Don't understand this at all.Originally Posted by Squigelyfox
His "loyal fans" would give up on him after his most successful album and tour in years?
That makes no sense. Especially considering the reports of him working on new music.
Don't understand this at all.
His "loyal fans" would give up on him after his most successful album and tour in years?
That makes no sense. Especially considering the reports of him working on new music.
Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally
Not sure why you would think he would lose loyal fans? I saw the GR show and loved it! I would go again if it comes back through my area. I have seen Steve on every solo tour that has come through my area over the last 20 years, any chance to see him perform is a no brainer for me.
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He may lose some loyal fans on the way too...
Completely agree with Scott on this one. The solo stuff has been amazing including the LP with Squire... and another one in the pipeline! So he follows up to the original Genesis Re-Visited with another one.. and its a hit with his... loyal fan base... sell out shows with demand for more? What is the problem, can't we all just enjoy this classic Genesis renaissance courtesy of one Stephen Richard Hackett!....... I think the loyal fans are firmly in tow!!!
Absolutely!
I don't think so...Seems like a lot more "loyal" fans are just Genesis fans. Why else would Steve be selling more gig tickets at bigger venues and getting his albums in the charts? When I last saw Steve he was in a much smaller venue.
Anyway, you enjoy the Genesis renaissance. It's not for all of us.
Nope, not for me! Genesis fans are firmly in tow, with some Steve fans.Absolutely!
That's fine, but are you saying that you're no longer a fan, won't buy anymore albums of Steve's, won't attend shows, etc.?
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Are the two mutually exclusive? Can't Genesis fans also be Steve Hackett fans? Surely I'm not the only one.
There's some crossover, but naturally there are more Genesis fans than just Hackett solo fans. But 35 years of solo albums and touring has amassed him a respectable fan base of his own.
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Agreed.
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What a strange course this thread has taken. I must admit I am perplexed to see this much disapproval of what Steve is doing by revisiting songs he had a hand in writing. By that standard, I guess he's also "milking" his own solo material from 30+ years ago by playing it when he tours?
^^ Remember, these are likely the same people who would rejoice if Gabriel suddenly dusted off something like "Back in NYC" during his shows.
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I am grateful he's not doing "GTR Revisited" I &/or II.What a strange course this thread has taken. I must admit I am perplexed to see this much disapproval of what Steve is doing by revisiting songs he had a hand in writing. By that standard, I guess he's also "milking" his own solo material from 30+ years ago by playing it when he tours?
Come on, the majority of Genesis fans are sadly fans of the three man era and more specifically the Invisible Touch, I Can't Dance material. Steve Hackett fans are old Genesis fans period. They are one in the same! I'm sure the vast majority of his fans discovered him via old Genesis. His music was never radio friendly. The material is a big reason for larger crowds, far to neglected by the rest of the band and even Steve for many years. My brother for example saw the show in NYC and loved it, when Steve came through on the second leg he brought his 3 kids because he wanted to share this with them. Scenarios like this are more common than you would think and quite possibly account for a large portion of the bigger crowds....
Haha, nice!I am grateful he's not doing "GTR Revisited" I &/or II.
No, I'm not saying that. My being a fan has been damaged though, so I may not buy any albums. It's unlikely I'll attend any shows, but that's more to do with them being difficult for me, as I tend to use public transport, and it's useless late at night.
No, not at all. It's just about the Genesis stuff. Too much Genesis, not enough Hackett!What a strange course this thread has taken. I must admit I am perplexed to see this much disapproval of what Steve is doing by revisiting songs he had a hand in writing. By that standard, I guess he's also "milking" his own solo material from 30+ years ago by playing it when he tours?
Of course it's about money...Hackett's trying to make a living, guys, and touring Genesis material is clearly giving him a big boost, financially.
But the real question is this: is he giving it out and putting on a really good show or, as some groups have done, just phoning it in? After seeing the tour last year, there's no doubt in my mind that he is loving every minute of playing this music with a great bunch of musicians, and is giving the audience real value for their money, with long shows filled with well-known songs as well as a few surprises.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to make money as long as the fans are not being ripped off. I've read few complaints/ criticisms of GR2 on the road, so I'd say Hackett is succeeding in making money by giving the fans a high quality performance, one to which the whole band gives 110% each and every night.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
Sorry, can't agree. Despite all attempts to prove otherwise, post- Hackett Genesis proved just how valuable Hackett's contributions were to the music, each and every time they would play music from Hackett's tenure with the group. Rutherford was never more than an adequate guitarist and, while Darryl Stuermer is a fine player, he's more generic and doesn't have Hackett's personality in the playing, IMO. He played the notes, but he missed the point.
So, if Hackett's work with Genesis was so seminal,and if the rest of the band is not interested in playing this stuff, more power to him, I say. And there can't be too much Genesis and too little Hackett when Hackett is making clear how seminal his work with the band was by hitting the road to play the music.
Meanwhile, dead not. Last I heard he'd begun work on a new album that was not Genesis related, so everybody will be happy!
I simply don't understand this at all. If he creates new music that you like, what difference does it make?
Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally
Years from now, there will be threads on PE from folks wishing they had gone and experienced Steve Hackett when he played Live GR2 in their town.........like the folks who wished they attended Woodstock........or the Beatles......etc Go SEE the innovative musicians while you can.
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I did the Musical Box, and it was fantastic the first time, but completely diminishing returns since then. I did see Hackett last year do the Revisited show, and while I enjoyed the performance of Nad and Lee....
I'm just really not that interested in hearing anyone play Genesis music anymore. Sure, its music that I loved, it was instrumental in forging my musical tastes, but ... I've moved on. Actually, there's a lot from the classic era that I just don't have an interest in listening to anymore.
I also was fortunate to see Genesis in the 70s, Hackett in the 80s. Maybe that has something to do with it as well...
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How would I know though? If I lost interest and don't read updates etc. I only said "I may not buy any albums", didn't I?
Makes good sense to me!
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