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    Genesis - unearthed 8mm film snippets from Toronto March 31 1976

    Shame they aren't complete, but wow, I remain impressed as ever with what continues to surface as the years go on. This is from the fourth gig with Phil on vocals:

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    I was at the fifth gig in Ottawa. Thanks for posting!
    What can this strange device be? When I touch it, it brings forth a sound.

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    I distinctly remember them playing Supper's Ready with the inflatable tubes. I was so distracted that when I got up my leg got stuck between the chairs. - Pretty decent first concert!!
    What can this strange device be? When I touch it, it brings forth a sound.

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    Too cool!
    Great syncing job, too!!

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    Nice find.. Bruford appears to be enjoying himself during this show.

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    Great find, thanks.

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    These newly scanned versions of classic Genesis are super. Any film properly scanned with the latest 4K scanner looks better than video from the period. Especially on stage shoots of the Gabriel years.

    The difference between the Collins filming and the Gabriel, is that Gabriel shootings had better lighting for film. In the Collins case, newer focused lighting makes for a more challenging filming.
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    Wonderful. In the comments, someone mentions the existence of pro footage from Rio 1977...

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    I was at this show...I think it was in the Concert Bowl
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    Yeah I watched this last night on another forum. Some really nice close-ups in here after the first few minutes- very clear for 8mm.

    I always had the sense that the Canadian audience was very favourable to Genesis, and that was why they launched this line-up there.

    Quote Originally Posted by mozo-pg View Post
    I distinctly remember them playing Supper's Ready with the inflatable tubes.
    I wondered what that was!

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    Great find! I didn't realize Steve still sat for part of these shows. And that the bass on Mike's double-neck was a 6-string.
    I'm holding out for the Wilson-mixed 5.1 super-duper walletbuster special anniversary extra adjectives edition.

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    I'm sure I'm not the only person who's noticed that Rutherford is playing the Dick Knight built Rickenbacker/Micro-Frets doubleneck that he used on the Lamb tour. I guess this must be before the sunburst doubleneck that we see in Genesis In Concert arrived.

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    I was at this concert, as well as the 2nd show of the tour in Waterloo, sitting on the floor of a university gym, Mar 27
    I remember tomorrow

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    Phil was only 24-25 then . Amazing.

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    The nerve of that Broof to pay with a Bruins shirt in Maple Leafs territory

    Quote Originally Posted by Firth View Post
    These newly scanned versions of classic Genesis are super. Any film properly scanned with the latest 4K scanner looks better than video from the period. Especially on stage shoots of the Gabriel years.

    The difference between the Collins filming and the Gabriel, is that Gabriel shootings had better lighting for film. In the Collins case, newer focused lighting makes for a more challenging filming.
    Either there was more than one filmer or the guy (who probably had his seat on the right - in front of Banks' KB) was extremely mobile in the crowd

    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post
    I always had the sense that the Canadian audience was very favourable to Genesis, and that was why they launched this line-up there.

    Quote Originally Posted by mozo-pg View Post
    I distinctly remember them playing Supper's Ready with the inflatable tubes.
    I wondered what that was!
    I used to see similar prop stuff in front of gas station at the time

    Quote Originally Posted by Ten Thumbs View Post
    I was at this concert, as well as the 2nd show of the tour in Waterloo, sitting on the floor of a university gym, Mar 27
    I missed that tour, coz I was broke then, as I'd just bought my Yamaha hi-fi chain.
    my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post


    I missed that tour, coz I was broke then, as I'd just bought my Yamaha hi-fi chain.
    BURNED!
    What can this strange device be? When I touch it, it brings forth a sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    The nerve of that Broof to pay with a Bruins shirt in Maple Leafs territory
    I shared a video of Procol Harum from 1976 on FB once and my friend mentioned that members of their band were performing wearing hockey jerseys just as Genesis did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulrus View Post
    Great find! I didn't realize Steve still sat for part of these shows. And that the bass on Mike's double-neck was a 6-string.
    He used a Micro-Frets 6 string bass on The Lamb, and then had it and a Rickenbacker 12 string built into a doubleneck for the subsequent tour. That's the instrument you're seeing him play here. He had another doubleneck, with a sunburst finish, that he used later in the tour, the one that you see in the Genesis In Concert film, that also had a 6 string bass.

    I remember someone who played in a Genesis tribute band telling me that the thing about the 6 string was, there were a lot parts in certain songs where Rutherford would make big register jumps, and the only way you could play them on a regular four string bass was change your hand position, like maybe going from playing in near the nut, then sliding up to the 9th-12th fret region, then back down again. And he found with the 6 string, instead of climbing up to a higher fret, he could just move over to the B and high E strings, or the G and B strings, something like that, but keeping his left hand at the lower neck position (which is, probably, how Rutherford actually played that stuff).

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    I don't believe Supper's Ready was part of the set list for the first couple of shows - was this the first time it was in the set, or was it done the night before? --Peter

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    ^There was speculation on YouTube that this was indeed the first time he sang it live.

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    Damn, those young men could play!
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    Fantastic!

    Hard to believe that guy tearing it up on the bass thinks these concerts pale in comparison to the Wembley We Canít Dance concerts. Absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yesstiles View Post
    Hard to believe that guy tearing it up on the bass thinks these concerts pale in comparison to the Wembley We Can’t Dance concerts. Absurd.
    Fairly common for musicians to think they played better over age 40 than in their 20's, even if many fans would disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pb2015 View Post
    Fairly common for musicians to think they played better over age 40 than in their 20's, even if many fans would disagree.
    That’s common in any career, not just music. Who likes to think they peaked in their 20s, then never got better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FirthOf5th View Post
    That’s common in any career, not just music. Who likes to think they peaked in their 20s, then never got better?
    Exactly.
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