Gosh, the parallels with Galaxy Quest are uncanny.
Gosh, the parallels with Galaxy Quest are uncanny.
The Mighty Megalosaurus
Tree Pusher, WESAYSO Corp.
Why make music when you could be making money?
The Mighty Megalosaurus
Tree Pusher, WESAYSO Corp.
The Ice Cream Lady Wet her drawers........To see you in the Passion Playyyy eeee - I. Anderson
"It's kind of like deciding not to date a beautiful blonde anymore because she farted." - Top Cat
I was expecting to be kinda meh, but it made my nips stiffen - Jerjo
(Zamran) "that fucking thing man . . . it sits there on my wall like a broken clock " - Helix
Social Media is the "Toilet" of the Internet - Lady Gaga
I'm waiting for Chuck Negron Camp, so that I, too, can overuse my penis to the point that it ruptures.
Teaching, producing, etc I'd guess. My brother is a musician, but while he makes a living from his musical abilities and knowledge, he rarely performs and hasn't recorded anything for release.
Just curious - what's scheduled to go on at this event?
We await details, but there tend to be masterclasses and opportunities to work with the band. Steve Howe is also doing a separate camp in Aug and that's very focused on education: see http://crossstylesmusicretreat.com/activitiesschedule/ Musicians wanting to give back and teach, that seems entirely respectable to me. The Fantasy Camp series are similar, but emphasise more the jamming with your heroes angle, which can come across as more crass. Here's the Jeff Beck/Brian Wilson one before Yes's: http://rockcamp.com/jeff_beck.php
Henry
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You seem to misunderstand me. I'm not aware of ever claiming that capitalism has anything to do with grace and sophistication! I understand the economics behind these things. I'm not condoning or condemning them.
It's 3 days in a year: if the band spend the other 362 working on new music and playing great live, then I'm unbothered. Events like this can be done in better or worse ways. Which this will be, I don't know. Did any of you do the Crimson one last year? Or indeed see Anderson or White when they've done Fantasy Camp appearances before? What was it like?
Henry
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Haha. I knew there'd be remarks like that but actually... if I was a kid and I had $7,500 I'd be all over that one. Sounds like fun to me.
I got to play a one off gig with Jon Anderson once. We did "Long Distance Runaround". It was so much fun. Patrick Moraz was in the audience too. Rock n' Roll Fantasy! I got off easy. It only cost a couple grand probably all in. But that was lucky. If you can just BUY your luck for $7,500 and sit in with these guys or get a lesson (besides anything involving spandex) if you can afford it then you've got bucket list material (if you're a musician and a massive Yes fan that is).
Thanks for the info, Henry. I think it's great when a musician wants to teach. I think it's great when a musician will play with someone who is a fan of epic (or even not-so-epic) proportions. But for that fan to pay over six thousand dollars for the privilege - even with some meals, a bed, and a couple of pieces of merch thrown in? I can't for a second wrap my head around such a thing.
Most musicians who play for a living are not very effective teachers. And most people who go to these camps are not very accomplished players. These things tend to be about celebrity: if you've got the money, you can get close to a famous musician. It's an elaborate meet and greet. Again, there's nothing dishonest about this. The guitar camp Henry mentions is different. In those kinds of camps, experienced teachers really keep the teaching pedagogically effective, while the celebrity players bring in some pizazz and excitement. Often it takes a teacher to unpack the things a pro player says and make it useful. Celebrity camps, on the other hand, are about having fun with famous people, whether it's a rock camp or a sports camp. How much do you learn? Maybe some, maybe none. But that's not really the point.
The Mighty Megalosaurus
Tree Pusher, WESAYSO Corp.
Is this really any different from the "Dream Weeks" that professional sports teams offer fans?
Music isn't about chops, or even about talent - it's about sound and the way that sound communicates to people. Mike Keneally
I guess I'd rather have fun with less famous musicians whom I admire greatly, and still have money left over for two weeks on a tropical island. :-)
"If you've got the money, you can get close to a famous musician". There's something sort of nauseating about that statement. But apparently, it's true. You are just the messenger.
You'll leave Yes Camp with the confidence and skills necessary to abandon an ailing vocalist.
You all have some good points. I guess it all depends on how you look at it. No one is forcing anyone to go. But just the fact that it is something that's offered is great. Lucky people who can afford it. They should do some sort of contests for people to win it - like sponsored scholarships to kids that earn it and things like that. It is a little cost prohibitive unfortunately but... then again so are a lot of schools and camps. At least this one could have your favorite band. I really like Rock n Roll Fantasy Camp. Nothing to complain about imo... except the price if you wanted to go and couldn't afford it. That I do understand but that's life. The same can be said about certain concert tickets and other things.
why are we so exercised about this? because, in our own naive little minds, YES still employs the position of an outright antithesis to all this über-corporation. which, in brutally serious hindsight, obviously isn’t further from the truth. i am sure steve howe is overjoyed at the prospect of cruises and fantasy camps. it really is hard not to be cynical about it, because it really does feel like a long-term completion of squire’s pension plan. that said, a visible YES is better than no YES at all. would i go? no way. would i pick up a new album of original material? you bet.
Mr. Howe, can you teach me how to play "Owner of a Lonely Heart?"
Seriously, though, while this is fun to joke about, they're entitled to do whatever they want with their fame. Well, almost.
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