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    Quote Originally Posted by No Pride View Post
    Funny, to me, Pasqua seemed intimidated by being in that band at the time, especially when listening to how "balls out" aggressive he sounds on the aforementioned Holdsworth/Pasqua stuff. He didn't sound bad with Tony, just kind of understated and overwhelmed. To me, at any rate.
    I also think it had something to do with his piano sound, it was a bit tiny somehow - and playing up against AH's fat guitarsound made it sound extra trembling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate View Post
    I also think it had something to do with... trembling.
    That's what I'm saying.

    Sorry, I have trouble resisting a good typo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wideopenears View Post
    Last night was great, in my opinion. He's taking chances, and obviously having fun. His tone is a bit more edgy than recent stuff, to my ears--though still 100% recognizable Holdsworth Brown Sound, heh heh. Mr. Giant Bulge, did you catch Allan's "roadie" moment with the cymbal mic? That cracked me up, and it's totally in character for him--oh! look, the mic fell, I'll wait and see if someone fixes it...nope! Better go do it meself, then... Lol. How About "Play Devil Take the Hindmost!"--from some inebriate, and AH's response--"we played that already....you must be enjoying one of those Fiiiine IPA's they have out there, but don't worry it's all good!" Too funny.

    Dug the keyboardist, never heard him before....did you catch his name? Beez, or something?

    Never saw Virgil before....he slays, doesn't he?
    Yeah, I dug Virgil. I can't remember the keyboardist's name, but I wasn't into his playing. He felt very much like the weak link in the group to me. The fact that he was added onto the tour at the 12th hour might have something to do with them not being able to get someone really good there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeuhlmate View Post
    My fab 4 would be
    AH
    Husband
    Johnson
    Pasqua
    That's the perfect Holdsworth line-up for me as well. Well.... unless we want to talk FANTASY line-ups then how about
    Holdsworth
    Tony Williams
    Jaco
    Corea or Zawinul

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    Ok, I think I'm going to have to go to the Monday night at Iridium - after all, I can head over there after work, it's the least I can do for Allan.

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    Well, if we're dreaming I think the following combo would work well-

    Holdsworth-gtr
    Percy Jones-bass
    David Sancious-keys and gtr
    Tony Williams-drums

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    Latest news from Moonjune.

    It gives you the name of the keyboard-player: Dennis Hamm. Plus new concerts with Gary Husband and Jimmy Haslip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wideopenears View Post
    Well, if we're dreaming I think the following combo would work well-

    Holdsworth-gtr
    Percy Jones-bass
    David Sancious-keys and gtr
    Tony Williams-drums
    I always thought that David Sancious' "Just As I Thought" was as close to the Bruford-albums as he could get and not only because of Jeff Berlin's playing on a couple of tracks.

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    I've only seen Holdsworth once, and it was in a trio. Although I was mesmerized by the way he plays, AND really enjoyed the playing of the other two (Chad especially - I'm also a drummer), sometimes the improv got a little too heavy for me. I would totally lose "where's one" and the chordal underpinning Alan was supposed to be soloing against. THEY seemed to know where they were at (or one or two of them did, and led the way out ), but sometimes I got lost. On the video with Pasqua, they are a LOT more cohesive. I noticed the same tendency on "then", too. I think the soloist needs something to play against (otherwise terms like tension and release mean nothing), and when all three improvise, sometimes that sort of gets lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhael View Post
    I would totally lose "where's one" and the chordal underpinning Alan was supposed to be soloing against. THEY seemed to know where they were at (or one or two of them did, and led the way out ), but sometimes I got lost. On the video with Pasqua, they are a LOT more cohesive. I noticed the same tendency on "then", too. I think the soloist needs something to play against (otherwise terms like tension and release mean nothing), and when all three improvise, sometimes that sort of gets lost.
    Well, playing with rhythms, like juxtaposing a different meter over the original one while keeping track of where the original one is in the form of the tune is not uncommon in interactive modern jazz playing... and even "the greats" get lost sometimes. When you're constantly going out on limbs, the chances of them breaking from time to time will increase. There's a video on YT of Corea, Colaiuta and Pattitucci where Vinnie messes up Chick (a fearless player with time himself) and Chick looks at him and starts mouthing the words, "where's one?"... then Vinnie hits a crash cymbal to say "it's here!" It's one of the many challenges jazz players like to indulge in... and though most of Holdsworth's material is "straight 8th" oriented, it's still very much in the interactive jazz vein.

    I know what you're saying about him without keyboards though; his stuff uses a lot of dense chords with 5 or 6 notes in them and without a keyboard player to spell them out while Allan is soloing, it's up to the listener to imagine those chords being played, which can be tough even for seasoned musicians like us. Of the half dozen + times I've heard him live, the concert I enjoyed the most was him, Chad, Skuli Sveresson (or however you spell it) and Steve Hunt on keyboards. On Holdsy's studio albums, you almost always hear the chords behind the solos, whether it's a keyboard or Allan overdubbing them himself... that's how I prefer to hear his music live.

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    When there are no keyboards, it helps to have a good bass player who instinctively knows when to throw in a major or minor 3rd, or whatever, to give the listener a better sense of the percieved chordal background.
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    According The unReal Allan Holdsworth Facebook-site there will be a book on Holdsworth this April:

    We've decided on the cover for the second book to be published by Jazz In Britain (Jazz In Britain). We're aiming for a publication date of 15th April - the anniversary of Allan Holdsworth's passing. We believe it will be the first book on Allan and will cover all of his recordings up to 2020 and analyse all of his 1970s and 1980s British jazz radio sessions. It's looking really good so far; Ed Chang is a superb writer. There will also be a vinyl and downloadable album of previously unheard material from the early 1970s released simultaneously! We're very excited and hope you will be too. You could help us by indicating whether you're likely to buy this book in a comment or, simply, by liking this post as that will help us gauge how many copies to go for in the first print run. Keep watching this page!

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    Quote Originally Posted by interbellum View Post
    According The unReal Allan Holdsworth Facebook-site there will be a book on Holdsworth this April:
    And to coincide with the release of the book there will be a music release of The Ron Mathewson Tapes, Vol. 1 w/Allan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrippWire View Post
    And to coincide with the release of the book there will be a music release of The Ron Mathewson Tapes, Vol. 1 w/Allan.
    Yeah, noticed that too (posted it in the Canterbury-thread):



    Sounds like a session, doesn't it. I think I recognize Allan speaking.

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    Last year Sebastiaan Cornelissen recorded a special version of Metal Fatigue for his new album Bevel Around The Edges.


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    ^ Thanks for sharing! I really like the original song (and album), so this is cool to hear.

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    ^^^That was beautiful!

    Thx for sharing!
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    Nice tribute! Thanks!


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