Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?
please leave him alone already
Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
I have a very broad definition which pretty much includes everything derived from the classic symph roots and everything that has some level of experimentation or complexity. So Ambient, Nu Jazz, Krautrock, Psyche, Avant, Fusion, Drone, Chamber Rock, 20th Century Minimalist, etc. I know it when I hear it.
What's not Prog? Country, Blues, Mainstream Pop, Rap, Hip Hop, Straight Metal, Trad Jazz, Classical.
It's my definition and I'm fine with no-one else sharing it.
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
Well for me I tend to see Electronic bands/artisits like Tangerine Dream, Jean Michel Jarre, Vangelis, Klaus Schulze & Radio Massacre International as progressive. Ambient seems to be the logical extreme end of this spectrum, particularly guys who focus on electronic executions like Steve Roach, Fripp & Eno, Kit Watkins, Harold Budd and the like.
Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-a...re-happy-hour/
Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
Wasnt Silver Apples prog ?
And psybient / chillout would be cousins to ambient? leading to Entheogenic, Ott, FSOL, where does it all end
In response to the OP, I remember the terms progressive and heavy rock being used together as common nouns, the former not as an adjective. In any case, for every rule in English there is an exception.
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Back in the formative years of Prog, it was easy to identify it. Rock music had been, since its inception, 4 minute (or less) songs with a verse, chorus, verse, bridge, verse, chorus construct (or minor variants thereof) so in 66 when Pink Floyd broke that mold we called it "Progressive Rock". And when Larry Coryell added Jazz to his Rock music in the his band The Free Spirits we called it "Progressive Rock". And when Tony Williams' Lifetime - Emergency came out we called it "Progressive Rock". And when we heard Soft Machine we called it "Progressive Rock". Then came Crimson, Egg, Mahavishnu, etc. and it was still Progressive Rock music to us concertgoers in NYC. Of course, by the mid 70s the weeny journalists had segregated things and given each style of Progressive Rock music different cutesy names like "Fusion" and "Art Rock".
Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?
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