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    Quote Originally Posted by Nashorn View Post
    I noticed have a Jaga Jazzist-shaped hole in my collection (except for their collaboration with Motorpsycho). What would be a good starting point?
    I would second Good Richard's recommendation. One-Armed Bandit is a very good starting point.

    These guys are awesome, IMO. That second tune (can't spell the name right now) on One-Armed Bandit is a killer.

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    Thank you for the recommendations and for the Bandcamp link. I guess I will start with the Bandit then and proceed from there. :-)

    Edit: So I bought both "One-Armed Bandit" and "Starfire" after having a listen on Bandcamp. I really don't know which one I prefer, but I like both very much. So I guess I'll buy more once I have digested these two. Thanks again for the recommendation!
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    with violinist Ola Kvernberg !
    Awesome. Zep + Mahavishnu?

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    From the latest Big Ears Festival email -


    The Norwegians Invade Again!

    It's with great pleasure that we once again bring an all-star cast of Norwegian artists to Big Ears. This year's lineup of imaginative Norwegians at the festival includes bewitching vocalist Susanna, preeminent free jazz trio The Thing, electro-pop provocateur Jenny Hval, kaleidoscopic nu-jazz collective Jaga Jazzist, and vital pianist and composer Jon Balke.
    . . .

    Susanna will return to Big Ears to present the US premiere of Go Dig My Grave, featuring Swiss harpist Giovanna Pessi, accordion player and Big Ears alum Frode Haltli, and Kentucky based multi-instrumentalist Cheyenne Mize. Mixing Shakespeare and Joy Division, Purcell and pop, this program dips into darkness to arrive in light, expressed by the diaphanous union of Pessi’s harp and Susanna’s exquisite vocals. Known to cover the likes of songwriters Leonard Cohen and Nick Drake, Susanna will also perform a solo set of original compositions and covers at Big Ears.

    One of the most ecstatic and electrifying bands in free jazz history, Scandinavian power trio The Thing is saxophonist Mats Gustafsson, bassist Ingebrigt Håker Flaten, and drummer Paal Nilssen-Love. With unconstrained improvisations and a heavy dose of funk rock, The Thing will surely bring the heat to Big Ears. Gustafsson will also team up with Kieran Hebden (Four Tet), and Nilssen-Love will collaborate with Arto Lindsay -- two rare duo performances not to be missed.

    Returning to Big Ears is the powerfully evocative singer, songwriter, artist, and novelist Jenny Hval, whose polyphonic artistry was in full display at the 2014 festival. Hval’s oeuvre demands listeners to ponder uncomfortable questions and wrestle with hard realizations -- greed and manipulation, pornography and gluttony, among others. Expect the unexpected with her live performances, which showcase Hval's thoughtful provocation through collaboration and stunning visuals.

    Phenoms of the jazz world Jaga Jazzist will treat Big Ears audiences to two unique performances during the festival weekend. One of the shows will feature a special program with the band augmented by prolific multi-instrumentalist Stale Storlokken and pianist/composer Jon Balke of Magnetic North Orchestra. The second show will be an instrumentally ambidextrous set of Jaga Jazzist's adventurous works in their classic configuration, fusing together classical, jazz, and electronics, representing the best of Norwegian innovation.

    In addition to his performance with Jaga Jazzist, pianist and composer Jon Balke will perform his own works at Big Ears. A remarkable exercise in musical possibility, Balke's strikingly original sound is a mélange of jazz, world, classical, folk, and beyond. His latest release with international collective Siwan, Hahnou Houm, is a composition based around traditional Arabo-Andalusian poetry, aimed at promoting religious coexistence in the modern world.

    These performances are made possible in part by the generous support of Music Norway, Norsk Jazzforum, the Royal Norwegian Consulate General New York, Ultima, and National Jazzscene.

    Soon, you'll be able to plan your sonic adventure at Big Ears with our detailed concert schedule, which we will reveal on Tuesday, February 6, so make sure to follow along on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Stay tuned for more festival updates in the coming weeks.

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    OK, sorry but this is the only thread that's remotely recent where this might fit. I just broke my Panzerpappa cherry with Astromalist, and given that I'm now on the Tank Daddy bus, how does Astromalist compare to their other work, and what would most fans view as the next move? It's pretty great, and I might be able to divine the answers from past threads, but to save me some time, ....

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    their last one, Pestrottedans is pretty excellent
    Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?

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    Thanks, LP

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    Quote Originally Posted by moecurlythanu View Post
    Panzerpappa [...] what would most fans view as the next move?
    All Pappzis are good, but alas there are only two of them available nowadays, you'll want Pestrottedans.

    The very early Pappzi were less refined and more raw and raunchy in sound. I like all of it, but the later ones undoubtedly come across as more "professional". Astromalist has one of their finest tracks in "Ugler i Mosen", which almost plays on the idea of an updated National Health going 'Nordic prog'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dok View Post

    bewitching vocalist Susanna
    . . .

    Susanna will return to Big Ears to present the US premiere of Go Dig My Grave, featuring Swiss harpist Giovanna Pessi, accordion player and Big Ears alum Frode Haltli, and Kentucky based multi-instrumentalist Cheyenne Mize. Mixing Shakespeare and Joy Division, Purcell and pop, this program dips into darkness to arrive in light, expressed by the diaphanous union of Pessi’s harp and Susanna’s exquisite vocals. Known to cover the likes of songwriters Leonard Cohen and Nick Drake, Susanna will also perform a solo set of original compositions and covers at Big Ears.
    Susanna's (and hubby Helge Sten/Deathprod's) apartment, 16 feet from mine in Dalsbergstien at St. Hanshaugen in the middle of Oslo, pic taken from my kitchen window:

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    I love her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    Susanna's (and hubby Helge Sten/Deathprod's) apartment, 16 feet from mine in Dalsbergstien at St. Hanshaugen in the middle of Oslo, pic taken from my kitchen window:

    IMG_0860.jpg

    I love her.
    Maybe some Caucasian lullaby can do the trick.

    She's kind of hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zappathustra View Post
    She's kind of hot.
    "I usually don't smile at strangers, but I've always appreciated weirdos - so I can smile at you!"

    - Susanna talks to Scrotum at Rouleur, a local hipster combinat winebin/cycle repair shop

    (true story)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    "I usually don't smile at strangers, but I've always appreciated weirdos - so I can smile at you!"

    - Susanna talks to Scrotum at Rouleur, a local hipster combinat winebin/cycle repair shop

    (true story)
    It's only a matter of time she succumbs. Whenn it happens, I want a detailed DVD with booklet and unreleased material, in 5.1 remixes.

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    Or, just...



    Quote Originally Posted by Zappathustra View Post
    unreleased material
    Perhaps finding the happy medium is harder than we know.

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    ^ Nah, you'll need the DVD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    ^ Nah, you'll need the DVD.
    Which one of us?

    Or, both.
    Perhaps finding the happy medium is harder than we know.

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    I have just heard Elephant9 - Greatest Show on Earth (2018).

    More Ståle Storløkken/SuperSilent/Intelligence, less Rock'n Roll - Love it !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    Oh, and John mentioned Svein Finnerud - whose near-mythical band Svein Finnerud Trio released what I personally consider to be the most important Norwegian jnon-classical recording of all time, Plastic Sun (1970). This piano/bass/drums unit was arguably the very first truly avant-garde (and postmodern) act to make an impact in Norway, and some of their musical approaches and aesthetic "philosophy" was unexplored even internationally at the time. I've got all of their works on vinyl (including the ultra-rare collab with oddball painter-become-poet Trond Botnen) and I treasure them more than any other Norwegian titles in my collection.
    Don't know if this was already posted. Plastic Sun will be re-released by ODIN Records.

    I must confess I didn't know this trio, but it's interesting to see two Annette Peacock-compositions on this album, which were originally written for LP's by Paul Bley I believe.
    Also interesting is the fact that Helge Sten (a.k.a. Deathprod) has remastered the music for this CD from the original tapes.
    Sten is probably best known for his work with a.o. Sidsel Endresen, Susanna Wallumrød, Jazza Jazzist and Nils Petter Molvær.
    After listening to the music I think that it's a bit too avant garde jazz for me (after the ECM-like first two songs), but I will try harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by interbellum View Post
    Don't know if this was already posted. Plastic Sun will be re-released by ODIN Records.

    I must confess I didn't know this trio, but it's interesting to see two Annette Peacock-compositions on this album, which were originally written for LP's by Paul Bley I believe.
    Also interesting is the fact that Helge Sten (a.k.a. Deathprod) has remastered the music for this CD from the original tapes.
    Sten is probably best known for his work with a.o. Sidsel Endresen, Susanna Wallumrød, Jazza Jazzist and Nils Petter Molvær.
    After listening to the music I think that it's a bit too avant garde jazz for me (after the ECM-like first two songs), but I will try harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by interbellum View Post
    Don't know if this was already posted. Plastic Sun will be re-released
    Monster of an album!
    Macht das ohr auf!

    COSMIC EYE RECORDS

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    Quote Originally Posted by interbellum View Post
    Don't know if this was already posted. Plastic Sun will be re-released by ODIN Records.
    Sweet! I've been wanting to hear this one since Richard mentioned it a while ago. His enthusiasm for it piqued my interest something fierce.

    Any idea when it's going to be released? I couldn't find any info on the facebook page, but I could have just overlooked it.

    Just found out it's on Apple Music, so I can check out Plastic Sun (and more of the Svein Finnerud Trio) while I wait for the physical disc to come out.

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    ^ And here am I stocking mint original vinyls for all three albums (except Thoughts, recorded during an 80s reunion). They go for anywhere between 500-800£ these days.

    From now on if hipster visitors see those titles in my collection, they're gonna think I went on a bandwagon. Somehow very few of them have ever heard of "originals". Darn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    ^ And here am I stocking mint original vinyls for all three albums (except Thoughts, recorded during an 80s reunion). They go for anywhere between 500-800£ these days.

    From now on if hipster visitors see those titles in my collection, they're gonna think I went on a bandwagon. Somehow very few of them have ever heard of "originals". Darn.
    Don't despair, my friend. There are still some of us who appreciate that sort of thing, and we know the truth.

    I for one am a bit jealous! I'd love to have those albums as original vinyl editions -- purely for my own enjoyment and satisfaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aith01 View Post

    Any idea when it's going to be released? I couldn't find any info on the facebook page, but I could have just overlooked it.
    The press-information mentions Plastic Sun will be released April 20th, at least for the Benelux where [PIAS] is the distrubutor.

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    ^ As far as I can see, the reissue loses the foldout cover, which was part of its essential appeal as surface design, IMO. The pics inside perfectly captured their unconventional appearance as posing youngsters of the contemporary avant-garde, spread nude across black sheets and everything. This whole physical configuration - along with the highly controversial approach to their musical medias and the performance of them - was one of the main reasons why they nurtured such a fresh impression with post-modernist audiences in Norway. When I got Plastic Sun back in '93/94, there was luckily no "hipster community", but neither no Norwegian international "wave of creativity" to speak of. That came later, in the early 2000s.

    You know, 'Ellen' is a pretty ordinary name in Norway. If you Google it here today and add an 'A', 'Andrea Wang' is the immediate tale of search. Days have changed.
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