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    Time for a New Jazz Thread

    I'll begin with this, Charlie Haden Liberation Music Orchestra + Carla Bley covering Bill Frisell's "Throughout"

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    No more jazz threads on a prog rock forum please! My local bar has jazz night every Wednesday , luckily footie season has started so i can watch a match at the other bar !

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    Why not? Some of the genre includes a jazz fusion sub genre. While I am not traditionally a normal fan of jazz, some of it seems to have grown on me-I think between my dad, Sesame Street as a kid, memories from my teens and Tom's radio show, I have found a small interest in it of sorts. I cannot stand the blaring of big band, but I like the stuff that is mainly bass, drums, piano, sax and maybe guitar (which was most of the acts at the casino lounge I used to sit over while waiting for my parents). I could not tell anyone anything about measure or composition or stuff like point and counterpoint or even who is playing, but I do know I like some of the stuff I hear.
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    I'm in.Check out this gem.Charles Brackeen on sax,Dennis Gonzalez-trumpet,Malachi Favors-bass,Alvin Fielder-drums,from Brackeen's cd "Bannar".The tune is "Stone Blue".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus View Post
    No more jazz threads on a prog rock forum please! My local bar has jazz night every Wednesday , luckily footie season has started so i can watch a match at the other bar !
    Good, then please keep the fucking G'n'R/GTR/Heart/Bon Jovi threads out of the way as well.
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    I listen to mostly jazz from the 20s and 30s, especially while I'm working. Anyone who enjoys it should check out this station.

    http://www.loudcity.com/stations/radio-dismuke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus View Post
    No more jazz threads on a prog rock forum please!
    Why did you even open it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune Blackwings View Post
    I like the stuff that is mainly bass, drums, piano, sax and maybe guitar.
    No piano, but you "maybe" might like the guitar:

    Hell, they ain't even old-timey ! - Homer Stokes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post
    I'll begin with this
    Not that you can't start your own thread, but I bumped the jazz discussion thread in case you thought it had dropped off.
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    A few of my faves from 2013 include one of Ken Vandermark's new recordings... Made to Break - Provoke



    Then there's Alex Cline's "For People in Sorrow" an homage to the Art Ensemble piece.




    Another solid album - Antonio Sanchez - New Life with Binney, McCaslin, and Escreet

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    I'll certainly keep the Sanchez rec in mind

    I just got in my mailbox, The Wrong Object's After The Exhibition

    first impression is that the rather new-lineup (only three of the six remain) is slightly more prog rock than previously hear...

    Apparently the new memebers met in Solazzo's PaNoPTiCuM
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    I think we should use this thread to demonstrate just how varied the musics which are covered by the term "jazz" can be. So here's something very different from the last example:


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    What is jazz?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jake View Post
    I think we should use this thread to demonstrate just how varied the musics which are covered by the term "jazz" can be.
    Good idea. This one's been spinning at Chez Mo lately:





    And Soul Jazz Records has been reissuing hip sides, of which this is but one:

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    Stop it ! Stop it ! pleeeeeze !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus View Post
    Stop it ! Stop it ! pleeeeeze !
    Why, when the obvious solution for you is to not open the thread as others have suggested?

    Listen, prog was very much a gateway drug to jazz for so many of us...and, in fact, having just returned from Siena, where I covered the Summer Workshop, and one of the bits of interview footage about how the Fondazione Siena Jazz got started in 1977 is very revealing (full article running on Friday):

    Many jazz study programs have historical ties to universities, but Fondazione Siena Jazz is something else entirely: a grassroots foundation that grew, very organically, out of the needs of the city's inhabitants. "It started out because, basically, there were a bunch of young musicians in the '60s," says Francesco Martinelli, Director of the Jazz Studies Centre for the Siena Jazz Foundation and de facto press officer when the Fondazione invites foreign journalists to cover the Summer Workshop. "They heard about this jazz music when they were into what we used to call prog rock—rock with complication. Perigeo was a very famous Weather Report- like group, mixing jazz with rock, with people who were already known in the jazz world, especially the pianist, Franco D'Andrea. The bassist Giovanni Tommaso was also extremely influential."
    Progressive rock musicians wanted to learn more about jazz, and that drove the beginning of the foundation that, 36 years later, is still going strong as a (now) world-renowned institution that is NOT tied to a university (like most) and is completely non-profit.

    The link between jazz and prog has existed from the very beginning (21st Century Schizoid Man, being one example). So for folks to want to discuss jazz here is perfectly natural.

    Also, if you feel that much distaste for jazz, then you've just not heard the shit that you'd like. Try Mederic Collignon's latest Crimson tribute album (in another thread here). It's jazz unequivocally, but with deep roots in prog at the same time.

    Not all jazz is mainstream swing or endless soloing. Look a little deeper. If you like prog, there's no doubt that there's a good representation of jazz out there that will appeal to you, too.

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    I think i may have posted this clip before.In any event, here it is again.Duet for marimba and trumpet.I dig it mightily and have from the first time i heard the lp(unfortunately, still not out on cd).Khan Jamal-marimba,Clint Jackson-trumpet, from Khan Jamal's superb record "Give The Vibes Some".



    One of the great compositions of the new thing in jazz.IMO, the magnum opus from the Art Ensemble of Chicago,People In Sorrow.


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    Another gem i may have posted on PE recently,but worth another listen.

    Jeanne Lee-vocals,Ran Blake -piano, from their groundbreaking 1961 record "The Newest Sound Around".A title well chosen.
    Last edited by walt; 08-12-2013 at 08:54 AM.
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    SOme funny, Jazz based comedy


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    Quote Originally Posted by walt View Post
    One of the great compositions of the new thing in jazz.IMO, the magnum opus from the Art Ensemble of Chicago,People In Sorrow.
    Hey Walt, did you hear Alex Cline's "For People In Sorrow" released this year?
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    Cozy, i did.Good stuff,thanks for the clips you posted.Cline et al did Roscoe Mitchell proud.
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    This is the main prog forum shouldn't a jazz thread be in the OT forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    This is the main prog forum shouldn't a jazz thread be in the OT forum?
    Wow, good catch! What would we do without you?
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