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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    First single from Albert's new one:

    Nice. I like this version better than the original. And Albert's vocals are pretty decent here.
    It seems that Buck, Eric Bloom and Richie Castellano guest on the album.

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    I dig it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interstellar View Post
    Nice. I like this version better than the original. And Albert's vocals are pretty decent here.
    It seems that Buck, Eric Bloom and Richie Castellano guest on the album.
    It is nice to see that fences have been mended over the years and these guys are willing to work with each other again.

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    Buck shows you how to play "Cities on Flame"!


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    When I was doing an MFA in Alaska in my twenties I would come home from the bar and pass out to a playlist of Red Rider, Kate Bush and the first five BOC albums... my roommates hated it but it would give me some very interesting dreams. Can't think of much that's as woven into my soul as BOC.

    I think the trick to liking Imaginos is to come into it expecting to hate it. I had several people tell me it was unlistenable and it's... more like the world's weirdest Judas Priest album and if you approach it on those terms it's quite likeable. Great for road trips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBES View Post
    I think the trick to liking Imaginos is to come into it expecting to hate it. I had several people tell me it was unlistenable
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBES View Post
    When I was doing an MFA in Alaska in my twenties I would come home from the bar and pass out to a playlist of Red Rider, Kate Bush and the first five BOC albums... my roommates hated it but it would give me some very interesting dreams. Can't think of much that's as woven into my soul as BOC.

    I think the trick to liking Imaginos is to come into it expecting to hate it. I had several people tell me it was unlistenable and it's... more like the world's weirdest Judas Priest album and if you approach it on those terms it's quite likeable. Great for road trips.
    As I have probably said many times here before, it is not that "Imaginos" is a band album, it is just that it could have been so much better. I like it for what it is.

    What do you think of the Albert Bouchard re-boot of the album?

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    I don't know what on earth could be so unlistenable about Imaginos. It doesn't really sound like any other BOC album, but then I think you can say that about a few BOC albums. And like those albums it still has some tunes that have that moody/creepy/macabre/mysterious vibe that threads its way through many a BOC tune.
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    I hadn't listened to Imaginos until about a month ago, and I've come to like it. I happened to listen to the re-boot this morning, and I prefer the original.
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    They are playing in my area so I'm thinking of maybe going to see them. Not sure yet. It would be my first time seeing them if I do go.
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    Haven't heard it actually. I read some reviews and they seemed uniformly lukewarm. Is it good? I'll have to check it out.

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    I had a chance to see them, then watched a bit of recent live footage and was dissuaded. The sense of menace & mystery doesn't come across at all live; it seemed much too smiley rock 'n' roll show. They always had that side I guess but it seemed like maybe the time to see them is past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBES View Post
    Haven't heard it actually. I read some reviews and they seemed uniformly lukewarm. Is it good? I'll have to check it out.
    Personally I really like Imaginos and I think it's a pretty strong album. <shrug>
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBES View Post
    I had a chance to see them, then watched a bit of recent live footage and was dissuaded. The sense of menace & mystery doesn't come across at all live; it seemed much too smiley rock 'n' roll show. They always had that side I guess but it seemed like maybe the time to see them is past.
    Did the sense of menace & mystery ever come across in their shows? I saw them twice (41 years apart) and never saw more than a bunch of really good rockers with smart lyrics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBES View Post
    I had a chance to see them, then watched a bit of recent live footage and was dissuaded. The sense of menace & mystery doesn't come across at all live; it seemed much too smiley rock 'n' roll show. They always had that side I guess but it seemed like maybe the time to see them is past.
    I have seen B.O.C. more than 20 times over the years and get what you mean. The bottom line is, the guys are just getting old. B.O.C. no longer tour with their own production, so they use individual venue lighting, P.A. etc. so there is no longer any "show" to go along with their music. Considering they were at one time pioneers in the use of lasers, lighting, and general special effects, today’s shows are certainly a different experience. When Eric was young I would agree that he had a menacing stage presence and you just had the feeling that this dude was a bad ass. Let’s face it, today Eric looks like the 76-year-old man that he is. His voice is still ok, but it has lost much of it’s power.

    All that being said, I still love B.O.C. and see them anytime they are in my area. Buck is one of the most underrated guitarists in rock n roll and has just gotten better over the years. Richie Castellano is an exceptionally talented musician and has become the band’s secret weapon over the last few decades. They still put on a good show and I would recommend going to see them, even though they are not the young bucks they at one time were.

    Other bands from their era that play similar venues like Styx, Kansas, REO, tour with their own productions and I am of the opinion the B.O.C. could benefit from doing the same, but they choose not to for whatever reason (probably money).

    Just my opinion of course…….

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    All that being said, I still love B.O.C. and see them anytime they are in my area. Buck is one of the most underrated guitarists in rock n roll and has just gotten better over the years. Richie Castellano is an exceptionally talented musician and has become the band’s secret weapon over the last few decades. They still put on a good show and I would recommend going to see them, even though they are not the young bucks they at one time were.
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    The only time I saw BOC was at the beginning of their Agents of Fortune tour. There was a sense of menace from Bloom and company. I remember Buck stepping into the spotlight for his solos, all in white. Trouble was, we were there for the warmup act, a little trio from across the border. It seemed to us that BOC was a little more static onstage than the Canucks and not nearly as heavy. In retrospect, I wish I could have seen BOC again but they never came back our way. I did go on to see the Canadian act many many more times.
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    I prefer the bastardized BOC Imaginos as opposed to Albert's vision. Better production and vocals. I just reordered the tracks the way they're supposed to be and begin the playlist with the Stephen King intro.
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    Another new track from "Imaginos II Bombs Over Germany" from Albert:


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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    I have seen B.O.C. more than 20 times over the years and get what you mean. The bottom line is, the guys are just getting old. B.O.C. no longer tour with their own production, so they use individual venue lighting, P.A. etc. so there is no longer any "show" to go along with their music. Considering they were at one time pioneers in the use of lasers, lighting, and general special effects, today’s shows are certainly a different experience. When Eric was young I would agree that he had a menacing stage presence and you just had the feeling that this dude was a bad ass. Let’s face it, today Eric looks like the 76-year-old man that he is. His voice is still ok, but it has lost much of it’s power.

    All that being said, I still love B.O.C. and see them anytime they are in my area. Buck is one of the most underrated guitarists in rock n roll and has just gotten better over the years. Richie Castellano is an exceptionally talented musician and has become the band’s secret weapon over the last few decades. They still put on a good show and I would recommend going to see them, even though they are not the young bucks they at one time were.

    Other bands from their era that play similar venues like Styx, Kansas, REO, tour with their own productions and I am of the opinion the B.O.C. could benefit from doing the same, but they choose not to for whatever reason (probably money).

    Just my opinion of course…….
    I've seen BOC numerous times since the first time, in 74. They're always wonderful. We're lucky Buck and Eric are still doing it. Eric's voice is clearly not
    the same, but unsurprising. Buck hasn't lost a thing. I would say he's not underrated. Most everyone knows how amazing he is. The new album is great, save
    for Stand and Fight, IMO. I never enjoyed the original Imaginos album. Long live BOC!!!!

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    I caught Blue Oyster Cult on Saturday night at the Keswick Theater. It was a great show, far better than the one I saw two years ago at the Valley Forge Casino.

    They played 5 tracks from the new album, which surprised me, but they all sounded good - That Was Me, Box in My Head, Train True, Tainted Blood, and The Alchemist. For the last one, Eric Bloom came out in hood and robes and "read" from his book, like in the video. It's a great track, and sounded even better live. Richie sang Tainted Blood and Hot Rails to Hell.

    I've seen them do the extended Last Days of May a number of times, but it never gets old. Richie and Buck's solos were great - Richie may have even been more impressive than Buck. He does well in the Allen Lanier role.

    This band has always been a guilty pleasure of mine, first saw them live in 1981. I've seen them in stadiums, arenas, small theaters, and biker bars. I'll always go see them when they come around.

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    ^Heh, I was going to go to that show but ultimately didn't pull the trigger. It sounds like you had fun. I did play secret treaties for the first time recently and while it didn't quite live up to the hype it was a very enjoyable listen nonetheless. I'll probably never understand why they get categorized as heavy metal though. That's a real head scratcher for me. Hard rock sure but metal? Other than the subject matter I really don't hear it. Very good band though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Man View Post
    ^Heh, I was going to go to that show but ultimately didn't pull the trigger. It sounds like you had fun. I did play secret treaties for the first time recently and while it didn't quite live up to the hype it was a very enjoyable listen nonetheless. I'll probably never understand why they get categorized as heavy metal though. That's a real head scratcher for me. Hard rock sure but metal? Other than the subject matter I really don't hear it. Very good band though.
    I agree they fall into the hard rock category and not heavy metal. Way too melodic to be heavy metal. Then again, Jethro Tull won a Grammy for Best Heavy Metal Album
    or whatever the exact category was. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapidfirerob View Post
    I agree they fall into the hard rock category and not heavy metal. Way too melodic to be heavy metal. Then again, Jethro Tull won a Grammy for Best Heavy Metal Album
    or whatever the exact category was. LOL
    In 1988/89 JT won for best hard rock/ heavy metal. After that debacle they made it so hard rock and heavy metal were separate categories. But yeah, I don't see BOC as being any heavier than Jethro Tull, Rush or Kansas and none of those are heavy metal either. Even Queen are heavier and they aren't even usually considered pure heavy metal either. I don't think melody has much to do with it though because imo Iron Maiden are very melodic and they are pure heavy metal. I admit HM has a reputation for not being very melodic much of the time though.
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    I hate the Keswick as the seating is so terrible. But that was the closest to Baltimore they were coming (without going to fairgrounds!)
    Missed them last time around so wasn't going to miss them again. Roughly 30th time seeing them since 1979.
    Show was great overall. Vocal harmonies were not so good this time on a lot of songs (Golden Age....etc)
    Last Days of May and Bucks Boogie were absolutely on fire. Loved the older cuts they did. New stuff sounded great, but can't get into the damn Train song. The Alchemist was outstanding and I'm so happy they played that.
    Eric seemed much more energetic than last time i saw them (3-4yrs ago?)
    Richie is a monster. Kills me when someone is that good on more than 1 instrument. And sing great. He adds what BOC has always needed live. Someone that can dual with Buck beautifully. He re-energized the band when he came in. Didn't dig the new shaved head though!
    Jules was also killing it. He never stood out so much to me as he did at this show. Blistering!
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