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Last edited by PeterG; 05-27-2014 at 05:36 AM.
Taking a page out of lists for Jazz and Classical, I think any list of Big 5 or Big 10 or whoever should primarily consider influence on later music. Louis Armstrong and John Coltrane are not alike except that both influenced later musicians to a rather large degree. Which five or ten prog acts had the most influence?
I think it can be argued that all modern Metal, including Prog Metal, is filtered through the early output of Metallica. They may not be Prog but they certainly seem to have had a significant influence on a lot of current bands.
Never. I reckon there are 100's of prog bands from the 70s that are better than the best prog band to form after 1980
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
Based on influence and originality...
70's Big 5:
KC (Highly influencial, Highly original)
Yes (Highly influencial, Highly original)
Genesis (Highly influencial, Highly original)
ELP (Moderately influencial, Moderately original)
GG (Hardly Influencial, HIGHLY original)
Post '70's
Marillion (Moderately influencial, Highly Derivitive)
Anglagard (Moderately influencial, they brought muscularity back into the Prog. A big fav of mine)
DT (Highly influencial, Mostly boring)
TFK (Moderately influencial, Way too meandering)
Rush (Highly influencial, Very original but they INSIST that they are NOT a Prog band, so...?)
[QUOTE=Digital_Man;258087]imo, it will always be Yes, ELP, Genesis, PF and KC. Almost no argument about it.
A young (ie under 40 !) friend of mine thought all these bands were American !
My take on the original 70s big 5, based only on what I was hearing on the radio in the 70s, and listed in order of airplay is:
Pink Floyd
Genesis
Jethro Tull
Yes
ELP
First time I ever heard a King Crimson, Gentle Giant, Camel or Rush song anywhere was in the 90s.
The Big 5 is clearly Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Gentle Giant, ELP, Jethro Tull & VDGG, no argument.
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
It all depends on what you want the phrase "Big 5" to mean, as that character from Alice In Wonderland (was it hte White Queen?) might have said.
If it means "most influential" then I would say the list has hardly changed, if at all, since the 1970's.
If it means "most commercially successful", then that question can be settled by examining sales figures.
If it means "foremost in 2014" then clearly it can't include Pink Floyd or Genesis, and it's a moot point whether it can still include Porcupine Tree.
Although I'm not a fan, if you consider output, album and ticket sales, it would be difficult not to consider Sigur Ros in a current list.
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
Yes
Genesis
KC
Pink Floyd
Tull
Rush
Porcupine Tree
Marillion
Tool
Radiohead
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down.'- Bob Newhart
I'm surprised hardly anyone has mentioned Opeth. They seem pretty well known, and i find them far more interesting than, for example, Rush.
Tool is often considered a prog fringe band as are TMV from what I understand. You got me on Anglagard though. I forgot about them. Heck Anekdoten would be a good candidate too but for some reason they don't get mentioned that often. Also, I don't think mainstream popularity should be the only factor but also influence(imo).
I always thought the "Big 3" were King Crimson, Genesis, and Yes...don't know about any beyond that! (my personal big 3 of this era - VdGG, Gentle Giant, and Magma)
For my money I prefer a lot of the more modern bands - Echolyn, Glass Hammer, IQ, Koenjihyakkei (and Ruins, and most of what Yoshida does), and Cardiacs (are they even considered a prog group??) all have excellent catalogues which easily stack up to the big 5/6/7 - and in some cases those catalogues are still expanding. As I've probably mentioned in other threads I do think it's awesome how some of these groups are 25/30 years on and seem to just now be at their peaks - how burnt out were most of the classic prog bands at that point?
Critter Jams "album of the week" blog: http://critterjams.wordpress.com
Depending on which lineup an under-40 person might have been familiar with, some of the "British prog giants" were only partially from Britain later in their careers:
Yes on The Ladder = only 67% British, more recently 80% British.
Genesis, the live lineup with Thompson & Stuermer = only 60% British.
King Crimson on The ConstruKction of Light & The Power To Believe= only 25% British! (Soon to be 4/7 British... can't do the math, sorry )
If I were trying to be objective, I'd say
Phish
Porcupine Tree
Dream Theater
Radiohead
Muse
If I were making wishes, I'd say:
Thinking Plague
Sanguine Hum
Echolyn
Big Big Train
Thieves Kitchen
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