The 2023 NFL Discussion Thread

**Scott Bails** · 09-08-2023

Good morning, Steve! How ya feelin' today?

**Firth** · 09-08-2023

Originally Posted by Dave (in MA)

Congrats DET fans. They won despite the gaffe with 2:30 left.

Lions made up for that gaffe by successfully pounding their way to running the clock out, which was impressive given that KC must have been very motivated in from of the home crowd.

**Vic2012** · 09-08-2023

Forgot about the game. Caught a 6 minute high light video on my phone a couple minutes ago. Looks like I missed a pretty good game.

**SteveSly** · 09-08-2023

Originally Posted by Scott Bails

Good morning, Steve! How ya feelin' today?

Feeling great! I had no expectations for the Lions to win that game. I still think that people here in Michigan are putting the cart before the horse as making the playoffs would be a huge improvement, but this should be a fun season no matter what.

**Vic2012** · 09-08-2023

Originally Posted by SteveSly

Feeling great! I had no expectations for the Lions to win that game. I still think that people here in Michigan are putting the cart before the horse as making the playoffs would be a huge improvement, but this should be a fun season no matter what.

That game could have gone either way. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. But hey, you won that game in KC. I root for underdogs. Hope the Lions do well this season.

**3LockBox** · 09-09-2023

Originally Posted by SteveSly

Feeling great! I had no expectations for the Lions to win that game. I still think that people here in Michigan are putting the cart before the horse as making the playoffs would be a huge improvement, but this should be a fun season no matter what.

Better an actual victory than a moral victory.

It's not like either team played their A game, a sysmptom of starters sitting out the preseason. Goff got bailed out by the defense because he looked like shakey old Goff

**moecurlythanu** · 09-09-2023

^ I think Kansas City's "skill position" players got exposed. They rely so much on Kelce, and when he was taken out, they were left with a bunch of average wide receivers and running backs. Of course Mahomes is great, but the playmakers he had to work with were pretty ordinary.

**MudShark22** · 09-09-2023

Originally Posted by moecurlythanu

^ I think Kansas City's "skill position" players got exposed. They rely so much on Kelce, and when he was taken out, they were left with a bunch of average wide receivers and running backs. Of course Mahomes is great, but the playmakers he had to work with were pretty ordinary.

Yeah + looked like last years Rodgers! lol

**SteveSly** · 09-10-2023

Originally Posted by 3LockBox

Better an actual victory than a moral victory.

It's not like either team played their A game, a sysmptom of starters sitting out the preseason. Goff got bailed out by the defense because he looked like shakey old Goff

I like Goff ok as a QB, but overall it was a shakey game by both teams.

**SteveSly** · 09-10-2023

Originally Posted by moecurlythanu

^ I think Kansas City's "skill position" players got exposed. They rely so much on Kelce, and when he was taken out, they were left with a bunch of average wide receivers and running backs. Of course Mahomes is great, but the playmakers he had to work with were pretty ordinary.

I watched Skyy Moore play here in Kalamazoo for WMU and think he will eventually emerge as a key receiver for KC. He is still very young and gaining experience, but I predict he will be a prime target for Mahomes as the season goes on.

**3LockBox** · 09-10-2023

There's been a lot of critical talk on the TV and radio about why KC tackle Jawaan Taylor was allowed to line up in the backfield and allowed to kick start prior to the snap on almost every play. Many talking heads stating it was glaringly obvious that it should have been flagged as either a false start or illegal formation.

**MudShark22** · 09-10-2023

Originally Posted by 3LockBox

There's been a lot of critical talk on the TV and radio about why KC tackle Jawaan Taylor was allowed to line up in the backfield and allowed to kick start prior to the snap on almost every play. Many talking heads stating it was glaringly obvious that it should have been flagged as either a false start or illegal formation.

It was obvious and discussed in casa MudShark that night - it was even mentioned by Chris CryptKeeper a couple of times and was only finally called in Q4 a couple of times.

Blatant favouritism/non calls

**Shadow** · 09-10-2023

Originally Posted by 3LockBox

There's been a lot of critical talk on the TV and radio about why KC tackle Jawaan Taylor was allowed to line up in the backfield and allowed to kick start prior to the snap on almost every play. Many talking heads stating it was glaringly obvious that it should have been flagged as either a false start or illegal formation.

The NFL instructed the officials to do the same thing in the Ravens/Colts playoff game in January 2007. The Colts tackles lined up in the backfield just about every play and no flags. They wanted to give Manning an edge so he would get a super bowl ring. The Ravens tackle Ogden saw what they were doing and he tried doing it and they flagged him. The Ravens defense still kept them out of the end zone but they still got into position for five field goal and the victory. Manning's first ring is just like Brady's, it was obtained by the NFL cheating.

**headcrash** · 09-10-2023

What's ironic to me, as a Jaguars fan, is that Taylor has been doing this for four years without a peep, I guess because nobody outside Jacksonville pays attention to the Jags. Now, one game into his career with the Super Bowl champs, it's a big scandal.

**Firth** · 09-10-2023

Lamar has the “I’m throwing come hell or high water” again.

**moecurlythanu** · 09-10-2023

Browns defense is dominating, with an assist from a wet field.

DeShaun Watson is not sharp.

**Vic2012** · 09-10-2023

And we matched down the field like warriors....and we Turndaballova.

**3LockBox** · 09-10-2023

Originally Posted by MudShark22

It was obvious and discussed in casa MudShark that night - it was even mentioned by Chris CryptKeeper a couple of times and was only finally called in Q4 a couple of times.

Blatant favouritism/non calls

I remember Collinworth say he was lined up like a slot receiver.

**Shadow** · 09-10-2023

Ravens RB J.K. Dobbins tears Achilles, out for season.

Not again.

**Vic2012** · 09-10-2023

We got robbed of a touchback. Bullshit.

**Vic2012** · 09-10-2023

We're back in it. Hell yeah.

**Firth** · 09-10-2023

I went to a bar in Swansboro NC where apparently has become a Steeler haven. Overall they were friendly even though I said I was there to see the Ravens, and I got a seat at the bar as the only guy watching the one TV with the Ravens game. After the game, in the true spirit of fanmanship, Steeler fan says to me, “Nothing personal but I hope your QB gets his chicken legs snapped off”.😆 I just smiled.