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    The Best Prog of 2013 in Europe

    It's that time of year and I really like lists, so:

    What are the best prog albums of European prog bands this year.

    Here's my top 10:

    1) Big Big Train - Full Power
    2) Moon Safari - Himlabaken Vol.1
    3) Leap Day - From The Days Of Deucalion, Chapter 1
    4) The Tangent - Le Sacre Du Travail
    5) Nemo - Le Ver Dans Le Fruit
    6) Lifesigns - Lifesigns
    7) The Flower Kings - Desolation Rose
    8) Magenta - The Twenty Seven Club
    9) Clive Nolan - Alchemy
    10) Haken - The Mountain

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    Top 10 - Excellent
    1. Guapo - History Of The Visitation
    2. Unit Wail - Retort
    3. Pixel - We Are All Small Pixels
    4. Rhun - Fanfare du Chaos
    5. Archestra - Arches
    6. Five Storey Ensemble - Not That City
    7. Chrome Hoof - Chrome Black Gold
    8. Setna - Guérison
    9. Henry Fool - Men Singing
    10. October Equus - Permafrost

    11 to 20 (No Order) - Very Good
    Empty Days - Empty Days
    Steve Wilson - Raven That Refused to Sing
    Wyatt, Robert - '68
    Caillou - Caillou
    Eckert, Alain - Alain Eckert Quartet
    Mike Oldfield - Crises 5CD Box Set
    Mike Oldfield - 5 Miles Out 2CD
    Sanguine Hum - The Weight Of The World
    Jaga Jazzist - Live With Britten Sinfonia
    Tatvamasi - Parts Of The Entirety
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    I'll add the ones (European, not UK) that have not been mentioned as yet:
    Leprous-Coal
    Beardfish-The Void
    Jeremias-Foreshadow...
    Lizard-Master & M
    Sky Architect-Billion Years
    Flower Kings
    I'll say that anyway, of course Nemo, Haken and Guapo...

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    1. Il Tempio delle Clessidre: AlieNatura
    2. Sky Architect: A Billion Years of Solitude
    3. Ingranaggi delle Valle: In hoc signo
    4. Grand General: Grand General
    5. Camelias Garden: You Have a Chance
    6. Setna: Guérison
    7. Not a Good Sign: Not a Good Sign
    8. Karfagen: Aleatorica
    9. Violent Silence: A Broken Truce
    10. Homunculus Res: Limiti all’eguaglianza della parte con il tutto
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    In no particular order:

    Top 10 prog
    Homunculus Res - Limiti all’eguaglianza della parte con il tutto
    Rhun - Fanfare du Chaos
    Crystal Thoughts -The Pagan
    Henry Fool - Men Singing
    La Maschera di Cera - Le Porte de Domani
    Walrus - Walrus
    Worm Ouroboros - Of Things That Never Were
    Il Tempio delle Clessidre - AlieNatura
    Ingranaggi della Valle - In Hoc Signo
    Setna - Guerison


    Others (must listens)
    Wilson, Steven - The Raven That Refused to Sing and Other Stories
    Chris - Days of Summer Gone
    Big Big Train - English Electric, Part Two
    La Coscienza Di Zeno - Sensitivita
    Submarine Silence - There's Something Very Strange in Her Little Room
    Pandora - Alibi Filosofico
    Purson - The Circle and the Blue Door
    Unreal City - La Crudelta' di Aprile
    Vespero - Droga
    Willowglass - The Dream Harbour
    October Equus - Permafrost
    Kama Loka - Kama Loka
    Carpet - Elysian Plea
    Arabs in Aspic - Pictures in a Dream
    Il Cerchio d'Oro - Dedalo e Icaro
    Not a Good Sign - Not a Good Sign
    Progenesi - Ulisse: L'Alfiere Nero
    Oxhuitza - Oxhuitza
    Magenta - The Twenty Seven Club
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    Sanguine Hum- The Weight Of The World
    Steve Hackett- GRII
    The Tangent- Le Sacre Du Travail
    Haken- The Mountain
    Lifesigns-ST
    The Custodian- Necessary Wasted Time
    Not A Good Sign- ST
    The Flower Kings- Desolation Rose
    Riverside- Shrine Of Generation Slaves
    The Fierce And The Dead- Spooky Action

    Kind of in the order listed

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    No particular order:

    Ingranaggi della Valle - In Hoc Signo
    Rhun - Fanfare du Chaos
    Pixel - We Are All Small Pixels
    Sanguine Hum - Weight of the World
    Homunculus Res - Limiti...
    Walrus - Walrus
    Grand General - Grand General
    These New Puritans - Field of Reeds
    Not a Good Sign - Not a Good Sign
    Henry Fool - Men Singing
    Hedvig Mollestad Trio - All of Them Witches
    The Wrong Object - After the Exhibition
    Jean Louis - Uranus
    Chrome Hoof - Chrome Black Gold
    Setna - Guerison
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    Just realised that my entire Top 10 of 2013 (compiled it today) is completely European, no trace of US prog to be found:

    10. Chris - Days Of Summer Gone


    9. Silje Leirvik - Endless Serenade


    8. The Opium Cartel - Ardor

    7. Gordon Giltrap & Oliver Wakeman - Ravens & Lullabies

    6. Cosmograf - The Man Left In Space

    5. Lucy Ward - Single Flame

    4. Roy Harper - Man & Myth


    3. Lifesigns - Lifesigns

    2. Steven Wilson - The Raven That Refused To Sing (And Other Stories)

    1. Big Big Train - English Electric : Full Power

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    I don't visit PE very often any more, as I've somewhat lost my interest in prog and rock music in general. (I did enjoy a few albums this year, though: David Bowie, Roy Harper, The Flaming Lips, Steven Wilson, Yo La Tengo and Riverside.)

    The fact that Big Big Train gets such praise confounds me and turns me off modern prog. They are just SO derivative. They're the antithesis of the "progressive" in Prog. Could the singer be ripping off Peter Gabriel more thoroughly?

    For fans of this band, what in the world is the appeal? The comfortable sound (which I understand but I guess I don't see the merit). By the way, I've heard two latter-day albums. I gave the band a try once I heard Dave Gregory was with them.
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    ^^ Steven Wilson's album is as derivative as BBT's so why single them out? You basically starting the whole discussion about progressive rock vs. Progressive Rock (i.e. attitude vs. style).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisXymphonia View Post
    You basically starting the whole discussion about progressive rock vs. Progressive Rock (i.e. attitude vs. style).
    If it had ever been merely a "style", then when and because of what did that come about? It's a genre - a concept of virtues - not a "style" or "sound" (i.e. the "big six"); if the latter was ever the case, then we'd have to rule out 80% of the names and titles being discussed throughout the 45 years of progressive rock as genre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bungalow Bill View Post
    I don't visit PE very often any more, as I've somewhat lost my interest in prog and rock music in general. (I did enjoy a few albums this year, though: David Bowie, Roy Harper, The Flaming Lips, Steven Wilson, Yo La Tengo and Riverside.)

    The fact that Big Big Train gets such praise confounds me and turns me off modern prog. They are just SO derivative. They're the antithesis of the "progressive" in Prog. Could the singer be ripping off Peter Gabriel more thoroughly?

    For fans of this band, what in the world is the appeal? The comfortable sound (which I understand but I guess I don't see the merit). By the way, I've heard two latter-day albums. I gave the band a try once I heard Dave Gregory was with them.
    The funny thing is that BBT would most likely admit that they are derivative. That said, the music they produce is of substantial quality in my opinion. There are many bands out there who are derivative of earlier bands. Some of them don't do much for me either. Not because they are derivative of other bands, but because, to me, their songwriting and/or performances aren't particularly strong. BBT on the other hand, I find to be as good, if not better than some of the bands who came before them.

    There is nothing wrong with emulating a certain style and doing good things with it. How many bands are still reflective to some extent of The Beatles all of these years later? Many. Some of them are good, some are not. Your theory about "progressing" is great, but being truly different in the world of rock music in 2014 is easier said than done. Most music out there sounds to some extent like stuff that has come before. With all due respect, I would argue that the new albums by the artists that you listed above are all derivative of other music. I have heard a few of them and would agree that they are good, but not particularly original. I definitely don't think that they are representative of "progression" to any great means, but that is absolutely fine. They are good albums regardless.

    My point above, isn't just the case in rock music, but in most other musical styles as well. That said, Music doesn't have to reinvent the wheel to be good. It will always be about good songwriting, excellent musicianship and strong performances. Personally, I think BBT covers all three of those areas and IMO, they deserve the accolades that they have received.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bungalow Bill View Post
    The fact that Big Big Train gets such praise confounds me and turns me off modern prog. They are just SO derivative. They're the antithesis of the "progressive" in Prog.
    And in retrospect, latest Riverside (Porcupine Tree hinting at Purple) is an example of "progressive" in prog? Unless if fusing elements of Pink Floyd and heavy metal, is considered prog rock for the new millenium. Which is, by the way, for many fans of modern prog...

    Personally, I am taking "English Electric #2" for what it is; a pleasant stylistic excercise into in the quiter edge of the spectrum of the Big-5 sound, which isn't neo and has all the right moves to result in a beautiful Anthony Phillips soundalike album. Very enjoyable in it's own right, though I can perfectly understand the objections as being a lesser effort than Part I. But it makes much more sense as a whole, if you listen to both parts I and II running together...

    If my ears are in need of modern progressive, I would rather look in The Necks, Fire! Orchestra, Chrome Hoof, Rhun or Homunculus Res f.e.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisXymphonia View Post
    ^^ Steven Wilson's album is as derivative as BBT's so why single them out? You basically starting the whole discussion about progressive rock vs. Progressive Rock (i.e. attitude vs. style).
    Maybe he is, but I for one agree with him

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