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    John Marshall RIP

    This needs a thread of its own. John Marshall was one of the key musicians of the British progressive jazz era which stretches from about 1963 to perhaps the mid to late 1970s. He was a co-founder of Nucleus, worked with John Surman, Graham Collier, Jack Bruce, Mike Gibbs, Mike Westbrook, Alexis Korner, Keith Tippett etc – and, from 1972, was the drummer for Soft Machine (and was touring with them as late as 2019, aged 78). He was also involved with the ECM label, recording predominantly with Eberhard Weber.

    In The Rough Guide to Jazz, Ian Carr (with whom Marshall co-founded Nucleus) wrote: “Marshall is a drummer of consummate ability, able to handle difficult asymmetrical time signatures as well as common time at any tempo, and he is at home with the whole gamut of contemporary styles: jazz, rock, ethnic, Indian, free improvisation, small group and big band. He is also a paradox: despite his intellect and wit, he is one of the most emotional drummers of all and can erupt in an explosion of gargantuan energy. But he is capable of great subtlety, too, and it is this wide range of ability which has led to the extraordinary variety of his working contexts.”
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    One of my all-time favourite drummers. He played on some of the albums I love the most (especially Soft Machine album Fifth comes to mind).
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    I wanted to take a moment to add to the outpouring of sadness surrounding the death of John Marshall.

    In addition to being a drummer of great merit and distinction, he was a very nice man and a great guy to work with!

    Cuneiform's first work with him was when I worked with him on the Nucleus "Live In Bremen" release, which also led to my working relationship with Ray Russell!

    He was my main connection to working with John Surman on 3 (soon to be four) historical projects, and we also worked together on a number of notable Soft Machine historical projects.

    He was a really great musician and his work lives on in *many* notable recordings and in the memories of everyone who knew him or saw him play. He was still playing the very top of his game when I last saw him 5 years ago in October, 2018 with Soft Machine.

    rest in peace, John. I'll miss you musically and personally.
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    John Marshall is among my favorite drummers of all time. Not only with Soft Machine/SML but also with Eberhard Weber & Colours. The precision, the attack, the power, the swing. He did whatever the music required and did it perfectly.

    I'll leave you with this video from the 2018 tour of the USA. Best new-millennial Soft Machine show I've ever heard. Marshall is 77 here. He may lack some of the power of the old days but the swing is magical.


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    ^^^^^^

    That guitar / drums duet bit at the 30’ mark is a great thing!

    I saw him with Colours in 1978 and they were fab!
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    “Remember, if it doesn't say "Cuneiform," it's not prog!” - THE Jed Levin

    Any time any one speaks to me about any musical project, the one absolute given is "it will not make big money". [tip of the hat to HK]

    "Death to false 'support the scene' prog!"

    please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.

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    I first heard him on Jack Bruce's Harmony Row. Got to interview him once by phone for a drum magazine and he was very nice. RIP.

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    Rest in peace.
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    John Marshall (1941-2023). A tribute by Theo Travis

    https://londonjazznews.com/2023/09/1...y-theo-travis/
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    Although I love just listening to Allan Holdsworth's solo in "Hazard Profile", there are times I love to just focus on John Marshall during that part of the song. Incredible drumming.
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    Was Marshall not the king of drum solos? I feel the most recorded drum solos I own studio and live are by John Marshall. Love his work with Nucleus and Soft Machine. Babbington has to be the bass player he played with the most.
    Babbington retired after Hidden Details only to guest one more time on Other Doors while Marshall sadly retired after Other Doors but he didn't get much of a retirement did he, but I bet he's okay with that playing drums into his early 80's is pretty crazy.
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    I have been listening to a couple of albums John Marshall recorded with John Surman, both excellent. ‘Morning Glory’ (recorded live in 1973) is the more rock-based of the two (with Terje Rypdal on guitar, John Taylor on piano, Chris Lawrence on bass and Malcolm Griffiths on trombone). ‘Way Back When’ (recorded in 1969 but released on Cuneiform in 2005) has Surman and Marshall playing alongside Brian Odgers on bass, Mike Osborne on alto and Taylor on piano. This album brings out some sublime playing from Marshall. He really was a fine drummer.

    It’s good news to hear there is another Surman release by Cuneiform on the cards. Together with ‘Way Back When’, the ‘Flashpoint’ and S.O.S. albums capture key moments in Surman’s long career. Another ‘historic’ recording will be most welcome.
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    A great loss.
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    ouch!! That one hurts.

    RIP

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    In good company:
    Artist: Volker Kriegel
    Composer: Volker Kriegel
    Bass: Eberhard Weber
    Drums: John Marshall
    Drums: Peter Baumeister
    Piano: John Taylor
    Flute: Cees See
    Saxophone: Alan Skidmore
    Saxophone: Heinz Sauer
    Trombone: Albert Mangelsdorff

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    John Marshall (1941-2023). A tribute by Theo Travis

    https://londonjazznews.com/2023/09/1...y-theo-travis/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    There seems to be no end to the excellent quality Soft Machine videos! This one was new to me so thank you for posting it. It highlights Marshall's great work very nicely.

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    I feel very lucky to have caught him live. RIP to a great player.
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    JM solo starting around 4:00 (at 4:40 he loses a drum stick and grabs a replacement)


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    I'm sorry to hear this.

    He was a technically -brilliant- drummer who would also sense a motion of nuance in detailed texture and expressive variation.

    He was a jazz drummer, of course. Not a rock one who also knew a bit of jazz. Still, he made the best of it in a rock context too.
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    One of my favorite drummers - - one who resides on a short list of musicians whose mere presence on an album makes it an autobuy.

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    So glad I was able to catch the latest incarnation of Soft Machine a few years back. John was a legend. RIP.
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