than $98,000.00 every day of the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    For some perspective, Cole's new contract will earn him more than $98,000.00 every day of the year.
    Not bad for 33 days work. And he usually clocks out 2/3 of the way through the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangram View Post
    I guess that $14 beer and $8 hot dog are going to be getting a bit more expensive.
    They're going to give the ushers two-pronged spears...like we used for spearing suckers on Summer nights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangram View Post
    I just don't get the rationale for openers. You're basically burning one of your best relievers for an inning or possibly two, then the team brings in someone who is usually called on to eat 3-5 innings. Well if he has a bad day, you've wasted one of you're better relievers.
    basically I think it's because the first three hitters in the lineup are gonna be the best guys & you don't really want your starter facing them 3 times
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    Freshly shaved and he brought the sign.

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    Computer plate umps allowed in new labor deal

    On a related note (from the same article with my emphasis added): There were 1,356 video reviews during the 2019 regular season, taking an average of 1 minute, 16 seconds. MLB said 597 calls or 44% were overturned, 277 or 20% confirmed and 463 or 34% allowed to stand because there was not enough evidence to confirm or overturned. The remaining 19 calls were for rules checks or record keeping.
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    I think I read he has no MLB experience:

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    Some pretty interesting stats here:

    2019 statistical feats and oddities for each team
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    Some pretty interesting stats here:

    2019 statistical feats and oddities for each team
    I think Stevie Wilkerson was also the first person to get credit for a save who played the whole game.
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    Gotta say, there have been a lot of interesting moves over the last two weeks. It has not been a boring off-season at all. Seems like a lot of teams are giving it a go. Look out for the White Sox in 2020. Even the Jays are making some waves. The Red Sox, not so much and do seem a bit behind the 8-ball. Still trying to make a deal with Mookie and, apparently, looking to move Price. I'm not ready to call this a rebuilding year for them, because they are a smart organization. But, it might be a pause year.
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    Dellin Betances inks a one-year deal with the Mets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    Dellin Betances inks a one-year deal with the Mets.
    Not liking the ‘Cole can save the world and let’s cut everyone else’ winter the Yankeesare having

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    Not liking the ‘Cole can save the world and let’s cut everyone else’ winter the Yankeesare having
    Luckily, that's not their plan.

    Betances' has to prove he's healthy. They know his health better than anyone else. He has an achilles injury that was not surgically repaired. He's a strikeout machine, but has had control issues his entire career. I have yet to be convinced he can handle high-pressure situations. They are not done dealing and have other relievers in their sights. And they have some very good young arms in the system.

    They simply had no money for Did, either. His qualifying offer was $17million and their infield was already too crowded. They have enough talent.

    Pretty much everyone has been calling them the 2020 favorite even without Betances signed. I'm not worried. They are better now than they were last year when they won 103 games, had tons of injuries and had neither their ace nor Betances the entire season.
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    Any thoughts on the depleting of the minor league system?

    Not a fan of the writer, but a good piece, nonetheless.

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