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    Fred is a frequent visitor to Victoriaville, as a result I've been lucky enough to have seen him a number of times including :

    Fred Frith / Jean-Pierre Drouet / Louis Sclavis

    Fred Frith / Chris Cutler

    Fred Frith / Bill Laswell / Dave Lombardo / John Zorn

    Fred Frith & Nouvel Ensemble Moderne

    Anthony Braxton / Fred Frith

    Fred Frith «Cosa Brava»

    Art Bears Songbook

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    I saw him solo in Tel Aviv in 96
    Then in 2005 With Chris Cutler here in TLV
    Art Bears Song Book at RIO 2010
    The Music of Lindsay Cooper 2014

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    Ive seen 2005 With Chris Cutler
    Art Bears Song Book at RIO 2010
    Gravity band in Moers Festival
    The Music of Lindsay Cooper
    And only last month got a chance to see him for the first time in a solo set which actually blew my mind, I did not think it will be as musical as it was.
    Second set was with Roget Turner and Tim Hodgkinson, was really good (but that was expected )

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    You guys suck.

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    I've been listening to a great Massacre show this morning. Los Angeles at the Whiskey 1981. Fred is KILLING IT. Damn those guys were so good. I wish they had done more albums back then... 1981. I still love the newer ones but that first band was something seriously bitchin.

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    Yup the original Massacre was like a blueprint
    I wasn't aware of any live recording from that era ...

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    I only have Killing Time but really dig it. What else is essential?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    I only have Killing Time but really dig it. What else is essential?
    Meltdown and Funny Valentine are the others... and they are almost just as awesome.


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    The 1st Massacre is a fantastic warehouse of ideas, but Hayward's drumming on the later discs adds something unique and maybe more nuanced than Maher, (who also obviously can be great). The above track, (Ladder) is a personal favorite...the recording quality of this disc and Live at Meltdown released later is superb. Hugely narcotic stuff in a dark room on a good system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bake 1 View Post
    The 1st Massacre is a fantastic warehouse of ideas, but Hayward's drumming on the later discs adds something unique and maybe more nuanced than Maher, (who also obviously can be great). The above track, (Ladder) is a personal favorite...the recording quality of this disc and Live at Meltdown released later is superb. Hugely narcotic stuff in a dark room on a good system.
    I'll agree with ya on Charles being a little more versatile. He has done some really great stuff over the years too.

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    I've seen him often (and will do again this summer) :
    solo (four times), with his guitar quartet, in several free improv small ensembles, with Art Bears Songbook at RIO, with Henry Cow in London...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phlakaton View Post
    I'll agree with ya on Charles being a little more versatile. He has done some really great stuff
    He's one of the most interesting rock drummers of all time, IMHO - period. Great in the strict environment of Quiet Sun, even greater with the coordinated and calculated machinery percussion of This Heat, and outright tremendous in his various semi-improv or free improv ventures with people like Hugh Hopper, Pierre Vervloesem, Massacre etc. His solo projects (voice, keys, tapes, drums) are idiosyncratic but very, very worthwhile. Hayward belongs to that uniquely sharp and cerebral yet peculiarly lively school of drummers stemming from the "Wyatt approach", along with folks like Chris Cutler, Guigou Chenevier, Daniel Denis, Tatsuya Yoshida, Kerman and so on.

    Can't help but to love those dudes.
    "Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
    "[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM

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    ^ I prefer the guys from Deaf Leper and Poison (aka Arsenic), but those guys are ok too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalkpie View Post
    ^ I prefer the guys from Deaf Leper and Poison (aka Arsenic), but those guys are ok too.
    Once you go one arm... haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phlakaton View Post
    Once you go one arm...
    Don't worry, the guy was bad to begin with. Perfect for his context, of course.
    "Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
    "[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM

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    Saw him with Naked City in 1991, what an amazing show. He was already one of my heroes but I spent most of the set goggling at Joey Baron turning the whole band on a dime.

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    Jeez, I saw FF so many times, although not in the last 15 years at all.

    Henry Cow x 2
    Skeleton Crew x 3
    FF Guitar 4tet x 2
    FF & Hans Reichel
    FF & C Cutler
    FF & J Zorn
    Solo x 6
    Massacre w/Maher x 2
    Naked City x 2
    + at Trinity Theater Fest in 1980 and Zu Fest in 1979.

    Boy, I'm old.

    And that's just off the top of my head. There's probably more....
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    ^ You saw Naked City? TWICE?! Jealous!!
    Check out Colouratura's sophomore release Unfamiliar Skies - out this spring on Melodic Revolution Records!

    colouratura.bandcamp.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombywoof View Post
    ^ You saw Naked City? TWICE?! Jealous!!
    The 1st time, I had to ferry them around the city and 'entertain' them (except for Fred, who, seemingly, found his own entertainment).

    p.s. don't be jealous of being old. You'll get there. Or not, but I wish you the best!

    One of the amusing things about getting old is that people become impressed about things you did as a matter of course / a matter of living that you didn't necessarily think about at the time ("You saw Frank Zappa/Soft Machine/Henry Cow/National Health/whoever"? Jealous!", "You went to Stonehenge before they put the fence up and you could actually touch the stones? Jealous!" "You bought a six pack of 'Billy' beer in the store? Jealous!").

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    Any time any one speaks to me about any musical project, the one absolute given is "it will not make big money". [tip of the hat to HK]

    "You run a great label, but sometimes you go out of your way to be a jerk." - Jed Levin

    "Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"

    please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.

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    p.s.

    Why do I have the feeling that I will need to explain 'Billy Beer' to young Ian.....

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    Any time any one speaks to me about any musical project, the one absolute given is "it will not make big money". [tip of the hat to HK]

    "You run a great label, but sometimes you go out of your way to be a jerk." - Jed Levin

    "Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"

    please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.

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    Well, seeing Freddie whip it out with Massacre (Maher-rendition) after first having witnessed him with Cow must have been - er - a refreshingly creative impression.
    "Improvisation is not an excuse for musical laziness" - Fred Frith
    "[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    Well, seeing Freddie whip it out with Massacre (Maher-rendition) after first having witnessed him with Cow must have been - er - a refreshingly creative impression.
    The 1st time I saw Massacre, they were kinda meh.

    The 2nd time I saw Massacre (at the Glass Pavilion at John Hopkins Univ., where the photo of Fred on the back of Gravity was snapped) was one of the great, great shows I've ever seen.

    And it was the only show by the short - lived Muffins follow-up "Weekend" (The Muffins minus Tom Scott + guitarist Peter Hoepfner).

    A wonderful memory and show! See! Being old is great!
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    "You run a great label, but sometimes you go out of your way to be a jerk." - Jed Levin

    "Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"

    please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.

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    But all of it pales next to Billy beer!
    Steve F.

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    Any time any one speaks to me about any musical project, the one absolute given is "it will not make big money". [tip of the hat to HK]

    "You run a great label, but sometimes you go out of your way to be a jerk." - Jed Levin

    "Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"

    please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.

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