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    Iconic Places Lost - I'm Bummed

    Just a month or two ago we lost Bonnie Springs/Old Nevada so it can be built into expensive houses. This place was here long before I was born 50 years ago. Really cool place, with the Old Nevada part with the re-enacting of a hanging for a shooting in the old west and getting your picture taken in old western garb then shooting some sasparilla - huh, can't speel that word right - then get some grub at the nearby restaurant and either ride some horses or check out the little zoo they had there.

    Really cool place, now it's gonna be bloody expensive houses. Should have been a historical place but alas, that didn't happen.

    Now we are losing Macayo's. This is comfort food for me as I've been eating there as long as I've been alive. Not the most authentic Mexican food but that doesn't matter. It's been a staple of my life for 50 years.

    I truly lived off of their chip salsa the brief time I lived in Santa Fe. They only have restaurants in the Phoenix area now but I'm kinda getting pissed at losing these things that made my home what it is. These places are cultural and shouldn't be lost is all I'm saying.

    So I'm a little buzzed. Gimme a break. I miss my old town.

    I'm not totally wrong here even though I do wonder about the financial's of what happened to Macayo's. That's been a interesting topic for a few years about what's been up with them as they closed the store near my house a few years ago. Seemingly for no reason as it had been there for 40 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLoony View Post
    Just a month or two ago we lost Bonnie Springs/Old Nevada so it can be built into expensive houses. This place was here long before I was born 50 years ago. Really cool place, with the Old Nevada part with the re-enacting of a hanging for a shooting in the old west and getting your picture taken in old western garb then shooting some sasparilla - huh, can't speel that word right - then get some grub at the nearby restaurant and either ride some horses or check out the little zoo they had there.

    Really cool place, now it's gonna be bloody expensive houses. Should have been a historical place but alas, that didn't happen.

    Now we are losing Macayo's. This is comfort food for me as I've been eating there as long as I've been alive. Not the most authentic Mexican food but that doesn't matter. It's been a staple of my life for 50 years.

    I truly lived off of their chip salsa the brief time I lived in Santa Fe. They only have restaurants in the Phoenix area now but I'm kinda getting pissed at losing these things that made my home what it is. These places are cultural and shouldn't be lost is all I'm saying.

    So I'm a little buzzed. Gimme a break. I miss my old town.

    I'm not totally wrong here even though I do wonder about the financial's of what happened to Macayo's. That's been a interesting topic for a few years about what's been up with them as they closed the store near my house a few years ago. Seemingly for no reason as it had been there for 40 years.
    There was a Macayo's by me (North Scottsdale) that closed about a year ago. Now, I have to drive a good 25 minutes to get to one.

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    Whoa, they are closing down there too? Frak, I better stock up on their chip sauce as it seems the whole shebang is going down. I can't live without that sauce.

    Wait, this seems wrong somehow. I could buy their sauce in a supermarket in Santa Fe where there are no Macayo's, so they have a distribution network in the southwest.

    While not huge, that's still pretty big. Walter White's territory and he did pretty well.

    Huh, I really don't know my sis just told me it's a big thing on facebook and I ain't there and haven't looked it up myself.
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    Took a quick look. Macayo's has been here for 59 years. In this city, that's really old considering it didn't exist until 1905. It took gambling in 34/35 or so to make this into a town then it became a city in the '90's. You guys have hundreds of years of history, I have a few Mormons who came here and somehow made this into a city(and they really did BTW, some interesting history there).

    Wow.

    This place means so much to me. It's weird to get so emotional about a freaking restaurant. But that smooth sauce..................
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    Welcome to what some call "progress" and others call "razing."

    Hope you're not a fan of Antarctica ice shelfs, because they're going away, too.
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    A lot of the places that made Florida kind of charming and that enticed people to move, or at least visit, there (Parrot Jungle, the Serpentarium, Cypress Gardens, and other roadside attractions) have closed or changed. In Pennsylvania, the Poconos had an amazing assortment of four-season resorts the accommodated honeymooners (she-who-must-be-obeyed and I, for two) and family vacationers. They are all gone. Never having been there, I guess the same could be said for the Catskills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    Welcome to what some call "progress" and others call "razing."

    Hope you're not a fan of Antarctica ice shelfs, because they're going away, too.

    I'm sure TheLoony will be able to locate enough ice to last his lifetime. No guarantees about a lifetime supply of Macayo's sauce for him, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lopez View Post
    A lot of the places that made Florida kind of charming and that enticed people to move, or at least visit, there (Parrot Jungle, the Serpentarium, Cypress Gardens, and other roadside attractions) have closed or changed. In Pennsylvania, the Poconos had an amazing assortment of four-season resorts the accommodated honeymooners (she-who-must-be-obeyed and I, for two) and family vacationers. They are all gone. Never having been there, I guess the same could be said for the Catskills.
    Is Cypress Gardens gone? If so, bummer. That place was beautiful.

    I'm surprised the Poconos resorts are gone, considering how many New Yorkers seem to like the region.
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    I live in Nevada, apparently far north of TheLoony, and have never been to Bonnie Springs/Old Nevada. Sounds like someplace I'd like to go, if they weren't tearing it down. There's lots of desert; why build new homes there? But they're building the hell out of every city up here, too. People who live here want it to stay the size it is, if we can't go back to the size it was when we got here. Doesn't seem to matter to the developers that these cities have no jobs. They build anyway. When you mention the lack of jobs, they agree there are no jobs in the city; haven't been many since 2006. They want these cities to be bedroom communities for people who work at the Tesla factory. Fuck that. If they want to work in Storey County, let them live in Storey County. It's a pretty place.

    As for Macayo's, I never heard of it. But most of the restaurants that were here for many years have all gone under. And the new ones that open usually don't last long. People either find out they aren't good, or they find out they can't afford their prices. Sometimes places close before I even know they are there. And many places that used to house restaurants now sit vacant.

    At least, we haven't lost any historic places in Northern Nevada, that I know of. Las Vegas hotel-casinos have been torn down and rebuilt many times in the 40 years since I was last there. Nevada's first town, Genoa, is still here. The settlement that used to be known as Mormon Station, after its settlers, is paradoxically home of the oldest continuously functioning bar in the state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruno View Post
    I'm sure TheLoony will be able to locate enough ice to last his lifetime. No guarantees about a lifetime supply of Macayo's sauce for him, though.
    They take that sauce away from me I'm going postal. Just sayin'.

    If you had asked me one of the places here that you should see Bonnie Springs was what I would tell you to check out. They are building homes for the rich over a cultural landmark, a piece of my youth and adulthood also. I never thought they would tear it down.

    I feel like Ray Davies in Come Dancin'. They tore the pally away.
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    The summer between college and my last year of high school, my family spent a few days in Vegas. That's 1975, and all the classic hotels still were around. It was a blast, the place still had a little bit of that mob mentality. Me and my brother ran around the Strip some, getting kicked out of casinos, hitting the buffet at Circus Circus, and watching a jai alai match. There was betting so of course, Vinnie and Sal eventually showed us the door. But it was a freaking blast.

    Went back about ten years ago and all the old places are gone, there's this corporate sheen to everything, and a lot of the energy seemed manufactured. The only improvement seemed to be the food - I ate meals I could only compare to my experience in NYC. But I'm with Loony, the town eats its own heritage on a regular basis.
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    Being 74, I vividly remember the hotel/resorts of the Catskills (known by most New York Jews back then as the Jewish Alps and to NY Gentiles as the "Mockie Mountains") like Grossinger's & the Concord, and my parents & I went to Grossinger's a few times.

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    Geezer, did you ever go to the Palladium in Manhattan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    Geezer, did you ever go to the Palladium in Manhattan?
    I saw 2 or 3 movies at the Palladium before it was the Palladium (it was the Academy of Music). I was in the Navy when the Stones played there in 1965, and by the time Steve "Cocaine" Rubell from Studio 54 bought it and started regular concerts there I had moved to Maine before I wound up in Madison in 1971.
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    I was thinking of the mambo Palladium, with Tito Puente and all those crazy dudes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    I was thinking of the mambo Palladium, with Tito Puente and all those crazy dudes.
    My parents (both Jews-go figure) actually were competitive dancers and dance instructors and Latin dance was their thing. They did go to that Palladium to see Puente, Tito Rodriguez, Cugat and others, but I was always home with the sitter.
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    I have been to Vegas many times over the years, but for some reason we never made it out to Bonnie Springs. It was something I was always curious about, and on my radar, but I guess it is too late now.

    It is amazing how quickly things turn around. I am on a Facebook site dedicated to the history of my hometown. A while back someone posted a newspaper article that ranked the 40 best restaurants in town from 1976 (when I was in high school). Amazingly, from that list there was only one of those restaurants left in 2018, and that one just closed about a month ago.

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    I hear you Loony.

    I was devastated when they closed 60 year old Maneros steakhouse in Greenwich Ct.

    This place was legendary, now its overpriced condos!
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    Quote Originally Posted by progeezer View Post
    Borscht that would make you plotz!
    Really loosens up the pipes, eh?

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    You know what drives me crazy along these lines? When they take my favorite things off the menu at a restaurant. For years, my favorite "treat" breakfast was the silver dollar pancakes and corned beef hash at (what was then) the International House of Pancakes. "IHoP" no longer sells either of these items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturgeon's Lawyer View Post
    You know what drives me crazy along these lines? When they take my favorite things off the menu at a restaurant. For years, my favorite "treat" breakfast was the silver dollar pancakes and corned beef hash at (what was then) the International House of Pancakes. "IHoP" no longer sells either of these items.
    Yep. We took my daughter to Chili's for her birthday dinner and they didn't have her favorite dish on it. I understand the need to keep things fresh, but something like enchiladas at a Tex/Mex restaurant seems like it should remain a staple of their menu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progeezer View Post
    My parents (both Jews-go figure) actually were competitive dancers and dance instructors and Latin dance was their thing. They did go to that Palladium to see Puente, Tito Rodriguez, Cugat and others, but I was always home with the sitter.
    Hey, you can still count on a good old fashioned Banya...sweating it out with Orthodox Jews, hipsters, and homosexuals. (been there; done that)

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    Speaking of venerable NY instututions, if you're not a vegetarian, Katz's Delicatessen (since 1888) is IMO a must-go, wonderful, time-warp, delicious experience. I've stuffed myself there on my last two visits to NYC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddhabreath View Post
    Speaking of venerable NY instututions, if you're not a vegetarian, Katz's Delicatessen (since 1888) is IMO a must-go, wonderful, time-warp, delicious experience. I've stuffed myself there on my last two visits to NYC.
    I order corned beef, pastrami & potato knishes twice a year from Katz's. I wince but bite the bullet on both the prices and the refrigerated shipping.

    As a little Yiddle, my parents used to make a Sunday of the 3 of us driving over the Koscuiuszko Bridge from Queens into lower Manhattan and going both to Katz's to eat and to S. Ershowsky the kosher butcher (even though we all ate bacon).
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    There was a famous Jewish deli on Miami Beach for many decades called Wolfie's. I never tried it. It's been gone for a few years now. A shame.

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