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    Forgotten jazz rock album

    I'm trying to remember the name of an American jazz-rock keyboard player that recorded just one acclaimed album in the late Seventies and then abandoned music and disappeared, supposedly living on the streets with a herd of dogs... the CD was finally released a few years back. I seem to remember that the album was recorded for a rock label, and I thought it had come out on Capricorn but I didn't find it in a discography.

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    Are you thinking of Hermann Szobel? The album "Szobel" was originally issued by Arista Records, went out of print and was unavailable on CD until PE's own Ken Golden at Laser's Edge rescued/reissued it in 2012. Szobel was VERY gifted but faded away.

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    That's it! Thanks. Yes, I read an article about his story... supposedly he's been 'seen' in disparate place through the years -India, Africa, etc.-,and has not touched a piano since soon after the album came out. Kind of a Syd Barrett story in the jazz-rock world, touching both drug use and mental illness.

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    The new release is engineered by Bob Katz and is supposed to have very good SQ

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    Its really quite an intense listen. Well worth your $14 if you haven't bought it yet.

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    This is such a truly great album. It holds up to many repeated listenings.

    What a talent. From what I hear, his own arrogance was part of his undoing.
    And if there were a god, I think it very unlikely that he would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence - Russell

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    I always dug this one, raw and fairly wacked:

    Hell, they ain't even old-timey ! - Homer Stokes

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogrooves View Post
    I always dug this one, raw and fairly wacked:




    Well, with john Abercrombie on guitar, and Marc Cohen on keys, I wouldn't expect anything but a solid release.
    And if there were a god, I think it very unlikely that he would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence - Russell

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    The Friends album is awesome. Sort of America's equivalent of Xhol Caravan. I have the LP, but it would be nice to see a CD reissue of this one at some point as well.

    And agree with everyone here that the Szobel CD on Laser's Edge is an absolute must pick up.

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    Anything by The Fourth Way - The Fourth Way, The Sun Nd the Moon Have Come Together and Werewolf, featuring Mike Nock, Michael White,Ron McClure and Eddie Marshall. Essential!

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    Friends album is great, but note that Marc Cohen is the sax player.
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    I've posted this clip before, but here 'tis again.Joe Chambers-New World, from 1976,available on disc.Check it out, daddy-o.

    "please do not understand me too quickly"-andre gide

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    I love it! Very Zappa-esque...

    Autobuy.

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    Ray Russell-Dragon Hill;from 1969.Guitar(Ray Russell), piano, double bass, drums.Horns are added on two tracks.

    I wish there was a clip i could post from this record.It's THAT good,imo.The cd is in print.
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    Catalyst.

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    “Pleasure and pain can be experienced simultaneously,” she said, gently massaging my back as we listened to her Coldplay CD.

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    Well, though not really forgotten, Mc Coy Tyner's 70's albums are generally forgotten by JR/F fans, but they really belong in that category, IMHO... Anything from Expansions (with that National Geographic artwork) until Inner Voices (from 77) is 100 mph fusion.
    my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.

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    my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.

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    Dunno if this is forgotten, but it shouldn't be


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    This is turning into quite a cool thread....

    I saw Namyslowski and his band at my college in the 80's...that was cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wideopenears View Post
    This is turning into quite a cool thread....
    It went OT pretty fast, though.

    Started as a thread about a specific Hermann Szobel album, it seems to have turned into a thread about forgotten jazz rock albums in general.
    I wonder how many of those posting here actually read the original post.

    Never mind, it could be a nice thread anyway.

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    Another great jazz rock unknown. British; by members of East of Eden, Mike Westbrook etc...

    Macht das ohr auf!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrippWire View Post
    Szobel was VERY gifted but faded away.
    Yes, I think that he recorded the album at a very young age, 17 or 18... He was the nephew of famous concert promoter Bill Graham.
    Last edited by spacefreak; 02-01-2014 at 09:10 AM.
    Macht das ohr auf!

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    Two albums by John Serry---Exhibition and Jazziz

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    I highly recommend the Szobel album. Interesting blend of musical influences.

    Here's a good, mostly forgotten one: Don Cherry's Hear & Now. All kinds of crazy stuff going on with this album.


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