Hatfield and the North

[alanterrill]

Well, they RARELY did, but NOT never. There were 3 'big band' shows in April/May 1974 (including London's Roundhouse) of which recordings and photos survive. If I could travel back in time that would be #1 on the list of gigs I wish I could have attended.

I run the Hatfield Facebook group and if you subscribe, there's a video on there that I put together of part of "Homerton" set against photos of the Cambridge concert.

Glad you confirmed that as I could have sworn I'd seen them with the Northettes , but I did see them at the Roundhouse so that would fit. I seem to recall Lol Coxhill and someone else busking in the foyer at the beginning, then wandering through the audience playing and then climbing up on stage still playing. I also recall a flute player (Jermey Baines?) playing with the end of his flute dipped in a bowl of water. No idea what that achieved.

[GuitarGeek]

For me, it was looking for Marillion and finding many times an album by a band called Marilyn. Just Marilyn.

If you're talking mid 80's, Marilyn wasn't a they, but rather a he. Yeah, a male singer who dressed in drag, apparently attempting to look like Marilyn Monroe. He was one of the performers on Do They Know It's Christmas Time (the main reason I know who he is, as I have the 12" single, with the "cast" photo on the back cover).

[GuitarGeek]

The new Matching Mole that Wyatt was about to start when he had his accent didn't involve Phil Miller, precisely because Hatfield was already going.

An old post, I know, so maybe pointless to respond, but I remember in the liner notes of the first Henry Cow live box (the one with all the early stuff on it), Fred Frith says that Wyatt had asked him to join Matching Mole. He was torn as to what to do, as he really admired Wyatt and wanted to work with him, but also didn't want to leave Henry Cow, either.

[alanterrill]

An old post, I know, so maybe pointless to respond, but I remember in the liner notes of the first Henry Cow live box (the one with all the early stuff on it), he says that Wyatt had asked him to join Matching Mole. He was torn as to what to do, as he really admired Wyatt and wanted to work with him, but also didn't want to leave Henry Cow, either.

This doesn't make sense to me - are we talking about Phil Miller or Fred Frith here?

[interbellum]

Who else used to look up Hatfield CD's and LP's in record stores even though you had the albums anyway and Juliana Hatfield always popped up?

I had some issues when a Dutch fellow produced albums under the name Hatfield's End...

[Enid]

Thanks for confirming the shows that Northettes played. Will check these references...really interesting

[pb2015]

This doesn't make sense to me - are we talking about Phil Miller or Fred Frith here?

In 1973 Wyatt was beginning to plan a new band (possibly a new Matching Mole) and asked Frith to be in it, before Wyatt's accident.

[Zeuhlmate]

Dunno if this has been posted before

A note-for-note rendition of Phil Miller's parts (rhythm, themes, solos - everything) on Hatfield's "Mumps"

[Phlakaton]

Dunno if this has been posted before

A note-for-note rendition of Phil Miller's parts (rhythm, themes, solos - everything) on Hatfield's "Mumps"

Woah!

[Zeuhlmate]

Photos

https://www.kimfysonphotography.co.u...eld-the-North/

[chalkpie]

Photos

https://www.kimfysonphotography.co.u...eld-the-North/

Wow! Greatest band ever. These are amazing.

[Paulrus]

Photos

https://www.kimfysonphotography.co.u...eld-the-North/

Wow. Has Aymeric seen those? And that was more than just Egg and Hatfield (with Robert Wyatt sitting in.) Looks like multiple gigs. Can someone identify everyone in those photos?

[calyx]

Wow. Has Aymeric seen those? And that was more than just Egg and Hatfield (with Robert Wyatt sitting in.) Looks like multiple gigs. Can someone identify everyone in those photos?

Not only have I seen those, but several are in my book. These have been "out there" for years, but almost on a daily basis, people discover their existence and wonder if anyone else has seen them. Well, yes, many have.

[Kcrimso]

I wrote a review of Hatfield And The North's excellent debut: https://pienemmatpurot.com/review-ha...orth-s-t-1974/

[Hunchentootz]

I wrote a review of Hatfield And The North's excellent debut: https://pienemmatpurot.com/review-ha...orth-s-t-1974/

As much as I love Mumps (A masterpiece song, PERIOD - their finest one song IMO) and a lot of the tunes on the second one... that first album is SOOOO GOOD as a complete offering. It really is a masterpiece for me.

[Mister Triscuits]

As much as I love Mumps (A masterpiece song, PERIOD - their finest one song IMO) and a lot of the tunes on the second one... that first album is SOOOO GOOD as a complete offering.

They're really two peas in a pod to me. They could just as well have been one mind-blowing double album.

[Conti]

I think in the first album the ideas are all converging whereas in the second album they are somehow pointing to different directions while holding a unity. This is how I try to rationalize my (eternal) preference for their debut, even though I consider The Rotters Club a nearly flawless album.

[Hunchentootz]

They're really two peas in a pod to me. They could just as well have been one mind-blowing double album.

Agree on that, man. Yep.

[Hunchentootz]

I think in the first album the ideas are all converging whereas in the second album they are somehow pointing to different directions while holding a unity. This is how I try to rationalize my (eternal) preference for their debut, even though I consider The Rotters Club a nearly flawless album.

Well put and in sync with my thoughts as well. Both are stellar and each has that magic. I think Phil really shines most of Rotter's of course!

[chalkpie]

Both are ridiculously amazing...as in the best shit ever. Rotters' has the better production (and Mumps), so gun-to-my-head, Rotters' gets the nod by one soap bubble in Fitter Stoke's bath.

[Kcrimso]

Rotters' does everything just a little bit better than the debut.

[aith01]

Both are ridiculously amazing...as in the best shit ever. Rotters' has the better production (and Mumps), so gun-to-my-head, Rotters' gets the nod by one soap bubble in Fitter Stoke's bath.

Fitter Stoke Has a Bath is a phenomenal tune.

[mx20]

I've never even considered that Rotter's could be better than the debut album... There's just a magical "warm" quality on the first Hatfield album that, to my ears, is mostly absent on the second one. But I love 'em both.

[Piskie]

A good review always makes you want to go back and listen again. This one does.

[Kcrimso]

A good review always makes you want to go back and listen again. This one does.

I presume arrogantly that you may have been referring to my review and if so, thank you! I suppose no writer could wish for more than for someone to listen to the album they have written about. Either as a replay or for the very first time.