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    Don't know if this has been posted before: the first official CD-release from Blow Out, by Håkon Graf / Sveinung Hovensjø / Jon Eberson / Jon Christensen:
    https://norskealbumklassikere.no/pro...7-jazz-nacd230

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    Quote Originally Posted by interbellum View Post
    Don't know if this has been posted before: the first official CD-release from Blow Out, by Håkon Graf / Sveinung Hovensjø / Jon Eberson / Jon Christensen:
    https://norskealbumklassikere.no/pro...7-jazz-nacd230
    Also available from http://www.waysidemusic.com/Music-Pr...D-spc-230.aspx

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    Are Tusmörke’s children’s albums popular in Norway? They’re unlistenable to me. They have a new one coming out. They seem like something that just gets in the way of producing regular albums, but maybe they provide necessary funding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    Are Tusmörke’s children’s albums popular in Norway? They’re unlistenable to me. They have a new one coming out. They seem like something that just gets in the way of producing regular albums, but maybe they provide necessary funding.
    Do they have a new children's album coming out? Or a regular album? I'm not keen on the children's albums either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    Are Tusmörke’s children’s albums popular in Norway? They’re unlistenable to me. They have a new one coming out. They seem like something that just gets in the way of producing regular albums, but maybe they provide necessary funding.
    I didn't even realize Tusmörke made children's albums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherFineMess View Post
    Do they have a new children's album coming out? Or a regular album? I'm not keen on the children's albums either.
    Alas, a children’s album.
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    I also can't get through the children's albums but I love their regular albums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    Are Tusmörke’s children’s albums popular in Norway? They’re unlistenable to me. They have a new one coming out. [...] maybe they provide necessary funding.
    This is at least partly to the edge (if not the core) of truth. The "kid's records" seemingly constitute a set of formal leverage in that the conceptual attribution of faccets in appeal, tradition, narratology, lyrical themes and memes etc. point to certain long-running governmental programmes of cultural lore onto younger generations and their upbringing. However, whether or not they're actually receiving additional official financing by releasing these works, I honestly couldn't say.

    I doubt it, though - and especially the notion that this somehow overshadows artistic creed.

    But there's some serious academic credentials involved, meaning that Tusmørke a) know what they're doing by detail and definitely work from purpose, and b) quite obviously also intend for the "kid's records" to feature as equal components of the chronicle they're effectively building. Musically speaking I can give or take these titles myself, but from an angle of folklore studies (or folkloristics, as they're called up here) and therapeutic/allied health alotments in nurturing and stimulating aesthetics specifically for children, I can condone and at times even endorse it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by interbellum View Post
    Don't know if this has been posted before: the first official CD-release from Blow Out, by Håkon Graf / Sveinung Hovensjø / Jon Eberson / Jon Christensen:
    https://norskealbumklassikere.no/pro...7-jazz-nacd230
    It's good, but to my ears not the hardline masterwork it was sometimes made out to be thoughout the years of scarcity among collectors etc. If you want to hear a truly great Norwegian act on the Compendium label, get Black And White (1976) by Vanessa; supremely energetic, composed jazz-rock with avant-garde touches of faintly Canterburian nomenclature. Halfway between Hatfield/Softs and Passport. "Fragmomentum" (closing track on the album) remains one of the single most impressive works by any rock-related entity in Norwegian music. Amazing and awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    This is at least partly to the edge (if not the core) of truth. The "kid's records" seemingly constitute a set of formal leverage in that the conceptual attribution of faccets in appeal, tradition, narratology, lyrical themes and memes etc. point to certain long-running governmental programmes of cultural lore onto younger generations and their upbringing. However, whether or not they're actually receiving additional official financing by releasing these works, I honestly couldn't say.

    I doubt it, though - and especially the notion that this somehow overshadows artistic creed.

    But there's some serious academic credentials involved, meaning that Tusmørke a) know what they're doing by detail and definitely work from purpose, and b) quite obviously also intend for the "kid's records" to feature as equal components of the chronicle they're effectively building. Musically speaking I can give or take these titles myself, but from an angle of folklore studies (or folkloristics, as they're called up here) and therapeutic/allied health alotments in nurturing and stimulating aesthetics specifically for children, I can condone and at times even endorse it.
    Yes, the new one looks rather involved.
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    ^ Okeydokey.
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    I received the email notification from Bandcamp, so I checked it out. I couldn't make it through the first track, and I like this band.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    Alas, a children’s album.
    I see they have it for pre-order on Bandcamp.

    It has a sci-fi theme, which is interesting, but the sample track doesn't do much for me.

    Here it is, in case anyone is interested. There is one track available to listen to now:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    ^ Okeydokey.
    I mean, it looks impressive really, just the music isn't for me. I wasn't putting it down, I really didn't know if their children's albums were popular or not - your post answered my question! I'm happy for them if they make money from them! But I look forward to their next regular album.
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    I think the Tusmørke children's albums are very much aimed at their native audience. This music is rooted in a very Scandinavian tradition of children's entertainment that grew out of the 60s peace&love movement. It was supposed to both meet children on their level, in their universe, and also instill good values - sharing is caring and such things. Certainly Norway and Sweden had that tradition, I don't know enough about Denmark. But this "movement" was also somewhat aligned with Eastern European strategies, where children's TV and music was used to educate kids in socialist values. As my non-Norwegian father has commented many times, "Norway in the 70s was just a Soviet satelite"...

    Having also spent part of my childhood in England I know that British children's TV cared very little about meanings and values... Magic Roundabout, anyone.

    So yeah, a very local phenomenon, understandably mostly lost in translation, both literally and figuratively speaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob Holm-Lupo View Post
    I think the Tusmørke children's albums are very much aimed at their native audience. This music is rooted in a very Scandinavian tradition of children's entertainment that grew out of the 60s peace&love movement. It was supposed to both meet children on their level, in their universe, and also instill good values - sharing is caring and such things. Certainly Norway and Sweden had that tradition, I don't know enough about Denmark. But this "movement" was also somewhat aligned with Eastern European strategies, where children's TV and music was used to educate kids in socialist values. As my non-Norwegian father has commented many times, "Norway in the 70s was just a Soviet satelite"...

    Having also spent part of my childhood in England I know that British children's TV cared very little about meanings and values... Magic Roundabout, anyone.

    So yeah, a very local phenomenon, understandably mostly lost in translation, both literally and figuratively speaking.
    Same in Denmark, but we are the anarchistic italians in comparison, and fun didn't have to have a purpose and a 'eductional' direction. PC and Woke'ism is unfortunately sneeking in this these years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob Holm-Lupo View Post
    Magic Roundabout, anyone.
    Or Wombles maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    It's good, but to my ears not the hardline masterwork it was sometimes made out to be thoughout the years of scarcity among collectors etc. If you want to hear a truly great Norwegian act on the Compendium label, get Black And White (1976) by Vanessa; supremely energetic, composed jazz-rock with avant-garde touches of faintly Canterburian nomenclature. Halfway between Hatfield/Softs and Passport. "Fragmomentum" (closing track on the album) remains one of the single most impressive works by any rock-related entity in Norwegian music. Amazing and awesome!
    Yes, "Blow Out" is indeed quite laid back, but I like that sound (especially the Moog-playing). The Black And White-album was also re-released on CD recently by Norske Albumklassikere: https://norskealbumklassikere.no/pro...d880189d&_ss=r . One track of that album, Street Talk, (just like one track of Blow Out) appeared on the compilation-CD with 10 Compendium-bands, released in 2010: https://www.discogs.com/release/3707...endium-Records

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    Some of you presumably know Kings of Convenience? Pseudo-wannabe Belle&Sebastian/SimonGarf/Drake duo from Bergen/Norway with a career peak around 2005? Lots of fun to tell in time, but this is the excellent EP released by their precursor unit Skog in 1996 and featuring both Eirik and Erlend doing what they very evidently didn't even know was neo-psychedelia - and damn good at it! One of my prized CDs.

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    I believe my copy of the new Motorpsycho shipped a couple of days ago. Looking forward to that!
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