Christ never said help the poor with everyone else's money. He said get out there and do it yourself.Originally Posted by Hal...
Christ never said help the poor with everyone else's money. He said get out there and do it yourself.
I think I smell a subject change coming.
I believe his exact words were: "We're all Austrians now!"Christ never said help the poor with everyone else's money. He said get out there and do it yourself.
Hell, they ain't even old-timey ! - Homer Stokes
And that would be great if the people who could afford to help actually did. But in fact, despite counterexamples like Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg, the richest give a little over 1% of their income away. Even the poorest do better than that.Christ never said help the poor with everyone else's money. He said get out there and do it yourself.
This is not a Christian country and never has been.
Cobra handling and cocaine use are a bad mix.
Indeed. The problem with today's society is that far too many people only see the world through their own personal experiences. Until people learn to step outside of their bubbles and begin to see the real world through the eyes of others, we have little hope of making it a better place for everyone. And I mean well beyond our own borders. The US might think of themselves as exceptional; but the majority of the rest of the world see us quite differently.
Just look at how those who benefit from social programs, like Social Security or the Americans with Disabilities Act, want to deny similar help to those with other disadvantages that are no less important. It's appalling.
"The White Zone is for loading and unloading only. If you got to load or unload go to the White Zone!"
I thought he said that "it would easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man enter the kingdom of god"? Doesn't that translate to the rich should give away their wealth to be worthy? Heresy Heresy Heresy !!!Christ never said help the poor with everyone else's money. He said get out there and do it yourself.
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I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
Jesus was a Socialist.
"The White Zone is for loading and unloading only. If you got to load or unload go to the White Zone!"
In a sense, you're right. You can't force people to care. And that's, ultimately, the lesson of Jesus' command to help the needy: those who will, will, and those who can't be bothered, won't.Christ never said help the poor with everyone else's money. He said get out there and do it yourself.
The problem, as I see it, is how do we want to be viewed as a society? We're all interconnected in a sense, after all. And when we have people living on the streets because we vote in politicians who cut funding for services that would help them, what does that say about us as a society? It says we're apathetic and cold-hearted.
Ironic, isn't it? And the thing is that the money the rich give to "charity" are not actual charities. The vast majority of their "charitable" contributions go to universities and other non-profit organizations. I'd be more impressed if, instead of donating $300 million to their alma mater, they used $50 million to set up a foundation for the homeless.
“From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away.” – Philip Marlowe
You poor benighted fool. Haven't you read the sections of the Sermon on the Mount where he praises the "wealth-creators" and curses the laziness and stupidity of the "takers"? Or asserts the right to bear arms? I guess some people just aren't familiar with the Good Book!
“From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away.” – Philip Marlowe
...and we've come full circle to Rush in a WalMart commercial. Good night.
About profit being a primary reason for the existence of business.
Okay, so being profitable is obviously necessary for the continued existence of a business. But there isn't necessarily any reason for other concerns to be as far down the list as they tend to be...other than greed.
But I'm biased by my own experience. The company I work for just became employee-owned. The founders sold their stocks to the company which will then be given out to us over several years. They made a ton of money in the process, but they could have sold it to another company for obscene profits. There are lots of other details to the deal as well - the way they did the whole thing was to maximize the value of the stock (and not to devalue the existing stock many of us had). As a result of the way the deal went down the founders' tax burden was much higher than it could have been if they had been more selfish and greedy. Most of the money they received will go into their philanthropic foundation. All this had to be unanimously agreed upon by the board of directors (people who had a lot of stock in the company). If any of them had preferred a more greedy outcome it would have scuttled the whole thing.
Less than 1% of the companies in the US that are employee-owned got such a sweet deal for the employees.
This was only possible because the founders cared more about company culture and the effect on the local community than $$$$.
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Well, Damn, sir! That's downright un-American!
"The White Zone is for loading and unloading only. If you got to load or unload go to the White Zone!"
Seemingly, yes.
I'm sure I did a terrible job of explaining the particulars - and that was after they gave us training on just what went down....it was complicated!
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Didn't someone once say, "One likes to believe in the freedom of music, but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity"?
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He did... he was into Ayn Rand when he said it too
Yeah, this guy.
I'm holding out for the Wilson-mixed 5.1 super-duper walletbuster special anniversary extra adjectives edition.
Wal-Facts:
* Each United States Wal-Mart costs taxpayers nearly $1 million because of the company’s miserably low pay
* W-M receives a myriad of local tax benefits, free or reduced-price land, property- and sales-tax exemptions and various grants. The company’s known U.S. subsidies are far in excess of a billion dollars; 279 “economic development” subsidies total roughly $1.16 billion.
* For a distribution center in Schoharie County, New York, Wal-Mart will save $46 million over 20 years because the county government took title to the facility so that the company would not have to pay taxes. That’s $1,433 per county resident.
* W-M's $470 billion of revenue in 2012 is larger than the world’s next four largest retailers combined.
* If all eligible Wal-Mart workers were to enroll in all public-assistance programs in which they are eligible, each Wal-Mart would cost a state’s taxpayers up to $1,744,590 per year.
* W-m's CEO was paid more than 900 times the average company employee, and those employees are paid more than 12 percent less than the dismal pay of retail workers elsewhere.
* The Walton family uses the vast wealth it has accrued by exploiting workers worldwide and fleecing US taxpayers to fund the “charter school” movement, a thinly disguised privatization initiative designed to bust unions and place schools under corporate control.
Wal-Mart is not, of course, what conservatives have in mind when then invoke "welfare queens" and "takers."
Hell, they ain't even old-timey ! - Homer Stokes
Eh, it's a commercial. Good on Rush.
I shop at Walmart on occasion - if I looked too deeply into every vendor I do business with, I'd drive myself crazy. And if I were this easily "offended", I'd never leave my house - there's some real heavy stuff going on out there
It's also a thinly disguised effort to get taxpayers to fund parochial schools, a violation of the separation of church and state.
So, Mo, what was it like when Sears first opened up? Were the workers paid well? I'm sure you remember catalogs like this, right?
“From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away.” – Philip Marlowe
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Totally cant stand the religious crap they spew --- but the occasional chicken sandwich... ok. They still get me every once in a long while. Good thing I usually want one on a Sunday. They like to rest on that day. So no sandwich.
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