King Crimson News

[mogrooves]

I'm surprised this group isn't playing "Cirkus"--afaik--the one song from that LP they used to do.

[polmico]

"Cirkus" would indeed be nice, but don't malign (or forget) "Lady of the Dancing Water" performed by the Islands band.

[ProgArtist]

Preorder :
http://shop.schizoidshop.com/king-cr...983-p1536.aspx

CLUB42
King Crimson
Rehearsals & Blows
May - November 1983

1 Adrian And Robert
2 Slow Groove
3 Funk Groove
4 Sleepish
5 Slow Sleepless
6 An Entry Of The Crims
7 Sacramento
8 Perfecting Three Of A Perfect Pair
9 Open Hearted
10 Working On Sleepless
11 Easy To Solo Over
12 Do You Dig Me?
13 Industrial
14 Steinberger Melody
15 Shidare Zakura

Adrian Belew - guitar
Robert Fripp - guitar
Tony Levin - bass guitar & Stick
Bill Bruford - drums

Taken together with The Champaign-Urbana Sessions (CLUB21), the work-in-progress sketches, outtakes, bright ideas, dead-ends and cul-de-sacs gathered here provide a kind of counter-factual, alternative history to King Crimson’s catalogue; a shadow album that traces those points where things came together or fell apart in the trying, where ideas either bloomed or withered.
Speaking after the release of Three Of A Perfect Pair in 1984, Bill Bruford commented upon the album that took the group a year not so much to make as it did to find. “It did take quite a while...It’s kind of the fourth album with this version of the band. You see, we recorded one LP and more or less dumped it. We couldn’t quite see the way it was working out. When we reconvened the problems we had just evaporated! Sometimes, time is the only thing you need. Just to get away. And then suddenly the project was on its feet again and we knew where it was going and what to do.”

This didn't really get much discussion here. Do any of you have this? What do you think? I'm a big fan of 80's Crim, so it seems like this should be up my alley, but I don't tend to get a lot of mileage out of outtake-type releases. Any gems?

[Mister Triscuits]

This didn't really get much discussion here. Do any of you have this? What do you think? I'm a big fan of 80's Crim, so it seems like this should be up my alley, but I don't tend to get a lot of mileage out of outtake-type releases. Any gems?

It's not out yet--still on pre-order.

[Obscured]

More Live release news

It’s a fabbo-to-the-max, triple whammy of a day for King Crimson fans. Not only is the first in-concert download by the current line-up now available via DGMLive, a mail-order only, 2-disc official collectors bootleg edition of the gig will be released on the 17th March.
If that’s not enough, then how about a full live album gathering together the complete King Crimson setlist compiled from numerous nights and selected performances. In response to overwhelming demand for video of the group’s shows, the multi-disc set will come with selected in-concert footage.
This major release will be made available to coincide with the start of King Crimson’s return to live performance later in September 2016.
If you don’t want or can’t wait until March or September, you can download King Crimson’s performance at Toronto’s Queen Elizabeth Theatre on November 20th, 2015 today. A superb example of the band in full-flight, it features some of the best-loved pieces in King Crimson’s catalogue as well as new material such as Radical Action To Unseat The Hold Of Monkey Mind and Meltdown. You can download it here right now.

http://www.dgmlive.com/archive.htm?artist=35&show=2011

This Official Collectors’ Bootleg captures King Crimson on a single night in the middle of the band’s Canadian tour in November 2015. With the exception of one small edit following an announcement before the band take the stage, the running time of this concert is exactly as it was heard in the hall by those fortunate enough to have been there. Even by the high standards set by King Crimson’s current line-up, this concert was agreed by all involved to have that extra special ingredient, making it the perfect choice when seeking an official release to counter the poorly recorded bootlegs that have begun to circulate.
Featuring the recorded debut of new material such as Meltdown & Radical Action, the three drummer percussion pieces Hell Hounds of Krim & Banshee Legs Bell Hassle & a variety of King Crimson classics – including material from In The Court Of The Crimson King performed & recorded live for the first time in decades, a return to the live set of Easy Money for the first time since 1974 & more recent powerhouse pieces such as Level Five & VROOOM – all material that the seven piece King Crimson has made very much its own in an absurdly short time of touring.
The first release by the current band was the 2014 mini-album, “Live at the Orpheum”. This autumn, they will be releasing their long-awaited and much anticipated first major album – a comprehensive live release, taking the best performances of each song from the extensive set list (which changes nightly) & also including footage of selected performances. It will be released to coincide with the band’s 2016 European tour, which begins in the UK with two concerts at the Waterside Theatre in Aylesbury on September 4th & 5th, the band’s only UK dates for 2016.
For those who cannot wait until the autumn, this Collector’s Edition makes the perfect teaser.
The first full concert release by the current line-up of King Crimson will be released via mail order on March 17th. You can pre-order here:

Inner Knot (USA customers)
http://shop.schizoidshop.com/featured-items-c12.aspx

Burning Shed (UK and Europe)
https://www.burningshed.com/store/kingcrimson/

Mel Collins: Saxes & flute, Robert Fripp: Guitar & keyboards, Gavin Harrison: Drums, Jakko Jakszyk: Guitar & voice, Tony Levin: Basses & stick, Pat Mastelotto: Drums, Bill Rieflin: Drums & keyboards
The tracklisting is as follows
Disc 1:
1 Threshold Soundscape
2 Larks’ Tongues In Aspic Part I
3 Pictures Of A City
4 VROOOM
5 Radical Action (To Unseat the
Hold of Monkey Mind)
6 Meltdown
7 Hell Hounds of Krim
8 The ConstruKction of Light
9 Red
10 Epitaph
Disc 2:
1 Banshee Legs Bell Hassle
2 Easy Money
3 Level Five
4 The Letters
5 Sailor's Tale
6 Starless
7 The Court of the Crimson King
8 21st Century Schizoid Man

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"Easy Money" is available as a FREE download now- http://www.dgmlive.com/archive.htm?artist=35&show=2011
Auto-pre-order. Really wanted to hear "E$" most, very happy camper here.

[N_Singh]

I think that this group does the definitive rendition of the title track to Larks part one. People can clamor about the thunderous sound of three drummers, but the wonderfully orchestrated polyrhythmic percussion intro is sublime. The flute adds a very nice Pastoral counterbalance to the heaviness, and the Outro sounds beautiful

[Sean]

The version of Easy Money is a free download. Sounds cool, though it's almost bizzare to hear it live all these years later.

http://www.dgmlive.com/archive.htm?artist=35&show=2011

[MDC]

So...it looks like KC has a new drummer for the fall tour in Jeremy Stacy. Maybe Reiflin can decide to do the tour after all and we can just have four drummers. That wouldn't be overkill, right?

See here: http://www.dgmlive.com/news.htm?entry=5474

Discuss.

[oilersfan]

Rumor around the campfire is that Rieflin is fighting some type of serious illness, perhaps that his cancer has returned.

[Phlakaton]

So...it looks like KC has a new drummer for the fall tour in Jeremy Stacy. Maybe Reiflin can decide to do the tour after all and we can just have four drummers. That wouldn't be overkill, right?

See here: http://www.dgmlive.com/news.htm?entry=5474

Discuss.

I for one would love to see Mike Giles - alone - done.

[Dave (in MA)]

Stacy has quite a resume.

[Spiral]

Rumor around the campfire is that Rieflin is fighting some type of serious illness, perhaps that his cancer has returned.

Yikes. I didn't know he had it--really hope the reason isn't that serious, whatever the case may be.

[bondegezou]

Stacy has quite a resume.

He does. Jeremy Stacey (I see DGM spelt his name wrong!) and his identical twin guitarist Paul are big prog fans. Although Jeremy is better known for his work with the likes of Guy Chambers, Sheryl Crow and Noel Gallagher, he and Paul worked on Syndestructible and planned further work with Chris Squire and Gerard Johnson after they all got fed up with Steve Nardelli. Jeremy subsequently played on Chris Squire's Swiss Choir and the Squackett album. I'm sure he'll be thrilled at the job.

(Although I still don't hear why Crimson needs three drummers!)

Henry

[chalkpie]

(Although I still don't hear why Crimson needs three drummers!)

Henry

I only saw the show once in NYC, not sure if "need" is an adjective I would use, but I'm glad they did it and enjoyed it very much so. For three percussionists to have your shit together to create the space and interaction on music of this difficulty is beyond commendable. Why does Varese need 13 percussionists for "Ameriques"? Probably could've gotten away with 11, but it sure is fun to hear all that racket I'm a fan of this idea.

[bondegezou]

I only saw the show once in NYC, not sure if "need" is an adjective I would use, but I'm glad they did it and enjoyed it very much so. For three percussionists to have your shit together to create the space and interaction on music of this difficulty is beyond commendable. Why does Varese need 13 percussionists for "Ameriques"? Probably could've gotten away with 11, but it sure is fun to hear all that racket I'm a fan of this idea.

Well, you know, if "The Hell Hounds of Krim" compared to "Amériques", I'd be more sympathetic to that argument, but it doesn't.

I've only heard "Easy Money" on the new live release so far, and the percussion detail on the piece is lovely, yet the overall performance feels stilted, I'm guessing because the togetherness of the shit required robs the piece of a certain dynamism.

Henry

[Phlakaton]

Well, you know, if "The Hell Hounds of Krim" compared to "Amériques", I'd be more sympathetic to that argument, but it doesn't.

I've only heard "Easy Money" on the new live release so far, and the percussion detail on the piece is lovely, yet the overall performance feels stilted, I'm guessing because the togetherness of the shit required robs the piece of a certain dynamism.

Henry

Henry

I think you nailed it for me. The fact that they need to maneuver around a larger group like they do - certainly kills something - at least for me. Not that its totally undesirable - its just a touch reigned in on some weird level.

[jamesmanzi]

(Although I still don't hear why Crimson needs three drummers!)

3 years into the project and I still don't understand this question. They need three drummers because they feel like having three drummers, and it's hard to have three drummers with less than three or more than three. Three drummers is the perfect amount of drummers for a band that wishes to have three drummers.

What deeper answer are people looking for?

[Phlakaton]

3 years into the project and I still don't understand this question. They need three drummers because they feel like having three drummers, and it's hard to have three drummers with less than three or more than three. Three drummers is the perfect amount of drummers for a band that wishes to have three drummers.

What deeper answer are people looking for?

my holy hand grenade has no pin! Count to 3!

[calyx]

They need three drummers because they feel like having three drummers, and it's hard to have three drummers with less than three or more than three. Three drummers is the perfect amount of drummers for a band that wishes to have three drummers.

You could use a variation of the above as an answer to just about any possible question. Very useful to have. Thanks.

[Sean]

Three of a perfect pair suggest that "two's company, three's a crowd".

[Spiral]

3 years into the project and I still don't understand this question. ... Three drummers is the perfect amount of drummers for a band that wishes to have three drummers.

What deeper answer are people looking for?

Exactly. They didn't need to have both a drummer and percussionist in late '72, but the combo worked wonders. Ditto two guitarists in '81 or two drummers in '94/'08. They had an interesting idea and chose the right lineup to realize it.

I never heard of this guy Stacy either, but he's got to be doing something right to be chosen by this group. I'll trust they all know what they're doing.

[Baribrotzer]

I wonder who'll handle keyboards. Bill did formerly. The parts aren't hard - mostly sampled-Mellotron lines or chords - but it would help to have someone who did know how to play keys.

[MDC]

I wonder who'll handle keyboards. Bill did formerly. The parts aren't hard - mostly sampled-Mellotron lines or chords - but it would help to have someone who did know how to play keys.

Per Sid Smith in the DGM Guestbook, "Jeremy is also a keyboard player as well." I guess this means he'll cover for Bill in that capacity too.

[Steve Nardelli]

Per Sid Smith in the DGM Guestbook, "Jeremy is also a keyboard player as well." I guess this means he'll cover for Bill in that capacity too.

Jeremy and his twin brother Paul are good friends with Robert Fripp from their younger days in the West country. Both brothers are brilliant multi-instrument musicians, although Jeremy is predominantly a drummer and Paul a guitarist, and both played with The Syn on Syndestructible.

[unclemeat]

From David Singleton's diary :
In addition to the 2015 tour releases, "there will, of course be a boxed set to go under the Christmas Tree (unreleased gems from the 1980s being unearthed even as I write) (&) a KC book".