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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    Then again, the only dramatic change that occured throughout their discography (outside the Cockayne album) was between Vol 2 and Third...
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    ^Well, not really.
    I submit that Dean's exit and replacement by Jenkins was a BIG change.
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    The only SM album I can play if my wife is in the house!

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    Funny about the wife comment - when I was in college my girlfriend used to request Third when things got ... ahem... frisky. How about that for WACK. Made my night great. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phlakaton View Post
    Funny about the wife comment - when I was in college my girlfriend used to request Third when things got ... ahem... frisky. How about that for WACK. Made my night great. :P
    Do you think maybe she was requesting a third person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Do you think maybe she was requesting a third person.
    LMAO. I'll leave it up to you to run with that. I had a lot of fun then.

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    Was it Backwards she liked?

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    So..she wanted "it" Slightly All The Time?.........lucky guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Do you think maybe she was requesting a third person.
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    Count me as another fan of the early SM, as well as the fusion versions.

    Bundles is a killer of an album. Holdsworth was a revelation.

    For those that have a problem with the fusion version of SM, is it because you don't like fusion? Or does have to do with it not sounding like early SM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by simon moon View Post

    For those that have a problem with the fusion version of SM, is it because you don't like fusion? Or does have to do with it not sounding like early SM?
    I like me some fusion.All i can say is that when i first heard Holdsworth's playing on Bundles, something just didn't click for me.Perhaps a musician or someone more articulate than i can explain it better,but i couldn't get into it.No disrespect meant to Holdsworth,but, for me, guitar(in this style) in Soft Machine wasn't a good match.(emphasis on "for me").

    I love "Seven" and that sounds very little like early SM.

    Go figger.
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    Love this album and would rank it after Third and Seven when it comes to SM's studio albums.
    Nucleus seemed like it was the farm team as it were for Soft Machine, but the problem with that statement is that Nucleus were just as good in my opinion. Four of the five members on Bundles played for Nucleus first, Ratledge being the exception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simon moon View Post
    For those that have a problem with the fusion version of SM, is it because you don't like fusion? Or does have to do with it not sounding like early SM?
    Both. In general, I dug late 60s/early70s Jazz-Rock (including SM up through Seven) but was not big on the increasingly generic mondo guitaroid mid-70s Fusion, which Bundles exemplifies to its detriment, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NogbadTheBad View Post
    As Long As He Lies Perfectly Still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    Then again, the only dramatic change that occured throughout their discography (outside the Cockayne album) was between Vol 2 and Third, when the line-up was still mainly original members (well, Wyatt and Ratledge anyways)...
    ever since Third, their evolution was a relatively slow and coherent process... IMHO anyways
    Wyatt leaving after Fourth and forming Matching Mole while the band became almost entirely instrumental seems overlooked in this "analogy."

    Quote Originally Posted by mogrooves View Post
    I submit that Dean's exit and replacement by Jenkins was a BIG change.
    Agreed.

    I suppose it could be argued that compared to Dean he was Kenny G.

    That's an exaggeration, of course. I appreciate his style and subtleties, but the change was certainly big.

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    for me, Jazz Rock is just Jazz if it does not have Synthesizers and/or Rock Guitar

    of course, if it has backbeat style Rock Drums then it is Rock as well, but gimme Synthesizers *and* Rock Guitar in my Jazz Rock or it's just Jazz to me

    Bundles kicks mighty butt whereas the earlier SM works are interesting but a bit too close to Jazz
    Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?

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    Bundles of Joy for me.

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    My review of Esoteric reissue here.

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    Our second biggest ever reissue in terms of sales guys, just after below Hawkwinds "Warrior".

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    ^Like I said, I remember a lot of discussion on the old forum when you put this one out.

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    Funny about the wife comment - when I was in college my girlfriend used to request Third when things got ... ahem... frisky. How about that for WACK. Made my night great. :P
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    My feeling these days is that, whilst this is a very good album by any standard, they perhaps should have thought about changing the name by this point. The relation to the original Soft Machine is pretty much null-and-void musically, with Ratledge contributing less and less. It's Holdsworth's (and then John Etheridge's) guitar which really makes the difference.

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    Yes except IOU wouldn't have been an appropriate name since Holdsy didn't write all the material. SM was an established brand with market penetration; you can't blame them for holding onto the name even as they tinkered with the musical direction.

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