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    could it be "waxing" as in pontificating, as in a recorded conversation?
    Why is it whenever someone mentions an artist that was clearly progressive (yet not the Symph weenie definition of Prog) do certain people feel compelled to snort "thats not Prog" like a whiny 5th grader?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    No matter what SW tried to correct, certainly Tresspass, Cryme & Foxtrot are sounding odd in most places.
    I know he seems to be everywhere but SW never touched these albums.

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    As I understand it the Let's Make a Hit Waxing CD is a compilation of the best moments of the studio sessions and it’s a new mix from the multitrack tapes. It’s not a jam and it has never been bootlegged because it is brand new (not the recording but the mix and the selection). The name come from Robert Fripp who can be heard saying it on a studio tape.

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    ^Similar to "Keep That One, Nick" from the Larks' boxset or "Are You Recording, Gary?" on the 80s box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    May I sduggest that some of those Gabe-era have also weird WTF production?

    No matter what SW tried to correct, certainly Tresspass, Cryme & Foxtrot are sounding odd in most places.
    Selling & Lamb are much better-sounding, compared to those three.



    Is so, that would be a shame it only appears 51 years after the jam.
    Not sure why it would be a "shame", but I was guessing it was a title arrived upon by its producer based on something said on the tapes, as in Keep That One, Nick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberian Cat View Post
    As I understand it the Let's Make a Hit Waxing CD is a compilation of the best moments of the studio sessions and it’s a new mix from the multitrack tapes. It’s not a jam and it has never been bootlegged because it is brand new (not the recording but the mix and the selection). The name come from Robert Fripp who can be heard saying it on a studio tape.
    Thanks. What do those best moments consist of, I wonder. Is it complete songs as we know them from the album, or a collection of bits from the songs, or improv bits from when the band gets loose, or what? A bit odd that they call it a "single track". A single track on the CD, maybe, but a collection of who knows how many bits. I don't own the Larks box or the 80's box, if I did I might have a better idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    May I sduggest that some of those Gabe-era have also weird WTF production?

    No matter what SW tried to correct, certainly Tresspass, Cryme & Foxtrot are sounding odd in most places.
    Selling & Lamb are much better-sounding, compared to those three.
    Quote Originally Posted by LeFrog View Post
    I know he seems to be everywhere but SW never touched these albums.
    Correct, Steven Wilson has never been involved with the Genesis remasters or remixes. In fact, he's stated more than once that he was never a fan of Genesis. But he liked Steve Hackett's solo stuff, which is why he did those Hackett remixes a few years back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aith01 View Post
    Correct, Steven Wilson has never been involved with the Genesis remasters or remixes. In fact, he's stated more than once that he was never a fan of Genesis. But he liked Steve Hackett's solo stuff, which is why he did those Hackett remixes a few years back.
    As I recall SW also made a live guest appearance a while back. I think it was on "Shadow of the Hierophant". There was a video of it floating around YT at one point but I can't find it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulrus View Post
    As I recall SW also made a live guest appearance a while back. I think it was on "Shadow of the Hierophant". There was a video of it floating around YT at one point but I can't find it now.
    I only vaguely remember that... But SW did sing on "Can-Utility..." on "Genesis Revisited 2". It's hard to imagine him not liking Genesis after hearing "The Watchmaker"... If anything, I find it more difficult to believe he liked ELP much, although he remixed the first couple of albums. Or that he would have turned down remixing the Genesis albums from 1970-77 if given the chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    I find it more difficult to believe he liked ELP much, although he remixed the first couple of albums. Or that he would have turned down remixing the Genesis albums from 1970-77 if given the chance.
    Agreed. I could imagine him warming to something like The Lamb MUCH more than something like Tarkus. Maybe the money was too good to pass up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    But SW did sing on "Can-Utility..." on "Genesis Revisited 2". It's hard to imagine him not liking Genesis after hearing "The Watchmaker"... If anything, I find it more difficult to believe he liked ELP much, although he remixed the first couple of albums. Or that he would have turned down remixing the Genesis albums from 1970-77 if given the chance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulrus View Post
    Agreed. I could imagine him warming to something like The Lamb MUCH more than something like Tarkus. Maybe the money was too good to pass up.
    I agree it seems kinda hard to believe, but he has said in at least two different interviews that he was never really a fan of Genesis. I believe one of them was when he remixed Misplaced Childhood (when he discussed the comparisons of Marillion to Genesis and that he didn't agree with the comparison), and then one around the time his remixes of the Steve Hackett albums were coming out. It surprised me, since Genesis seemed more in his wheelhouse than someone like ELP. But to each their own.

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    Hard to believe the guy who brought us The Watchmaker was never a fan of Genesis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
    It's hard to imagine him not liking Genesis after hearing "The Watchmaker".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave (in MA) View Post
    Hard to believe the guy who brought us The Watchmaker was never a fan of Genesis.
    Hard to believe you're not a fan of my posts ! ;-)
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    ^

    There was a "prog quiz" thing he did with Mikael Akerfeldt several years ago I think, and one of the questions was which Genesis song was the first to feature Phil Collins on lead vocals. Steven answered correctly with "For Absent Friends" off Nursery Cryme, where some folks might have guessed "More Fool Me". So while he may not be a Genesis fan, he evidently has some familiarity with their music. I'd be surprised if he didn't like at least a few of their songs here and there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aith01 View Post
    ^

    There was a "prog quiz" thing he did with Mikael Akerfeldt several years ago I think, and one of the questions was which Genesis song was the first to feature Phil Collins on lead vocals. Steven answered correctly with "For Absent Friends" off Nursery Cryme, where some folks might have guessed "More Fool Me". So while he may not be a Genesis fan, he evidently has some familiarity with their music. I'd be surprised if he didn't like at least a few of their songs here and there.
    Extremely strange. I find it very difficult for SW to not have some appreciation (even influence) of Banks' sense of harmonic structures/progressions.
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    Extremely strange. I find it very difficult for SW to not have some appreciation (even influence) of Banks' sense of harmonic structures/progressions.
    I concur. It always seemed like a given to me, which is why it struck me when I read that interview where he said he wasn't a fan of Genesis. He didn't knock them, it was more like a "not my cup of tea" statement.

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    I honestly thought his ELP gigs were pure money gigs too, and that he wasn't really a fan.

    I also doubt he was asked about the Genesis catalog...pretty sure they were only ever going to work with Nick Davis on that project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    I also doubt he was asked about the Genesis catalog...pretty sure they were only ever going to work with Nick Davis on that project.
    For sure. And I think that project got rolling quite a while before Steven began taking on remix work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    I honestly thought his ELP gigs were pure money gigs too, and that he wasn't really a fan.
    That doesn't jibe with the fact that he did the first two albums only, and declined to do any later ones, as I understood it, because he had no interest in anything post-Tarkus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calyx View Post
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    Hard to believe you're not a fan of my posts ! ;-)
    I guess I should have kept reading till the end before hitting Reply.

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    At first, I was concerned about Frippy's well being (more mental than physical) between the hands of the missus in those vids, but he redressed the balance after a few weeks....

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    In other news, the 2020 Tour box includes excerpts from an upcoming Exposures box set.

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    Just wanted to share my chat with Jakko J from a few days ago, in case any of you missed it.

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